For a woman, is there such a thing as too much lube?

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Nothing creepy about it. It's designed to describe exactly what being me and being with me would be like. At least I know there's something I can do that has a direct emotional effect upon someone else.
 

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Nothing creepy about it. It's designed to describe exactly what being me and being with me would be like. At least I know there's something I can do that has a direct emotional effect upon someone else.

And...? Any response to the clenching/wetting cycle? Focus, woman, focus!

Yes, you do write like a mutherfucker while sitting on a washing machine set to super warp 12 vibrate.

Mutherfucker? Can you describe a woman as a mutherfucker? How about a banshee?

Yeah, uhm, you write like a banshee sitting on a Sybian on high and a Hitachi Magic Wand on your clit on super high. In other words, gawd, I envy how you write and how your mind works.
 

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I hate it when there's too much lube. In fact, I prefer not to use it at all. I make enough of my own.


100% agree with you hun! I naturally get very wet... and plus nothing's wrong with a little friction.. i actually like it.. lol
 

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The entrance soreness is similar, but add to that the stubbles if it's been more than 3 weeks since my last waxing.

With my liking for pain, that sounds rather appealing . . .


Unfortunately?

Unfortunately because I'm just not a fan of lube. Horrible, slimy stuff, plus it makes me mildly irritated afterwards.


So there is such a thing as too much lube for girthy guys? Is sensation lost?

There's always a such thing as too much lube. I like a bit of friction.


Is one of them cut and the other uncut?

One is definitely cut, but would you believe I've never noticed one way or the other with the other guy? My instincts say he is, but I'm just not sure.


Is one much longer than the other?

One is about an inch longer than the other.


I wonder if your vaginal canal gets narrower with a longer dick, or if you tend to relax more with the longer guy out of necessity.

Relaxing more out of necessity could be a factor. But I think it's psychological more than anything. Hearing his voice is enough to make me wet and ready to fuck in an instant. With the slightly smaller guy I'm much less aroused, so I think my muscles just don't get as loose. But I don't have the patience to spend a lot of time on foreplay, so I fuck quickly and pay the price later :redface:.


It's always a pleasure anytime I can put anything in you.

Don't give me too many ideas or I'll be booking a holiday . . .


But the soreness is so wonderful... Like crying during a war-buddy movie or a chick flick. Like a high school crush on a person who has no idea you're anything but another human being he or she barely recognizes. It's workout pain. And it also carries the most transporting aftershocks and most visceral, bloodborne memories of ecstasy...

I get hot and cold sweats and I CLENCH!!! just thinking about it :biggrin:


Your descriptions are wonderful! That's exactly how I feel about the soreness. Wincing every time I move just reminds me of everything that led to it and makes me want to do it all over again.
 

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With my liking for pain, that sounds rather appealing . . .

See, that's cheating though. It's like trying to fist you or with my cock, trying to do anal. It's easy to inflict pain due to the size mismatch, but stubbles?

My initial motivation for waxing was that my wife's inner labias would get dragged in more often due to the hair on my shaft. Feel free to say "Eww" out loud by the way. Not sure about seeing that as pleasurable though. Now having raw spots from the friction of countless hours beating your cunt with my cock, *THAT'S* what I'm talking about.

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Unfortunately because I'm just not a fan of lube. Horrible, slimy stuff, plus it makes me mildly irritated afterwards.

Ahh, I get it. Hot tub sex is something of a best-of-both worlds sex then. Lube can be a problem, but if you produce a copious amount yourself, what isn't necessary gets washed away immediately.

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There's always a such thing as too much lube. I like a bit of friction.

I'll take your word for it. You've had larger than I am, so doubtlessly you've had the experience to back your claim.

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One is definitely cut, but would you believe I've never noticed one way or the other with the other guy? My instincts say he is, but I'm just not sure.

I have the link somewhere in my favorites, but the foreskin could act as a frictional barrier with pentrative sex. In other words the reason you may not be sore with the uncut guy could be because he's sliding in and out of his foreskin as he's fucking you.

