Fox News, Fair and Balanced?

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  1. Industrialsize

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    Fox News and Wall Street Journal parent company News Corp donated $1 million to the Republican Governors Association in June, Bloomberg BusinessWeek reported.
    The media conglomerate, controlled by Chairman and CEO Rupert Murdoch, took advantage of the unlimited donations corporations can give to governors' associations




    Fox parent gives $1 million to RGA

    News Corp., which owns Fox News and the New York Post, gave $1 million to Haley Barbour's Republican Governors Association this year, according to the RGA's most recent filing.
    The company's media outlets play politics more openly than most, but the huge contribution to a party committee is a new step toward an open identification between Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. and the GOP. The company's highest-ranking Democratic executive, Peter Chernin, recentlydepated.
    News Corp Donates $1 MILLION To Republican Governors Association


    Fox parent gives $1 million to RGA - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com
     
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    so one-sided not even funny
     
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    This is part of why we cancelled DirectTV, which I explained to the various solicitors who tried to get us to sign back on.
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    Is anyone shocked? This is why the people dont have power in America (or most Western countries for that matter). When Big business can throw big money at politics, they will always sound louder than the people.
     
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    Fox News is as balanced as MSNBC. Guess if you watch 30: mins of each, you get a cheap imitation of fair and balanced. This is why I only listen/watch BBC.
     
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    Not quite. Can you explain why Joe Scarborough has a 3 hour morning show on MSNBC and why Pat Buchanan is a Daily presence????They're not exactly lefties.
     
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    oh yeah, forget about those guys. I only watch Olbermann, Maddow and that fat headed guy (can't remember his name). lol
     
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    Fox, as a Network is probably the equivalent of the National Enquirer with regards to News Accuracy. My largest problem is that they start off with something that is legitimate News, and by the end, so much "opinion" has been introduced into the story and with great skill "weaved in" that it ceases to have value any longer.

    At Fox, the only thing that counts in their eyes is commercialism and ratings with regards to their news telecasts. Watching Fox News is no different than watching the "Faux News" shows aired on the "700 Club" where kindly old fossil Pat Robertson takes legitimate News Stories and tells you what you should be thinking and more importantly to him voting.

    The only thing that the Fox Network and it's owner Rupert Murdoch care about is money. Rupert is a very crafty businessman with zero ethics and zero morals, yet, he and his network dictate to others what morals and values should be. In the United States, his main company "Newscorp" also is the largest porn producer. Murdoch derives enormous profits from porn. At the same time, his own News Anchors rail on and on about how "evil" it is.

    Every low brow show which goes for the gutter can usually be found on Fox.

    As far as News, there is no 100% accurate sources any more. One has to go to straight news sources, and then look at those carefully to see if opinion has been an "added bonus" slanting the news story in one direction or another.

    I basically do my best to avoid "FAUX" with regards to everything if at all possible.
     
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    No, wrong. MSNBC may have more liberal commentators than conservative, but they are in NO way comparable to Fox News. Fox is lock step with the GOP. There is NO semblance of balance. MSNBC at least has a regular news segment where they dont say liberal equivalents of wondering aloud whether the "fist bump" is a terrorist fist jab. Please, let's stop with the false equivalencies.
     
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    Can we officially end the 'fair and balanced' charade now? It really is over.
     
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    Are you a producer for MSNBC... cause you're taking this kinda hard...
     
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    :rolleyes:

    No, I'm just sick and tired of people defending Fox News by bringing other stations down to their level, and justifying their blatant bias by saying "both sides do it." Quit with that crap. It isn't true. The tragedy of the matter is that Fox is so far to the right, that anybody closer to the middle is accused of being liberal. It isn't true. MSNBC has Joe Scarborough as a commentator. What regular liberal (don't say colmes he doesnt count) commentator does Fox have? They have bozos like O'Reilly and Hannity and Glenn Beck :)puke:).
     
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    Well that's something everyone can agree on.:wink:

    People forget that Obama got a staggeringly easy ride on his way to power.

    The BBC in the UK has an enforced state subscription, yet is uniquely biased to the left.

