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jeff black said:
Exactly... and that is your opinion, buddy. but not everyone shares that opinion. I have never seen this Scar tissue that you speak off... and i notice that my dick rolls down and looks exactly the same as cut dicks.. so I didn't understand what it was.
Like i said,.. we all have our own opinions.:biggrin1:

Thanks for the info on restoration btw. I was under the impression it would hurt.

It is my opinion and one shared by the majority of the world.

Every cut dick is going to have scar tissue. Gomco clamps scar a lot more than freestyle surgery although freestyle cutting and especially Mohel performed circumcisions are much more likely to go bad. There have been a number of cases where babies have lost their entire dicks, had ALL the shaft skin removed, had the glans cut off, etc. The lack of sterile surroundings when Mohels perform circs is extremely scary. A number of baby boys have caught Hepatatis B from Mohel circs. Most of those are orthodox so keep the tradition of where the Mohel sucks up the blood after the circ. Pretty sick if you ask me.....

Some people scar more easily than others so your scar may not be as visible as other guys'. Darker skinned guys are much more llikely to have a "two-toned" dick as the inner foreskin is generally lighter than the shaft skin.
 

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chico8 said:
It is my opinion and one shared by the majority of the world.

Every cut dick is going to have scar tissue. Gomco clamps scar a lot more than freestyle surgery although freestyle cutting and especially Mohel performed circumcisions are much more likely to go bad. There have been a number of cases where babies have lost their entire dicks, had ALL the shaft skin removed, had the glans cut off, etc. The lack of sterile surroundings when Mohels perform circs is extremely scary. A number of baby boys have caught Hepatatis B from Mohel circs. Most of those are orthodox so keep the tradition of where the Mohel sucks up the blood after the circ. Pretty sick if you ask me.....

Some people scar more easily than others so your scar may not be as visible as other guys'. Darker skinned guys are much more llikely to have a "two-toned" dick as the inner foreskin is generally lighter than the shaft skin.

Just so you know, I am not circumsized. So, I don't see these scars you speak of... if by chance, i find myself in a situation that allows me to inspect a penis up close, I may see them...:tongue:
 

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jeff black said:
Just so you know, I am not circumsized. So, I don't see these scars you speak of... if by chance, i find myself in a situation that allows me to inspect a penis up close, I may see them...:tongue:

I was wondering what you were trying to say... You're lucky living in Canada where circ is currently almost only performed for religious reasons. Thank your lucky stars:biggrin1:
 

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chico8 said:
I was wondering what you were trying to say... You're lucky living in Canada where circ is currently almost only performed for religious reasons. Thank your lucky stars:biggrin1:

Well, when I was born...82.... my parents had a choice. They chose to leave it natural.

Alot of my classmates were cut, and quite a few of my university friends...
 

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jeff black said:
i notice that my dick rolls down and looks exactly the same as cut dicks.

That's right, you get to have it both ways. So why would anyone want to have half or more of the skin on their penis amputated?

The penis depends on skin for sensation and good blood flow for function. Again, how could amputation possibly improve on this?

One of the things that strikes me is how much redder and more vascular the natural penis is.

Can someone please name another appendage that is improved by partial amputation?
 

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dxjnorto said:
That's right, you get to have it both ways. So why would anyone want to have half or more of the skin on their penis amputated?

The penis depends on skin for sensation and good blood flow for function. Again, how could amputation possibly improve on this?

One of the things that strikes me is how much redder and more vascular the natural penis is.

Can someone please name another appendage that is improved by partial amputation?

Well, if you would like me to respond.

There have been a few threads discussing this. Some (my cousin included) get their foreskin removed because the skin becomes too tight, and causes the penis to experience painful erections.

There is also the concern with hygene... if the foreskin is to tight, as it can get.. it is hard to slide it up and down to clean. A clean penis is very important, as we men all know:biggrin1:
 

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chico8 said:
Here's what you said:



Obviously you have big issues with foreskin restoration and the foreskin in general. That's fine, a lot of cut guys out there react negatively to foreskins. I think a lot of it has to do with denial. If it gets hard, shoots sperm, and makes me feel good, what's wrong with it? that is the reaction I get from anyone whenever I bring the subject up.