Maybe?

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One is about an inch longer than the other.

I need a scorecard with 2 columns and the different properties for each guy in the individual columns now. I'm game to dissect this further if you want to, but may be TMI for you. (I get off on this shit, I really do)

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Relaxing more out of necessity could be a factor. But I think it's psychological more than anything. Hearing his voice is enough to make me wet and ready to fuck in an instant. With the slightly smaller guy I'm much less aroused, so I think my muscles just don't get as loose. But I don't have the patience to spend a lot of time on foreplay, so I fuck quickly and pay the price later :redface:.

You've probably hit the nail on the head with that. Case solved.

Now, regarding the foreplay bit, you sound like how my ex explained it to me as well. When we'd finally get down to me pentrating her, she'd almost violently shove me into her. She'd grimace, then sigh. Knowing what I know now, I would've done things differently. But then again, if I did, I wouldn't end up where I am now.

So, ignorance was bliss back then.

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Don't give me too many ideas or I'll be booking a holiday . . .

Up that 1% to 50% gay then MrsR may go halvsies with you. But then again, we're back to the whole sharing thing I have to work on. :confused:
 

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See, that's cheating though. It's like trying to fist you or with my cock, trying to do anal. It's easy to inflict pain due to the size mismatch, but stubbles?

Hey, if it works, it works :biggrin1:


My initial motivation for waxing was that my wife's inner labias would get dragged in more often due to the hair on my shaft. Feel free to say "Eww" out loud by the way.

No ewww, but definitely an uncomfortable kind of oww. How did the hair make the situation worse though (I think I'm missing something)?


Not sure about seeing that as pleasurable though. Now having raw spots from the friction of countless hours beating your cunt with my cock, *THAT'S* what I'm talking about.

:biggrin1: One of the best kind of post-sex oww's.


Ahh, I get it. Hot tub sex is something of a best-of-both worlds sex then. Lube can be a problem, but if you produce a copious amount yourself, what isn't necessary gets washed away immediately.

But you can't pound me hard enough in the water . . .


I'll take your word for it. You've had larger than I am, so doubtlessly you've had the experience to back your claim.

:biggrin1:


I have the link somewhere in my favorites, but the foreskin could act as a frictional barrier with pentrative sex. In other words the reason you may not be sore with the uncut guy could be because he's sliding in and out of his foreskin as he's fucking you.

Maybe?

I need a scorecard with 2 columns and the different properties for each guy in the individual columns now. I'm game to dissect this further if you want to, but may be TMI for you. (I get off on this shit, I really do)

Not TMI for me, but maybe for others? I'll answer these in the next PM I send you.


You've probably hit the nail on the head with that. Case solved.

Hmmm . . . maybe not. I'm sure we can get a bit more discussion out of it. :tongue:


Now, regarding the foreplay bit, you sound like how my ex explained it to me as well. When we'd finally get down to me pentrating her, she'd almost violently shove me into her. She'd grimace, then sigh.

That's me :redface:. As long as the sigh was a good one anyway. To me it feels like I'm finally home. I just want to get there so bad I can't wait :redface:


Knowing what I know now, I would've done things differently. But then again, if I did, I wouldn't end up where I am now.

So, ignorance was bliss back then.

What would you have done differently? (Lucky you didn't though or you wouldn't have got MrsR).


Up that 1% to 50% gay then MrsR may go halvsies with you. But then again, we're back to the whole sharing thing I have to work on. :confused:

You work on the sharing and I'll work on my percentages. :smile:
 

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No ewww, but definitely an uncomfortable kind of oww. How did the hair make the situation worse though (I think I'm missing something)?

The bottom 2" of my cock has a few hairs, not a lot, like a full bush, but a few stragglers. At full pubic hair length they act like little tendrils and drag her inner labia in with my cock on the in-stroke. Pre-PE, it was never a problem, but the additional length dragged the skin that was on my pelvis up to what is now my shaft.

