Fox News calls Mr. Rogers Evil and Ruined My Generation Because We're All Special!

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    I workout with mr. roger's nephew and that is my claim to fame today. LSU and Faux News what a combo.
     
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    We can't all be special, can we? Oh, yes we can! Everyone falls somewhere on the continuum between special talents and special needs.
     
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    This is an old, but still VERY funny Faux "News" moment.
     
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    I lived in the Neighborhood.

    Perhaps the Fox anchors would prefer the Japanese approach: "the nail that sticks up gets hammered down".

    The irony is that Fred Rogers talked *to* children through his show, he never shouted, admonished, scolded, berated, or laughed at them like Fox does its listeners.
     
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    In all fairness, Faux News was merely parroting a message and contributing to (as they are notorious for doing) the snowballing of one innocuous remark into one of their alarm-sounding ratings grabs. :rolleyes:

    Way back in July 2005, the WSJ ran an article that quoted an LSU finance professor making an anecdotal remark about the behavioral differences he observed while teaching sizable numbers of Asian students...

    "They felt so entitled," he recalls, "and it just hit me. We can blame Mr. Rogers."

    This was stated in reference of the usual end-of-semester flood of American student appointements he takes where he's harangued about why each deserves a higher grade than they received, in contrast to the Asian students who are more prone to accepting his assessment without challenge.

    The "evil" remarks were a bit of lighthearted hyperbole from one of the morning show talking heads, obviously not meant to be taken literally.

    IMO, the only thing I find questionable about this is the timing. Why is the show digging up four-year-old quotes from obscure articles to find topics for discussion? Is there really that little going on in the world?


    Now, can we please stop this left/right nitpicking bullshit?
     
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    I don't know if it's possible, Hazel. People just don't seem comfortable enough with their own political persuasion to accept others for theirs. So many are constantly trying to prove their leftness or rightness. It makes it so difficult to have a real conversation about politics anymore.

    *sigh*
     
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    This is a load of crap. What I can see mainly is that many parents fought the battles they should have been teaching their children to fight on their own. In addition when I was young you had to be good enough to make any sport team in school. Now not only can anyone be on the team but you get a trophy just for doing the best you can. It used to be only the people who excelled got a prize. Why would these children who are now young adults not feel entitled?
    Their parents have given them everything in the world with out having to work for it.
    I don't know if it's just the people I know with school age children but they would never think of asking them to help around the house, because they have servants. They would never dream of saying that they have to get a summer job because it will help them evolve to go to ballet camp and then Europe.
    I suspect whoever this fucktard who came up with the Mr. Rogers as the scape goat most likely is a parent who thought it was easier to blame someone else than admit to their own substandard parenting skills.
    I think Fox took the whole thing fairly tongue in cheek, but seriously if we don't publish every piece of crap idea that someone comes up with...I guess they won't feel special!
     
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    Fred Rogers is the only person I've never met who'd I trust to babysit my kids. I too grew-up in the neighborhood and I think it's important not to lose the other part of Mr. Rogers' message.

    Yes, Rogers believed in rewarding sincere effort without success, but he also believed in making the best effort we can make and taking pride in making that effort. He wasn't an advocate for laziness nor reticence. He urged kids to try different things even if they didn't know how to do them perfectly at first. He wanted kids to be enthusiastic, not fearful, of new situations and activities. I think he acted as foil for so many parents who push their kids to do things and then berate the kids for failure when they don't learn to do those things well right off the bat. Mr. Rogers said, "If you try, try your best. If you still fail, then keep trying. Even if you're not the best at something, take pride in accomplishing what you have done." He was not a Friday Night Lights parent.

    Yes, Rogers believed we are all special. We are. None of us has the perfect combination of talents and knowledge to match any other person in this world. Rogers told us that Suzie might be great at singing and we might not be, and if we aren't even if we try hard, we have other talents that Suzie might not have. He believed it's very important that we not devalue ourselves when we compare our own suite of talents to those of someone else. We might not be the fastest runner, but we might be the better tennis player. We might not have clothes as fancy as Heather, but we might have more style.

    It's very easy for kids to be discouraged when they see their friends excel at things they don't. Rogers simply encouraged us to find our own niche and take pride in the talents we do have. Self esteem is important in the world both as a kid and as an adult. It's particularly important to instill this in young kids because adolescence is so often a time of uncertainty, insecurity, raging hormones, anxieties, and peer pressure. If an adolescent doesn't believe in his or her own worth, only judging themselves by how their friends see them, then you're raising a child to be an insecure adult. Giving a kid self-confidence can help him or her get through the storms of adolescence with a minimum of problems.

    Young kids are not adults. The message that Rogers and others gives to kids seems simplistic and unrealistic to us as adults, but that's OK. They will come to learn the realities of the adult world but they need to learn that when the time is right and the time is NOT right for kids who are of the age of Rogers' audience. At that stage in life, kids need to have their self-esteem built so that when the time does arrive, they will be better able to handle the realities of the adult world with their confidence intact.
     
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    Ach! Kids today!

    In my day, all we had for fun was a bag of rocks and a broken shoehorn and a wrench to be shared between with fifty other children, and if you were allowed close enough to your mother to breathe in her second-hand smoke it was because she loved you.

    Now get off my fucking lawn or I'll call the cops.
     
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