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I would rebut this, but I think laughing at it would be more effective.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Thanks for that bit of partisan comedy.


so, you can't communicate well, not a crime. you could of tried something or anything, but to laugh at this only proves my own point.
you have NOTHING TO SAY IN DEFENSE of what is written.
grow up..
 

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so, you can't communicate well, not a crime. you could of tried something or anything, but to laugh at this only proves my own point.
you have NOTHING TO SAY IN DEFENSE of what is written.
grow up..

Seriously, a 10 year old can prove you wrong. I have plenty that I could say, however, I'm not sure if you would even comprehend it all if it was spelled out for you. But let me give you a hint...

Even with Fox News and their television ratings, CNN reaches out to more people per month overall.

Try to figure out why... if you can. Because if you can't even figure it out then you shouldn't even be on the internet. :rolleyes:
 

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Nice try... don't take a few bad apples and broad brush a whole ideology. I could care less how much golf the dumbfuck plays... I hope his links game is better than his policy game... otherwise, I feel very bad for him.

(hoping healthcare keeps getting rammed... course we take our time with Afghanistan... yet rush a program that isn't starting for 4 years... Al Gore is jealous)

sargon: I love those conservatives trying to stir up "Tea Party"-like anger at Obama taking his wife out to dinner and a play -- "at taxpayer's expense" -- by tallying up the cost of Air Force One, the limo, the Secret Service security, the dinner and play costs.

They are hitting new lows (I don't remember these same conservatives tallying up costs for "W" and Laura's dates or trips).
 

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Just because the other networks fell into line for Faux News is not an endorsement. What they did was akin to the Blue Code of Silence. Need to circle the wagons and protect ourselves even though who we are protecting is guilty as sin.

Of course! It couldn't possibly be because they (the other news organizations) acted with integrity because they realized that to not speak up would be tantamount to acquiescing with The White House's list of enemies, which they themselve could very well land on someday soon if they do not submit to the will of this administration.

Wake up... even the NY Times is watching FOX News to ensure they don't miss another important story THAT TURNED OUT TO BE 100% TRUE, like they did with Van Jones. THAT is the endorsement and an admission that FOX is every bit a news organization as the networks and other cable news channels are. Why else would Obama, Emmanuel, and Axelrod be suggesting to the other news organizations NOT to follow FOX? That should scare you, if you're the intellectually honest person you try to pass yourself off as. Think about it... if you're capable of a sincere and honest examination of what's happening.
 

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Wake up... even the NY Times is watching FOX News to ensure they don't miss another important story THAT TURNED OUT TO BE 100% TRUE, like they did with Van Jones.

And here is the Van Jones story in a nutshell.
He was a membership of a "socialist group" and showed support for Mumia Abu-Jamal, a death row prisoner who he felt was wrongly arrested like Amnesty International. Highly documented conservative sources, such as WorldNetDaily, Americans for Prosperity and Glenn "The Government Is Tracking You With OnStar" Beck attacked him constantly for nearly 5 months. In retaliation, Van Jones ran a small ad campaign through Color of Change to encourage sponsors to not support Beck's show on Fox. Magically, a website called DefendGlenn.com (HA!) emerged showing Van Jones calling congressional Republicans "assholes". This, of course was blown way beyond proportion as well. Then it was found out that he signed the 9-11 Truth petition, and video emerged where made an off the mark comment about "white boys" being the only ones that shot up schools. Then, all hell broke loose. Several Republicans (who were now mad because he called them all assholes) such as Representative Mike Pence (R-Indiana) & Senator John Cornyn (R-Texas) started pushing towards Van Jones' resignation.

Even if you think the story is true... it's the content that gets to me the most. Almost everything about this story screams typical, "politics as usual" bullshit. If you think any other news organization is paying attention to Fox News to see who they're leading a smear campaign against then you're sadly mistaken, and for anyone to think this was anything more than retaliation from a news organization over lost sponsorship is giving Fox WAY too much credit. Wake up and realize there's bigger fish to fry out there. Everyone else has.
 

