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Okay, that makes sense. I think that in some ways it is indeed necessary to have a structured environment in order to bond with people, and apparently frats offer that. I suppose that, being the individualist I am, I am scared by the idea of a frat brainwashing people into thinking that others are their "brothers" simply because they passed a review board. Brotherhood, in my mind, goes much deeper than that.


I think the comment I highlighted in red is a silly comment.

I say that because people meet and become friends/"brothers" because they discover they have things in common and develop friendships. There is no difference in developing a connection with others in a fraternity or in a residence/dormroom/workplace. People are brought together because they have something in common and we build from there.
 
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Okay, well, I'm signing off from this thread. Just about everything I've said has been misinterpreted by just about everyone in this thread. I'm not a troll. I'm misunderstood on this topic, because apparently this is a highly sensitive issue for some of you. Before I leave, I'll offer one last attempt at clarification:

* Within me is a conflict about all of this. On one hand, I think it is wonderful that some of you found a wonderful network within frats. On the other hand, I have the perspective of the guy from the UK who says that they don't have frats in the UK because they are individualists.

It seems to me that I am being ganged up on simply for having an opinion. I don't think that's a fair or productive environment within which to have any kind of discussion, so I'm leaving this thread. Frankly, I think the dogmatism some of you are expressing on this topic is a bit fascisitic.
 

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It seems to me that I am being ganged up on simply for having an opinion. I don't think that's a fair or productive environment within which to have any kind of discussion, so I'm leaving this thread. Frankly, I think the dogmatism some of you are expressing on this topic is a bit fascisitic.


It is nice that you are willing to see both sides, G. Unfortunately, after I have read all the posts on here, it seems that you are MORE willing to stick with your opinion that you received from the guy in the UK.

I have a feeling that Frats are different depending on where you go in the World. The states has this Long standing tradition of having frats that are successful and excellent for making new friends. It is just another one of those groups that some like and some dislike.

You need to be more open minded if you expect people to not "jump on you". That doesn't mean you have to agree with everyone. It just means you need to consider what people have to say and read comments in their entirety, rather than just picking out the points that you like.
 

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I think we have a troll.
First, I said I wouldn't come back into this thread, but someone PM'd me to take a look at a post. That said...

I tend to agree with you, but even though you've been here over a year, with only one post under your belt, and your second post calling someone out... As right as I think you are, I'm hesitant to jump on the bandwagon. :biggrin1:
 
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Frats are pretty big at my school, even though I'm not in one. A lot of my friends are and I have heard PLENTY of stories. But, none that include any form of jacking off solo or in a group. Sorry if that disappoints anyone.
 

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My fraternity was a very large one (about 150 guys). The pledge master made one thing clear when we started our pledging: The brothers would never make us take our clothes off. "We aren't fags, so we don't have any desire to see you naked," he said.

That was a cardinal rule in my fraternity, and everybody stuck to it. So, while others may have some sexy stories (and God bless you for them!), I don't have any.

The only really good story that I have is that the fraternity house was built with three built-in beds in each room. I loved the night that one of my roommates brought a girl home. Both of them were drunk, and he was determined to fuck her.

She was like, "But your roommates are here."

He was like, "They're asleep. They never wake up." (I was a light sleeper, and he knew it!)

So he starts fucking her doggy style. I'm watching every bit of it. He looks over at me and gives me the thumbs up. Classic!
 

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Which is, I think, why such things never established themselves in the UK education system. We Brits generally pride ourselves on our individuality, certainly above the age of about 17/18 (below that it's more common to see kids all trying to dress the same, like the same music etc.) it becomes a bit of a competition to be deliberately perverse and go your own way, be it in regard to clothing, hair style and colour, tattoos or piercings, musical taste etc.

I wouldn't argue with many of the mentioned social and cultural observations around the popularity of fraternities in the United States, but there are also practical reasons for their existence. With a decentralized and autonomous university system, no other country has as many large institutions of higher education than the United States. Given the sheer size of many campuses it's understandable why many students seek smaller communities with which they can identify. Attending a large American university is not unlike working for a large corporation, where employees benefit from having strong networking skills. Fraternal organizations facilitate these skills before graduates enter the workforce.
 

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Fair point. I suppose that I also should have pointed out that at most UK universities the students only live on campus (and even then, not all) during their first year. In subsequent years they generally move out into the local community, sharing houses of 4-6 individuals, not necessarily on the same course or even at the same university, if there is more than one in the area.