    All media owners project the version of the news that suits their point of view.

    You're better off reading as widely as I do - whenever something of interest comes along with one slant, find another slant as diametrically opposed as possible.

    At least you know you're getting both sides of the debate.

    Anyone with any media dealings will tell you that they never let the truth get in the way of a good story:biggrin1:

    I think Fox itself only presents an illusion of a dissenting view - for dollars, & to prevent any more accurate truthful entrant filling the vacant space.

    You're all getting worried over the wrong thing. We're all being traduced.
     
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    Anyone or any entity that feels it necessary to repeatedly spout their credentials as a tagline is overcompensating for some inadequacy.

    Hearing "Fox News...fair and balanced," every time they cut to commercial break pretty much tells me they aren't.

    Same goes for CNN with their retarded-ass valedictum of "the best political team on television."

    Ugh.
     
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    Even "award winning" doesn't necessarily mean a good award.
     
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    What does a Sept 2009 Pew Research Survey say? Distilled down, here are 5 things:

    1. Republicans, Dems, and Independents are unified in thinking one thing: 29% say that all major news orgs (including the axis of cable evil: Fox, CNN, MSNBC) get stories/facts right while 63% say they get them wrong.

    2. Respectively, 84%, 67%, and 73% of republicans, democrats, and independents think that presented stories in the press tend to favor one side versus the other.

    3. Democrats responses as to their favorable/unfavorable ratings for CNN, MSNBC, NPR, the NYT, the WSJ, and Fox News were, respectively, 75-7, 60-7, 50-7, 39-8, 29-16, and 43-36.

    4. Republicans response to favorable/unfavorable ratings for those same outlets, in same order as above, were, 44-34, 34-35, 39-13, 16-31, 39-12, and 72-13.

    5. In July 1985, respondents felt by a margin of 41-19-40 that the press, overall, was liberal-conservative-neither or do not know. In July 2009, that split is 50-22-27

    What does it partially mean?

    One thing you could say is that, overall, liberals are much more unified in their love of their favored news sources than are conservatives in hatred of the same ones.

    Another is that we have definitely polarized. Nothing is total and complete, but liberals do gravitate towards outlets that favor their viewpoints and conservatives do the same. And a large majority of people see a liberal or conservative tendency in how stories are presented.

    Over 24 years, American's views that the press maintains a liberal bias have remained firm. The now-expanded marketplace that is TV News has allowed the market to split along its fault lines and everyone can run to their favored corner.

    Democrats as a whole have (as of last summer) a net +7 favorable/unfavorable (43-36) opinion of Fox News. Obviously if you are on a site or forum that leans strongly to the left, and where the basic opinion of Fox News is nearly universally negative, a heavy portion of that 36% is speaking up while the 43% is either silent or not present.

    And considering that the Internet allows for even greater fracturing of the news audience, look for more of the same as we move forward.
     
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    And most telling of all not a mention of the donation at foxnews.com. 'We report, you decide' doesn't apply to the actions of it's megalomanic owner Rupert Murdoch and his War on Journalism.
     
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    It's the only news I'll watch.
     
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    No "news organization" should be contributing money to ANY political party. Period. Doesn't matter if they have a liberal or conservative slant. Having reporters or pundits that sway to one side more than the other is one thing, especially if they're responsible for their own stories. However, when a supposed "fair & balanced" news source gives a political party their largest contribution for a fundraising quarter they lose ALL credibility as being open minded & objective. At least the "liberally biased" MSNBC has people like Joe Scarborough (a noted Conservative) and even Dylan Ratigan (who isn't far progressive left) to provide different viewpoints. Even the most left of the bunch, Keith Olbermann, will occasionally do a Special Report and take everyone to task regardless of political affiliation. Whom does Faux have that report anything that is outside of the realm of Conservatism? Nobody.

    It's now official. Faux is NOT news. It's right-winged propaganda being fed to people who would rather hear what they want instead of what they need to regardless of how good or bad the message is... all bought and paid for.
     
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    Isn't that a shocker.
     
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