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And here is the Van Jones story in a nutshell.
He was a membership of a "socialist group" and showed support for Mumia Abu-Jamal, a death row prisoner who he felt was wrongly arrested like Amnesty International. Highly documented conservative sources, such as WorldNetDaily, Americans for Prosperity and Glenn "The Government Is Tracking You With OnStar" Beck attacked him constantly for nearly 5 months. In retaliation, Van Jones ran a small ad campaign through Color of Change to encourage sponsors to not support Beck's show on Fox. Magically, a website called DefendGlenn.com (HA!) emerged showing Van Jones calling congressional Republicans "assholes". This, of course was blown way beyond proportion as well. Then it was found out that he signed the 9-11 Truth petition, and video emerged where made an off the mark comment about "white boys" being the only ones that shot up schools. Then, all hell broke loose. Several Republicans (who were now mad because he called them all assholes) such as Representative Mike Pence (R-Indiana) & Senator John Cornyn (R-Texas) started pushing towards Van Jones' resignation.

Even if you think the story is true... it's the content that gets to me the most. Almost everything about this story screams typical, "politics as usual" bullshit. If you think any other news organization is paying attention to Fox News to see who they're leading a smear campaign against then you're sadly mistaken, and for anyone to think this was anything more than retaliation from a news organization over lost sponsorship is giving Fox WAY too much credit. Wake up and realize there's bigger fish to fry out there. Everyone else has.

Revise much? That's NOT what happened at all! Glenn Beck came across video and audio of Van Jones saying some off the wall stuff and asked why Obama would knowingly nominate a man who'd say such things to be the "Green-Jobs Czar". Beck NEVER EVER ONCE smeared Van Jones. That's a damn lie and I have the last three months of Beck's program DVR'd to prove it. He merely played the video of this guy saying the creepy leftist COMMUNIST shit he was shoveling in speech after speech. When other news agencies grew some sack and started asking some of the same questions, lo and behold Van Jones resigns. Do you really think he did this of his own volition? FOX news didn't smear the man, they let his own words be his undoing.

Do you watch FOX at all to verify what you say happened in fact really happened, or did you get the story second hand from some dishonest website?

The truth is what matters and sometimes small fish get fried in the process of uncovering the things people normally don't want to think about. Van Jones was only the tip of the iceberg.
 

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Revise much? That's NOT what happened at all! Glenn Beck came across video and audio of Van Jones saying some off the wall stuff and asked why Obama would knowingly nominate a man who'd say such things to be the "Green-Jobs Czar". Beck NEVER EVER ONCE smeared Van Jones. That's a damn lie and I have the last three months of Beck's program DVR'd to prove it. He merely played the video of this guy saying the creepy leftist COMMUNIST shit he was shoveling in speech after speech. When other news agencies grew some sack and started asking some of the same questions, lo and behold Van Jones resigns. Do you really think he did this of his own volition? FOX news didn't smear the man, they let his own words be his undoing.

Do you watch FOX at all to verify what you say happened in fact really happened, or did you get the story second hand from some dishonest website?

The truth is what matters and sometimes small fish get fried in the process of uncovering the things people normally don't want to think about. Van Jones was only the tip of the iceberg.

So, you ARE confirming that the Fox News attack on Van Jones was indeed a smear campaign? Thank you. :rolleyes:

BTW... just to let you know, I don't just watch one news organization or look at one website to get the news or to develop an opinion on any news article. Apparently, Fox is all you need in order to get your news stories. Must be nice to throw all of your trust into one source like that.
 
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So, you ARE confirming that the Fox News attack on Van Jones was indeed a smear campaign? Thank you. :rolleyes:

BTW... just to let you know, I don't just watch one news organization or look at one website to get the news or to develop an opinion on any news article. Apparently, Fox is all you need in order to get your news stories. Must be nice to throw all of your trust into one source like that.


NO!!!! I EMPHATICALLY MAINTAIN THAT THERE NEVER WAS A SMEAR CAMPAIGN AGAINST VAN JONES ON FOX!! Can you COMPREHEND what you fucking read? Apparently not; as I said no such thing. A smear campaign implies falsehoods and distortions were reported for the purpose of demonizing someone for political gain. All Beck did was show video of Van Jones saying wacked out shit, which I no doubt believe you agree with. VAN JONES SMEARED VAN JONES if anything. Smear isn't even the right word. EXPOSED is more like it.