If I ever get to put pictures up, it'll be pretty obvious where the "old" me was and the "new" me is.

:biggrin1: One of the best kind of post-sex oww's.

Absolutely. Feels nice when my skin feels chaffed the next day too (doesn't happen anymore since we've found silicone lube)

But you can't pound me hard enough in the water . . .

I like the variety. My wife gets to effortlessly grind on me and our "inside time" ends up being 2 cycles (40 minutes) then we go in, dry off and proceed to the truely hard pounding.

Not TMI for me, but maybe for others? I'll answer these in the next PM I send you.

Looking forward to it.

That's me :redface:. As long as the sigh was a good one anyway. To me it feels like I'm finally home. I just want to get there so bad I can't wait :redface:

You young 'uns just have nooo patience. Not that it's a bad thing, but I just have an appreciation for the build up. Everything down there just gets nice and congested.

What would you have done differently? (Lucky you didn't though or you wouldn't have got MrsR).

A lot more backstop grinding (she hated when I shoved in deep, never had the wherewithall to push and hold). a lot of full shaft strokes to take advantage of my baseball bat shape.

A lot more use of the handcuffs and floggers.

That's just for starters.

You work on the sharing and I'll work on my percentages. :smile:

Good lord, we got projects or what? We still have to work on the anal and oral thing too.
 

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The bottom 2" of my cock has a few hairs, not a lot, like a full bush, but a few stragglers. At full pubic hair length they act like little tendrils and drag her inner labia in with my cock on the in-stroke. Pre-PE, it was never a problem, but the additional length dragged the skin that was on my pelvis up to what is now my shaft.

Hmmm, interesting. I've never noticed a similar problem myself. Well, not a hair related one. Sometimes I do notice a bit of tugging with bigger guys, but a quick adjustment and all is fixed. Then they can go even deeper :biggrin1:


If I ever get to put pictures up, it'll be pretty obvious where the "old" me was and the "new" me is.
Would you believe that I'd like to see them just because I'm curious? Truly! I'm just interested to see how much you gained.


I like the variety. My wife gets to effortlessly grind on me and our "inside time" ends up being 2 cycles (40 minutes) then we go in, dry off and proceed to the truely hard pounding.
The more gentle stuff feels good to me, but it's damn frustrating!


You young 'uns just have nooo patience. Not that it's a bad thing, but I just have an appreciation for the build up. Everything down there just gets nice and congested.
That's me - no patience at all! But it does turn me on immensely if he makes me wait.


A lot more backstop grinding (she hated when I shoved in deep, never had the wherewithall to push and hold). a lot of full shaft strokes to take advantage of my baseball bat shape.

A lot more use of the handcuffs and floggers.

That's just for starters.
Mmmmm . . . *squirm*

Good start :tongue:


Good lord, we got projects or what? We still have to work on the anal and oral thing too.

True . . . I can handle oral for longer if I'm tied down. Does that help?
 
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Used to use lube all the time with my ex but my current wife prefers me without. The STD clinic where i get my regular checkups says you should always use lube with condoms, and we tend to use lube when we're swinging. The girls usually make it a fun part of the sex ritual, the last bit of foreplay is them putting on the condom then lubing 'their' cock.
 

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Hmmm, interesting. I've never noticed a similar problem myself. Well, not a hair related one. Sometimes I do notice a bit of tugging with bigger guys, but a quick adjustment and all is fixed. Then they can go even deeper :biggrin1:

That's exactly it. On initital penetration, even with a lotta lube, the inner labia still gets dragged in. When I'm finally balls deep, she pops her labia out and we're good until my cock fully extracts from her. (Only the big guys? <--- Can anyone else verify this?) When I had a full bush of hair down there, the shaft hair did that constantly.

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Would you believe that I'd like to see them just because I'm curious? Truly! I'm just interested to see how much you gained.

I will let my wife know you requested it for that purpose. The more women that make the request, the better the chances it'll happen. Anyone else care to make that request?