What is it about the circumcised penis that appeals to you? The scar tissue, the keratinized glans, the missing scent, the shrunkenness? I've asked a lot of people the same question and few have given an answer out side of "It just looks better."

Do you think that people look better with their ears docked, noses and lips modified....

I really do want to understand why you think the cut penis looks better.
All of that was just a response to your posts probing and demanding an explanation to my much more modestly stated opinion earlier in the thread. I wouldn't have gone into so much detail about my aesthetic preferences if not prompted by you.

I don't know how you want me to explain why I think it looks better. It's just a simple aesthetic preference. I think the loose skin is unseemly. You use a lot of very loaded adjectives to describe what you feel a cut penis looks like. Do you get all hot when you see the sagging jowels, underarm saddlebags, and other limp shriveled parts of a naked 90 year old? They've got tons of extra skin hanging off of their bodies... can you explain how this is supposed to be attractive? I've seen videos of uncut guys achieving orgasm and then the semen gets caught up in the foreskin and slowly dribbles out the wrinkled folds of flesh surrounding the crowded glans and it looks like a cow teat slowly dripping out milk or some kind of worm lethargicly oozing goo out some malformed fleshy orifice. Granted, it could very well be that I'm just used to seeing my own penis all the time so my aversion to the sight of the uncut ones is just that they are different. and you may think they look beautiful and that's fantastic.

Never had any complaints about my "shrunkeness"... and... the missing scent? ugh. I really don't want to know what might get caught in any hypothetical foreskin that's going to cause it to smell. Another reason I don't care to acquire one.

Again, I'm not stating my opinions in such detail because I have strong feelings about the issue... you just keep prodding.
 

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dxjnorto said:
Why, pray tell?

these insitent questions by Chico and Dxjnorto make me feel like these guys are somehow out to prove us wrong for preferring a cut penis. Is it really so important that you make the case that uncut looks better? Can't everyone have their own preference? Like tattoos or belly-button rings? and Chico, is it really so important that you are in the majority? I notice you keep insisting that the majority of the world prefers the uncut penis... well.. yeah... of course. The procedure is not practiced much in China or India... there's the majority of the world for you. In the United States, however, it is still the rule and not the exception. Uncircumcised penises in this country, through they are becoming increasingly common, are still rare. You seem to be desperately grabbing on to this sense of belonging to a global majority, even though in the country that we both live in, you are definitely part of a minority. Is this because of insecurities you have surrounding how the choice you made will lead to you being perceived as odd or different? Is this why you seem so insistent on proving that cut penises are mutilated and ugly? (Alex, some of my language may have been insensitive, sorry) But back to Chico, do you really need to make other men feel like they are hideously scarred, partially dismembered, or sexually handicapped to make yourself feel better? Does this even make sense since you are not actually getting your foreskin back, merely trying to correct one unnatural body alteration with another by artificially stretching the skin of your penis? I'm not trying to make you feel bad, I just don't know why it seems like you feel the need to prove that your aesthetic preferences are superior, as if that were even possible.
 

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nineinch i'm with you

and i'm uncut
I don't understand the whole thing behind foreskin restoration - i really don't

I have what I have
yes I'm uncut
I have no idea of whats it like to be cut
a cock is a cock
be happy with you have and accept that other people with preferences regardless
 

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dxjnorto said:
Can someone please name another appendage that is improved by partial amputation?

If this (and Chico's earlier question about what could be gross about something natural) were really so hard to answer, then...