BTW... just so you know, unless you see a smear happen with your own eyes, as it's happening, it's hearsay. That's what I was alluding to when I asked you if you even watch FOX. Just because some other news channel suggests, implies, or flat out says someone was smeared... don't believe it until you verify or debunk it. But you answered my question; which is NO. You just get the same opinion from all the others and then claim your thoughts are your own because more than one news organization parroted...er, I mean said it too.

I guarantee you I get my news from many sources and my thoughts are my own.
 

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NO!!!! I EMPHATICALLY MAINTAIN THAT THERE NEVER WAS A SMEAR CAMPAIGN AGAINST VAN JONES ON FOX!! Can you COMPREHEND what you fucking read? Apparently not; as I said no such thing. A smear campaign implies falsehoods and distortions were reported for the purpose of demonizing someone for political gain. All Beck did was show video of Van Jones saying wacked out shit, which I no doubt believe you agree with. VAN JONES SMEARED VAN JONES if anything. Smear isn't even the right word. EXPOSED is more like it.

BTW... just so you know, unless you see a smear happen with your own eyes, as it's happening, it's hearsay. That's what I was alluding to when I asked you if you even watch FOX. Just because some other news channel suggests, implies, or flat out says someone was smeared... don't believe it until you verify or debunk it. But you answered my question; which is NO. You just get the same opinion from all the others and then claim your thoughts are your own because more than one news organization parroted...er, I mean said it too.

I guarantee you I get my news from many sources and my thoughts are my own.
Fox DID smear Van Jones:
Hannity continued to push "statutory rape" smear even after Fox reporter questioned story's accuracy | Media Matters for America
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200909020009
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200909010028
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908260051
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908260050
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908240128
 
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NO!!!! I EMPHATICALLY MAINTAIN THAT THERE NEVER WAS A SMEAR CAMPAIGN AGAINST VAN JONES ON FOX!! Can you COMPREHEND what you fucking read?

Can you comprehend a sarcastic joke when you see one typed in ASCII? Apparently not, fuckwad. :rolleyes:

Apparently not; as I said no such thing.

No shit, Sherlock. But as you can see, I don't agree with you and probably never will.

A smear campaign implies falsehoods and distortions were reported for the purpose of demonizing someone for political gain.

First off, learn what the terminology means. A smear campaign, in its simplest form, is an attempt to destroy one's name and/or reputation. The reasons why its done will vary. Are you trying to deny that certain key Republicans, with the assistance of Fox News, did not try to bring down Van Jones with various rhetorical character attacks that had nothing to do with whether or not he could do his job effectively? Did the fact he at one time signed a 9/11 Truth petition or called Republicans assholes REALLY show a level of incompetence that should have cost him his job? Absolutely not. Plus, you act as if this happens only in politics. As if Coke-A-Cola, Wal-Mart or General Motors were never the subject of any character degrading attacks by certain labor Unions who didn't like how things were being run within these corporations. That's strike two, Casey...

All Beck did was show video of Van Jones saying wacked out shit, which I no doubt believe you agree with. VAN JONES SMEARED VAN JONES if anything. Smear isn't even the right word. EXPOSED is more like it.

And with one mighty swing of the rhetorical bat, the almighty Casey struck out... :rolleyes:

First off, a simple Google search will prove that Glenn Beck did a lot MORE than just show a video. Attacks on this man were made by Glenn Beck as far back as July. You can read it for yourself FROM THEIR OWN SITE: Why Media Ignored Van Jones Story - Glenn Beck - FOXNews.com

And just because I know you're probably too lazy to click on the link, how about I post a few lines from the transcripts to refresh your memory. You know, since you hold this "news organization" in such high regard:

From the transcripts of the Glenn Beck Show:

July 23rd: Obama's new green "czar," Van Jones, this is the guy who is a self-avowed communist and he is in the Obama administration.

July 28th: Van Jones, he is a self-proclaimed communist. He is — he is one of the founding members of Apollo.

August 11th: Here's Van Jones. He was a black nationalist. He came out an anarchist and communist, and now, he's our green jobs "czar."