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The more gentle stuff feels good to me, but it's damn frustrating!

It's supposed to be!!

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True . . . I can handle oral for longer if I'm tied down. Does that help?

You bitch! That visual helped a LOT!
 

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The only time there has been too much lubrication IMO was when enthusiastic pounding caused the pounder to slip completely out and start stabbing me in the buttocks instead, and he didn't even notice. This also happened with a female and a strap-on, but that time it was me who didn't notice! Both times it was a bother, and we had to wipe up, put down towels, and other mood-breaking activities.
 

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The only time there has been too much lubrication IMO was when enthusiastic pounding caused the pounder to slip completely out and start stabbing me in the buttocks instead, and he didn't even notice.

Akk!! A friend "fractured" his penis that way!!! Full on pounding, slipped out, banged her butt cheek and ... CRACK! He's rolling on the floor in agony and she turns to him and says, "You know I'm not done yet, right?"

They drove him to the ER that night.
 

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subgirrl --

By "oral" do you mean fellatio or cunnilingus? 'Cause if it's the first, I need a description of how you do that safely while tied down, but if it's the second, hooooooly moly, have I got a new Forced Orgasm fantasy...
 

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subgirrl --

By "oral" do you mean fellatio or cunnilingus? 'Cause if it's the first, I need a description of how you do that safely while tied down, but if it's the second, hooooooly moly, have I got a new Forced Orgasm fantasy...

One of my favorite memories.... *Sigh*.....The orgasms are magnified, accentuated, intensified, heightened...

Where's my honey? Time to make a new memory...:smile2:
 

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subgirrl --

By "oral" do you mean fellatio or cunnilingus? 'Cause if it's the first, I need a description of how you do that safely while tied down, but if it's the second, hooooooly moly, have I got a new Forced Orgasm fantasy...

I have a fantasy of being tied down and blindfolded during forced oral orgasms one after another, but TheBF ususally just holds me down by the wrists when I want to push him away, which I like. Oh, I like it. :smile:

I'm really not difficult to restrain because of my size. I think part of the fantasy about being tied down and blindfolded is the anticipation and thrill of not knowing what he's going to do next, which would make it a different experience from just being held down when I don't think I can take it any more and I feel like pushing him away from me.
 

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That's exactly it. On initital penetration, even with a lotta lube, the inner labia still gets dragged in. When I'm finally balls deep, she pops her labia out and we're good until my cock fully extracts from her. (Only the big guys? <--- Can anyone else verify this?) When I had a full bush of hair down there, the shaft hair did that constantly.

You know, I've never had sex with a de-haired guy, so that COULD be why it happens with me as well. I just can't get my head around WHY it would happen. I just can't visualise how hair can have that effect.

And yes, only the big guys. Which makes sense to me, but I can't grasp the thoughts as to why clearly enough to put into words.


It's supposed to be!!

It is??? And here I was thinking that people did it because they actually ENJOYED it :tongue:


You bitch! That visual helped a LOT!

:biggrin1: Good to see I'm effective when I manage to get things into words :tongue:



Noted, and forwarded to MrsR! Anyone else?

Do I get to vote twice? :biggrin1:


subgirrl --

By "oral" do you mean fellatio or cunnilingus? 'Cause if it's the first, I need a description of how you do that safely while tied down, but if it's the second, hooooooly moly, have I got a new Forced Orgasm fantasy...

Oh, the second! While I DO orgasm when he goes down on me, it's all too soft and gentle for me to really enjoy it. I like to hurry up and move on to the harder stuff. But when I'm tied down I'm sort of forced to put up with the gentle sensations and have more slow and gentle and FRUSTRATING orgasms . . . In a way it works almost as orgasm denial for me, because I don't get the intense orgasms I do from more forceful stimulation.


One of my favorite memories.... *Sigh*.....The orgasms are magnified, accentuated, intensified, heightened...

Where's my honey? Time to make a new memory...:smile2:

But later orgasms end up like this, so I guess I appreciate it . . . in a way . . .