Nobody would ever get a nose job

Nobody would ever have liposuction or go on a diet

Nobody would ever shave or cut their hair

Nobody would ever clip their toenails or fingernails and we'd all have long gnarly twisty ones

Nobody would pluck their eyebrows or trim their nosehairs

Nobody would get a tummy tuck, face lift, ass lift, boob job, or blepharoplasty

Nobody would have tattoos or body piercings

Nobody would exfoliate or try to rub old dead skin off their bodies

Nobody would wear deodorant, cologne, or makeup of any kind

Nobody would ever pop a zit, or have any warts, skintags, lesions, or birth marks removed

Many people wouldn't bathe

Most would probably choose to never wear clothes

A few might choose to never flush the toilet (hey, if we're saving everything...)


Just a thought...
 

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I think you are making a fatal mistake.I`m a circuncised christian and very proud that I was circumcised.When I urinate,the foreskin is apparent,in uncircumcised penises the foreskin is invisible,every time you had to pull the foreskin and it shrinks inside.If circumcision ain`t healthy, our jewish brothers wouldn`t be circumcised.please Check these Websites:www.jewish circumcision.org.(if That website isn`t found,search for healthy circumcision websites).jESUS WAS CIRCUMCISED,AGAIN SEARCH FOR THE WEBSITES.gOOD LUCK.
 

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healthycircumcision said:
If circumcision ain`t healthy, our jewish brothers wouldn`t be circumcised.
One of the most baffling syllogisms ever posted under the guise of supposed "logical reasoning" that has ever appeared on this site, although your user name and posts in general to date make it clear that you have come here with both an agenda and an inability to construct lines of argumentation that follow any logical pattern. :rolleyes:
 

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healthycircumcision said:
I think you are making a fatal mistake.I`m a circuncised christian and very proud that I was circumcised.When I urinate,the foreskin is apparent,in uncircumcised penises the foreskin is invisible,every time you had to pull the foreskin and it shrinks inside.If circumcision ain`t healthy, our jewish brothers wouldn`t be circumcised.please Check these Websites:www.jewish circumcision.org.(if That website isn`t found,search for healthy circumcision websites).jESUS WAS CIRCUMCISED,AGAIN SEARCH FOR THE WEBSITES.gOOD LUCK.

i really don't understand what you are saying

so if i happen to be uncut i have an invisible foreskin?
but yet by being uncut i have a foreskin...
and then everytime i pee a small part of my foreskin disappears?

wow
who would have known...

i think you're a bit of a whacko to be honest
 

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NineInchCock_160IQ said:
these insitent questions by Chico and Dxjnorto make me feel like these guys are somehow out to prove us wrong for preferring a cut penis. Is it really so important that you make the case that uncut looks better? Can't everyone have their own preference?
well, i can't speak for chico or djxnorto, but i believe your preferences are your own and should not be second-guessed or subject to review by others. HOWEVER: i also think it's important that we make the distinction between someone's developed preference or opinion as an adult, and the determination to impose that preference on others as children (i know you haven't said that, but i get the impression that's what chico and djxnorto are inferring from your opinion). we can't encourage circumcision as "normal", for the simple reason that NEONATAL circumcision is a violation of basic human rights. if people wanna VOLUNTARILY get themselves cut as ADULTS, that's fine - their body, their decision - but we can't accept the practise of newborn circumcision in a society with any pretension to civilization.

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Nobody would ever get a nose job

Nobody would ever have liposuction or go on a diet

Nobody would get a tummy tuck, face lift, ass lift, boob job, or blepharoplasty

Nobody would have tattoos or body piercings
is circumcision really comparable to cosmetic surgery? i mean, it's not like many people put their dicks on display 24/7, or expect others to judge their personal appeal by the appearance of their penis. sounds like a logical fallacy to me.

tattoos and piercings generally don't involve the removal of large amounts of useful tissue - they add artifical decoration to body parts that already exist. more extreme body modification should be considered cosmetic surgery, IMO

Nobody would ever shave or cut their hair

Nobody would ever clip their toenails or fingernails and we'd all have long gnarly twisty ones

Nobody would pluck their eyebrows or trim their nosehairs

Nobody would exfoliate or try to rub old dead skin off their bodies
all dead cells - apples and oranges man. who the hell plucks their eyebrows and trims their nasal hairs?! who are these people and where do they live?

