Fox News Contributor, Liz Trotta, Wants Obama to Die
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thorshammer
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You defining fascist as a constant perjorative -when it is in it's correct form a well defined system of government -It was coined by Mussolini (as fascismo) and in it's purest form applies only to the system of government that ruled Italy from 1922 to 1943- and socialist as not being possible to be used as a pejorative, doesn't make any sense.
The modern usage of fascist as an epithet is what you are thinking of, much as I was USING socialist, but to try to exclusively define one by it's slang usage and one by it's proper usage is what is not appropriate.
In your circle, socialist may never be used as an epithet, but it is an accepted one amongst millions of people.
You're exactly right I was. So what part do you not understand?
Is this the liberal double-standard raising it's watchful head again?
Or did you merely misunderstand my semantics?
I wouldn't expect you to, I was being a smart ass about you defending. If someone wants to use capitalist or conservative much in the same way I used socialist, the thought police might get upset, but I won't.
Que pensez-vous de mon riposte? ...but I'm really getting tired of this tangent
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Thank you. What in the world did taking Fox News out have to do with socialism? He's an idiot. If you don't know how to use a word in a sentence then don't.
If taking whacking someone you don't like is socialism then George Bush is a socialist. Duuuh.
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Haha. Boy you're someone to be calling people an idiot, I knew it wouldn't be long before the pseudo-intellectuals called themselves out.
Did you even read thors response? Did you have 5 tabs open looking up pejorative, semantics, fascist and socialist? Doubt you could even follow the argument those two just had jargon.
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I'll stick with my own voice, thanks. I've been told I sound like the love-child of Lauren Becall and Teddy Kennedy
I called for "universal health coverage regardless of pre-existing conditions", which is something currently unavailable in 49 or 50 states. This is not some cheap rhetorical point for me: I live with HIV. And where I live, private insurance is unavailable to me. Most open-enrollment, group health plans that I have looked into also have exceptions that can limit or exclude coverage of my meds and/or the testing that's required every 3-4 months.
Add to this the fact that I have a rather advanced case or degenerative disc disease in my cervical spine and that opens up another whole realm of exclusions.
Shit happens to everybody, baby. Hopefully by the time it happens to you, you'll have the benefit of universal health coverage and won't be obliged to bankrupt yourself attempting to care for it.
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I'll stick with my own voice, thanks. I've been told I sound like the love-child of Lauren Becall and Teddy Kennedy
I called for "universal health coverage regardless of pre-existing conditions", which is something currently unavailable in 49 or 50 states. This is not some cheap rhetorical point for me: I live with HIV. And where I live, private insurance is unavailable to me. Most open-enrollment, group health plans that I have looked into also have exceptions that can limit or exclude coverage of my meds and/or the testing that's required every 3-4 months.
Add to this the fact that I have a rather advanced case or degenerative disc disease in my cervical spine and that opens up another whole realm of exclusions.
Shit happens to everybody, baby. Hopefully by the time it happens to you, you'll have the benefit of universal health coverage and won't be obliged to bankrupt yourself attempting to care for it.
The NY Times did a series years ago (I linked to it at the time and few read it) called Class Matters.
One of the topics was class and health care. Three people in NY have heart attacks and have didactically different treatment experiences based soley on income and class.
You should read it (if you haven't).
Class Matters - Social Class in the United States of America - The New York Times
The entire series: Class Matters
Haha. Boy you're someone to be calling people an idiot, I knew it wouldn't be long before the pseudo-intellectuals called themselves out.
Did you even read thors response? Did you have 5 tabs open looking up pejorative, semantics, fascist and socialist? Doubt you could even follow the argument those two just had jargon.
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This thread has strayed a little off topic.
I think the main point Mrs. Trotta showed was that her and ALOT of people think before they speak an let out what they truly believe. Even in a "joke" she still proved that she was ignorant enough to say it in the first place.
In order for America to really change people need to be more educated and open.
I don't know why anyone still takes fox news seriously anyway. Their only 4 or 5 IQ points higher than MTV.
Everything that comes from that channel is biased to the agenda of the highest bidder.
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But in terms of the socialist-non socialist garbage.
If you are against certain forms of socialized healthcare do you not realize how much is already socialized. Live public services and school systems.
Most arguments against socialization are do to ignorance of the topic itself.
I think the main point Mrs. Trotta showed was that her and ALOT of people think before they speak an let out what they truly believe. Even in a "joke" she still proved that she was ignorant enough to say it in the first place.
In order for America to really change people need to be more educated and open.
I don't know why anyone still takes fox news seriously anyway. Their only 4 or 5 IQ points higher than MTV.
Everything that comes from that channel is biased to the agenda of the highest bidder.
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But in terms of the socialist-non socialist garbage.
If you are against certain forms of socialized healthcare do you not realize how much is already socialized. Live public services and school systems.
Most arguments against socialization are do to ignorance of the topic itself.