Even in the first year, students don't necessarily bond with others in their block. When I was at Uni I had very little to do with more than a couple of other students in our residential block (of about 60 lads), spending most of my time with mates in the adjacent block or girls in the block opposite.

I suspect, therefore, that the structure of accommodation in UK universities encourages more individuality and gives less time for a communal bond over several years than the US model.
 

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Fair point. I suppose that I also should have pointed out that at most UK universities the students only live on campus (and even then, not all) during their first year. In subsequent years they generally move out into the local community, sharing houses of 4-6 individuals, not necessarily on the same course or even at the same university, if there is more than one in the area.

Even in the first year, students don't necessarily bond with others in their block. When I was at Uni I had very little to do with more than a couple of other students in our residential block (of about 60 lads), spending most of my time with mates in the adjacent block or girls in the block opposite.

I suspect, therefore, that the structure of accommodation in UK universities encourages more individuality and gives less time for a communal bond over several years than the US model.

Certainly a far more intimate living experience than the US Greek system social stratification model;-)

I wonder if geography plays a role too--more space in the US to construct monster campuses with more housing.

I went to the University of Washington. 35,000 students, high-rise dormotories and one of the larger west coast Greek systems (you might get a kick out of the house profiles).
 

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As somone who is in a fraternity right now, I can assure you that there is no sexual tension amongst any of our rankings. The circle-jerk, gang fuck, and gay orgies are a total farce, and I still have yet to figure out why people tell these stories.

As a Penn State greek, I can tell you that my brothers are a great bunch of people, that's why I joined in the first place. I have many friends outside the fraternity, but the bonds of brotherhood are something that is difficult to understand. You live together, work together, but most of all you party and get drunk together. The stories that float around are hillarious, awesome, and have a twinge of truth in them for everyone in the fraternity as well.

I think of my brothers as my extended family.

I also agree with the post before that said fraternities are a microcosim of society. That is certainly the case in mine.
 

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I can't imagine that I had never seen this thread before. As it happens I was a member of two fraternities the first being at a Quaker college and was a "local" having no ties off-campus. The second was a national Greek organization with a looong history.

I have been amused at the highly opinionated views of some posters here who have stated that certain and varied practices NEVER happened. That may have been true in their time and location but to say it was true everywhere and through all time is totally wrong. The time frame of which I'm writing was in the early 1940's.

Most of the "stunts" were in good humor as I think you'll see. Here are a few which I personally experienced. At the Quaker school we had to go through an initiation. A couple of the required performances were as follows: Two pledges are taken to the showers (no water running)and being stripped of their shorts are positioned facing each other. They are then blindfolded and told to start pissing. The actives in charge then start pumping warm water onto the legs and feet of the pledges and many of them, thinking the other guy IS pissing on them start to reciprocate. This next one was hilarious (to watch). The pledge was made to stand on the edge of a tabletop. He was then handed a solid brick with a heavy cord tied around it that tailed off to a loop. The candidate was then blindfolded after which a loop (NOT the one mentioned above) was slipped over his penis and tightened and he was instructed to drop the brick. It took a long time to get guys to drop the brick and some never did.

At State College in the Greek fraternity the pledges were subjected to so-called midnight raids. The active members would invade the sleeping dorm with lots of noise, get the pledges up and herd them down to the parlor on 1st floor. If there was a roaring fire in the fireplace we knew what we were in for. FIRE DRILL!!! Wearing nothing but shorts we had to crawl up the stairs to the 3rd floor where a nasty concoction of aftershave, talcum powder, mouthwash and who knows what else waited in the lavatory sinks. We had to get a mouthful and crawl headfirst DOWN the stairs, cross to the fireplace and empty our mouths onto the fire with the fruitless hope that we could put it out. Of course, Active members were stationed all along our route to encourge us - - with paddles made from barrrel staves.