Nobody would wear deodorant, cologne, or makeup of any kind

Nobody would ever pop a zit, or have any warts, skintags, lesions, or birth marks removed

Many people wouldn't bathe

Most would probably choose to never wear clothes
don't be dumb - there are obvious PRACTICAL reasons, wholly unrelated to personal preferences, for doing all of those things - the same cannot be said for either cosmetic surgery or circumcision. someone who chooses not to bathe or wear clothes would be unable to function in society, unable to endure any variation in climate, expose themselves to all sorts of infections, etc. that's kinda why we all do those things in the first place - not because we want to or choose to, but because it's foolish or dangerous not to. the comparison certainly doesn't stand up.
 

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mindstar said:
nineinch i'm with you

and i'm uncut
I don't understand the whole thing behind foreskin restoration - i really don't

I have what I have
yes I'm uncut
I have no idea of whats it like to be cut
a cock is a cock
be happy with you have and accept that other people with preferences regardless

You just don't get it. My circ was so tight that sex was painful. You expect me to be happy with that? It's not a matter of preference but a matter of being able to enjoy sex.

Also, it should have been my choice not the choice of my parents or some so called medical professional. There's no case to be made for routine infant circumcision. If adults want to have the most sensitive part of their penis whacked off, that's their choice but to mutilate a child for no reason other than tradition or religion is just sick.
 

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This thread is about foreskin restoration. Every thread having to do with foreskin or the lack thereof turns into a debate about the value or "aesthetics" of having a shorn penis. Okay, some people get nose jobs. But we don't claim their sense of smell is improved.

I'm very willing to agree that genital cutting is "cosmetic" surgery. Cosmetic surgery is non-therapeutic. Are you sure that you are not looking for justification where none exists? This is called denial.

Is your belief culturally inculcated? If you were born almost anywhere in Western civilization or the Western hemisphere BESIDES the U.S., would you would be on my side of this debate?

I was harmed by genital cutting. If you weren't then there's no need to debate the value of foreskin restoration. So what are you debating?

We all have a right to our own feelings. You don't know what I feel. One of the reasons circ is so insidious is because men cut in their first day of life have no possibility of comparison. As a restoring male, I do.

The key to the circumcision issue is that it is an irreversible body modification without therapeutic need carried out without consent.

I feel fortunate that anything can be done about it at all.
 

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dxjnorto said:
This thread is about foreskin restoration. Every thread having to do with foreskin or the lack thereof turns into a debate about the value or "aesthetics" of having a shorn penis. Okay, some people get nose jobs. But we don't claim their sense of smell is improved.

I'm very willing to agree that genital cutting is "cosmetic" surgery. Cosmetic surgery is non-therapeutic. Are you sure that you are not looking for justification where none exists? This is called denial.

Is your belief culturally inculcated? If you were born almost anywhere in Western civilization or the Western hemisphere BESIDES the U.S., would you would be on my side of this debate?

I was harmed by genital cutting. If you weren't then there's no need to debate the value of foreskin restoration. So what are you debating?

We all have a right to our own feelings. You don't know what I feel. One of the reasons circ is so insidious is because men cut in their first day of life have no possibility of comparison. As a restoring male, I do.

The key to the circumcision issue is that it is an irreversible body modification without therapeutic need carried out without consent.

I feel fortunate that anything can be done about it at all.
a few quick points

you and chico are the ones who turned this into a debate. I was expressing an opinion and would have been happy leaving it at that.

you're the one who seems to be seeking justification and validation of your point of view, I'm merely answering questions posed by others who seem intent on attacking mine. Just because you have a different opinion does not render my answers a form of denial.

Everything you said about my position perhaps being culturally endowed are likely right on the money, I never contested this, in fact I've said as much in my own posts. What's your point? Like you mention in the next couple paragraphs, we're all entitled to our opinions. That includes people who disagree with you.