I notice someone suggesting spam here. Spam is not something with which we disagree with. However, spam can be the constant posting of the same information here, there and everywhere.
It is against the ToS to harass a person. It is not against the ToS to speak forcefully supporting your position on a subject.
I and I am sure the other mods will need to study this to make sure that it does not break the ToS. If it doesn't, of course it will be allowed to remain.
Freddie
The Moderator
Now a word from Freddie the member:
This outdated viewpoint is based on medieval beliefs that have been proven scientifically to be incorrect. In medieval times, people believed that a man was born with so much sperm (SEED) and there was no more to be produced. Medieval people also believed that there was just one "sperm" per ejaculation unless of course twins or triplets were born. Medieval people believed that the man produced the "seed" The "seed" was just like a plant seed. The entire human baby grew from the male seed. All the mother provided was a "pot" for the baby seed to grow in.
The medieval believed that if a man ejaculated outside a woman, then the man had just killed a human baby (the seed remember? What we call the sperm.
So the only reason to have sex was to take that one seed from the father and plant it into the woman so it would grow.
We know that men produce sperm and lots of it as in millions of them in one ejaculation. Scientists now know that the sperm only live so long in the body and if they are not ejaculated somewhere, someplace, they will die. So it doesn't matter if a man masturbates or not, all those million sperm are destined to die as a one cell organism unless the particular sperm in question finds a human egg in a woman during the sperm's lifetime.
If we were to follow the logic of the medieval people and each and every sperm was to find a female egg and grow into a human being, then each and every male far enough into puberty would have a million or so babies a day to feed and care for, not to mention a wife and mother for each and every one of those million sperm. Oh wait, I forgot. One man and one woman is also the rule according to this kind of web site. Poor dear, giving birth to a million babies a day for a life time.
The above paragraph is the dead end of what happens when we take old myths and then convert it to what we know with certainly by scientific discovery. It becomes rediculous.
Each man will produce possibly billions of sperm. We hope just a few of them will find an egg and grow into a baby. The rest of the billions of sperm are going to die. Die. No matter what the man does, masturbates, doesn't masturbate, have sex in which the woman does not get pregnant; the billions of sperm are going to die.
Normally we need to cite our sources. However, citation is not needed when what is written is universally accepted. That is the basic rule followed in all graduate papers guidelines. I know. I've done my share of graduate papers in which citation was required. All science books have this same basic information. It is considered as true as the sun is round and just as not necessary to cite a source.
In this case, all scientists who have studied human reproduction agree to what is written on this post.
But the thread is not really about the information above. The people who believe that garbage at that web site know modern biology. They are basing what they do on a lie and a lie that they know is a lie.
To base it solely on religious beliefs is different. If you want to beleive that God said that men are not suppose to play with themselves, fine. Believe it. You have that right. You have a right to share that you beleive that. But don't come up with a fraud explanation for it, based on a biological lie that you know is a lie and try to take advantage of teen boys and men who may not really understand biology.
People who are checking their teen age son's underwear solely to see if their are cum stains are sick, bad sick. That is just wrong. Again, our teen age boys can't prevent those cum stains any more than a baby can keep from peeing in his diaper. True a teen boy may can hide the stains, see that the cum stains are somewhere else besides the underwear that they have on. But if they are normal, they will produce cum and it will ejaculate at some place at some time.
Again, it makes me sick to my stomach when I hear of people searching other people's bodies, clothes or bedding for cum stains.
For the record, I had "the talk" with each of my sons at about sixth grade about sperm and masturbation. I told them there was absolutely nothing wrong with it, but it was something that should be private, not something done out in public or talked about in polite society. I let them know that boys their age would talk about it and if they were comfortable with talking with guys their own age then that was fine. but it wasn't dinner table conversation.
None of my boys ever told me about a specific masturbation they did. There was some allusion from time to time about masturbarting and a 'knowing" look. I have suspected when the door was locked whqt they were up to. I never let on. I respected thier privacy. If they wanted me to know they were masturbating, I'm sure they would have told me.
Again, I have no problem with men who on their own as a matter of their own conscience for whatever reason take a vow of no masturbation for themselves. I am not going to do it and I don't know any meny who I think are going to do it. But if a guy here wants to do it fine.
But, I find it extremely distasteful and the "sin" of stalking to try to catch other guys doing it, no matter the age of the guy, Parents who go overboard with this stalking are guilty of child abuse as far as I am concerned. If a guy can produce sperm and ejaculates in a private matter in an appropraite place it is no ones business including the boy's parents.
I've spoken part of my peace about the matter as a member. If you want the short version, I believe what that web site teaches is pure bull shit.
Freddie
The Member