Another one that they surprised us with one night was the "elephant walk which began with all the pledges doffing their shorts. Then we were formed into a circle and were instructed to suck on our left thumb. This done we were then told to reach behind and lay hold on that man's dick as we started marching around with the pledge master counting cadence. We kept going faster and faster until he shouted, "CHANGE HANDS"

A fellow pledge and I were out one night working on a pint of bourbon and when we finally went to the frat house, I parked my car in the back. We sat there talking (what DO drunks talk about?) and after a lapse he asked me if I had ever felt a REAL man's cock. I said I wasn't sure but that I might have. He took my hand and laid it in his crotch and there was this good sized erection. He wanted my opinion and I said that it would be easier if I could see it first. He undid his pants and slid them down to show off a banana that curved up to his belly, was fairly thick and long. I agreed with him then that he definitely was a man. As I had expected he asked if I would like his judgment of my wiener and since I had a stony hard on I could see no reason to not. I unzipped and pulled my pants down to release old stony (who was young stony then) and I laid his hand on it. He first felt the thickness and then worked his way up and down the shaft and finally said something like, "You sonuvabitch!! How big is that fucking thing? Pun intended." I told him what my measurments were and he cursed me again for being more than two inches longer than he and fatter too. We continued to fondle and even turned the lights on momentarily for a better look. That was all - no JO or anything.

Above stairs in our frat, nudity going to and from the bathrooms and showers was more the rule than the exception so it wasn't long before my new friend and I were singled out as the biggest cocks in the house. In fact, the last time they held an elephant walk I was removed from the lineup for being too MUCH like an elephant.

The "biggest in the house" title reminds me that I wrote a post several years ago to the effect that until I found LPSG I had thought that I must have the largest package in the world since to that point I had never seen one in the flesh that exceeeded it. I still have not had a "live" sighting but I AM convinced that there are bigger ones - and many of them. But from the last years in elementary school (we had a show and tell club where one other kid and I were the only ones who could "shoot the juice"), junior high gym class, high school gym and swimming (nude), college (fraternity), and Service both as an enlisted man and officer, I was never challenged by anyone claiming to have more than I did. Where have all those biggies been hiding? I have seen a lot of sixes, some six plus, a few sevens, one seven and a half and one eight and one quarter. The really big ones I probably passed on the street and was never aware that they were there.

Gramps
 
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Thanks for the interesting post. This reminds me of something I read a while ago: that, ironically, gay liberation has made straight males more homophobic. I must resign myself to the fact that this statement is going to be flamed, but this is what I heard, and I think it's true.

I read that the reason is this: back when gay people didn't really have rights and were hidden from larger society, the concept of being "gay" didn't really exist. Therefore, straight men could get away with a lot of homoeroticism without it being assumed they were gay, because gay was not really well known back then.

Today, however, while gays are very visible and have more rights (and that's a good thing; I must stress before I get jumped on by someone), straight men are a little more uptight about doing anything that might be seen as "gay." Lately, I hear more and more about how even in gym locker rooms young guys are afraid to shower in front of one another because it is seen as "gay," whereas in the olden days the entire YMCA used to swim naked together. Those were the rules. You had to be nude if you wanted to swim.
 

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Can someone please explain for those outside the US exactly what a fraternity is?

It is a breeding ground for misogyny and suppressed homoeroticism where girls on campus are gang raped as part of hazing rituals.
 

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It is a breeding ground for misogyny and suppressed homoeroticism where girls on campus are gang raped as part of hazing rituals.

Oh shut the fuck up. Go get brainwashed by CSI some more.

Watch Animal House if you want a good idea what fraternities are all about...
 

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Are we talking here about fraternities or sororities. I sense a deep seated anger in your post for which you offer no explanation. It seems odd that you have such a low opinion of fraternities since it would appear obvious that you have never been a member of one. - - - - - - - - HAVE YOU?????

Gramps
 

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Are we talking here about fraternities or sororities. I sense a deep seated anger in your post for which you offer no explanation. It seems odd that you have such a low opinion of fraternities since it would appear obvious that you have never been a member of one. - - - - - - - - HAVE YOU?????

Gramps

Gramps, I'm a PSU greek right now...which fraternity are you an alumni of?
 

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Delta Tau Delta, life member and still in touch (though more and more infrequently) with other alums.

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Delta Tau Delta, life member and still in touch (though more and more infrequently) with other alums.

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OK, very cool. I was there for a rush party my first year.

I'm in Delta Kappa Epsilon. This is our 15th year as a recognized fraternity at PSU. We're relatively new, but expanding rapidly.
 

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I wasnt in one either. Graduated from college 2 yrs ago but have alot of buds who were in them and its safe to say that any stories you do get are probably fake and dick-typed. Real Fraternal brothers never talk about what really happens, if they do its face to face with those they trust. I doubt it would be typed on here for the world to see.

although i'm sure that is partially true there are exceptions. sometimes when one has an experience like that telling other people about how hot it was is a turn on. especially if it is mostly anonymously told.