So really, Beck just showed a video, huh? That's ALL he did, right? His constant, belittling remarks labeling him an anarchist, communist, nationalist & czar didn't count as some kind of attempt to attack the image of his opponent, right? Go ahead and say that they don't so I can call you a hypocrite. :rolleyes:

As for the videos, there were more than just one. Here are just two of them from August and September:
YouTube - Glenn Beck exposes Color of Change co-founder Van Jones
YouTube - Glenn Beck on Van Jones 9/3/2009 Segment 1

BTW... just so you know, unless you see a smear happen with your own eyes, as it's happening, it's hearsay.

You wouldn't know what a smear campaign looked like if it teabagged you and shot a load in your right eye. :rolleyes:

That's what I was alluding to when I asked you if you even watch FOX.

You don't have to watch it as it airs on TV. As you can plainly see, internet searches to their own sites and video clips will do just as well if done properly. I mean, this is 2009... are we still planning evenings around the telly just to watch the news?

Just because some other news channel suggests, implies, or flat out says someone was smeared... don't believe it until you verify or debunk it.

Did I provide any other news source to prove my point here? No. I made up my OWN mind and provided sources from the very network you claimed I don't pay attention to for backup. Last time I checked, this is what you're supposed to do when you read and hear the news. At least thinkers do this.

You already failed earlier in this post, you don't get anymore swings.

You just get the same opinion from all the others and then claim your thoughts are your own because more than one news organization parroted...er, I mean said it too.

BULLSHIT. Not a single link I posted was an "opinion" generated by a news organization other than Fox. Sorry if my opinion doesn't align with yours.

I guarantee you I get my news from many sources and my thoughts are my own.

Don't lie to yourself. Because if you actually did get your news from other sources, you'd see that this is without a doubt a smear campaign. Which is probably why many other news organizations didn't even bother reporting on it because they all knew it was rather stupid. People in Politics and high profile jobs are reviled in this manner all the time. Not many actually resign because of them, although I can understand why some people wouldn't want to be the focus of such undermined attacks.

Next time, don't bring a butter knife to a sword fight. You're making it TOO easy to discredit you.


Edit: Thanks for the assist, Indy... :biggrin:
 
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The empty cans indeed rattle the loudest.

VinylBoy... you are FUCKING RETARDED. I feel no need to hold back now that you have called me a "fuckwad" and insulted me throughout your idiotic and adolescent tantrum.

If that was a joke, sarcastic as you claim, you FAILED! Where's the set up? Where's the brutal punchline sarcastic jokes are intended to produce? It may be darkly humorous in your feeble brain but to the rest of us with actual senses of humor, it's just pathetic.

Also, the Glenn Beck quotes you posted PROVE you have no idea of what you are talking about. Van Jones admitted to being a Marxist. That is not up for dispute. The man wrote about it and spoke about it. Glenn Beck uttering the words "Van Jones is an avowed communist" is merely stating a fact that can be verified by the subject's own words. It is NOT a smear. How you, or Industrialsize, can believe it is is beyond all comprehension.

Obviously, you are so WACKED out and leftist yourself that pointing this stuff out is like saying the sky is blue or the grass is green. It's not outside your comfort level enough for this to register that IT IS FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY!!!!!!! DO YOU FUCKING GET THAT, YOU ASSHOLE? Van Jones is out of a White House job because this was threatening to blow gaping holes into the "transparency" and the "Hope and Change" shit your precious savior Barack Obama fooled you all into believing he'd bring. Instead it hipped people into starting to think that maybe this administration has more dubious plans than people gave it credit for last November. You may think having avowed Marxists serving for the President of the United States of America is peachy keen; but I don't... neither do millions of other Americans and I'm glad that mother fucker resigned!! I don't believe he did on his own either. The bottomline fact is Glenn Beck did the job other "journalists" should have been doing. You call it a smear even though you are wrong and the empirical evidence proves it. Van Jones was exposed for who he really is and I don't want a person like that making green policy.

Try to see this from the perspective of someone who isn't YOU. You might be surprised how different the world looks and how much it challenges your opinions. And before you offer some smart ass remark about following my own advice, I already have. I know you better than you might think because I used to be you. Stew in that and tell me what it means.
 

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That's ok... just keep havin' yer boy Barrah ripping on Fox. It's a sham, and he should call them out DAILY. You're all right...

I've never seen so many experts on a news channel, whom yet rarely/never watch it much.