Fuck George Bush

What do you think of George Bush?

  • Doing great

    Votes: 14 10.4%
  • So so

    Votes: 5 3.7%
  • Could be better

    Votes: 10 7.5%
  • Blows harder than Katrina

    Votes: 105 78.4%

  • Total voters
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folks.. The price of gas has to do with world consumption, nothing else. The U.S. has very little baring in the oil business, because we dont own any oil companies. (Except Marathon and Hess). Our only control is where we do or do not allow drilling.
Also as for the dollars value being tied to the price of oil. umm I think we better re read the chapter on the impact of debt.


agreed, i did not say entirely tho for a reason. i mean, i know that world demand for oil is at 88 billion barrels and we can only produce 85, and i know that Bush doesnt control the oil industry's production or prices, im just saying since that oil is responsible for the main functioning of everyday society in our country, it is fair to say that when oil prices rise due to demand, all other energy related prices also rise. and being that companies arent handing out raises whenever the price of oil rises 10 bucks, it is also safe to say that the value of a dollar has declined because people are still making the same amount of money as they were when oil was at $75 a barrel...and i know there are other factors involved such as the treasury printing more and more money and just throwing it towards foreign countries and national corporations and such, i know our dollar isnt THAT bad, yet, but since its fallin below both the Candian dollar and the Euro, i feel reason enough to bitch about it...just tryin to rebulte lol
 

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"...Look! If you don't like the USA or America or for what it stands for and what you have. Move to Canada or go to Iraq & live, and tell all the people there that you love them and you want to be in there lives, and live as they do. THEN come back, "If they let you", and try posting again.
What America stands for is a government by the people. A government set up by its founding fathers in such a way that the citizens have access to a free press and to free expression. They went out of their way to amend an already excellent Constitution just to make sure that was possible. Their point was to give people an alternative to just leaving a country if they didn't like the policies. Instead, they built in all kinds of mechanisms where the people could change the policies.

What they believed in was that the people would use every means possible to express their opinions and convince each other and their lawmakers to change policies when they didn't like them. The word for it is dissent. And dissent is an almost sacred American duty.

My point is that there is nothing, and I repeat, nothing more un-American than your suggestion of America, Love It or Leave It. What our founding fathers told us was, "America, Love It or Change It." Why do you hate this so much? Why do you hate America so much?
 

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How about this!

"You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and sex offender belonged in the White House."

You can look it up if you forgot where that came from...

You are starting to get a little bit of froth at the corners of your mouth, and you are shrieking a bit. I am starting to get worried about you. Here, take this paper bag and breath into it for a few minutes. I think you will feel better after that.... That's it. Now doesn't that feel better?
 

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...You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.
Actually, Sweden has been a sociali democracy for quite a few years now. Under Olof Palme, it has produced a strong economy from sole proprieterships to multinationas (Saab, Ikea, Ericsson, etc), while maintaining low unemployment, low inflation, low infant mortality, low national debt, low cost of living, all while enjoying sizeable economic growth.

In fact, infant mortality is down at 2.8 deaths/1000 which is only beat by Singapore at 2.3 deaths/1000. While life expectancy in Sweden is 80.6 , which is the fifth highest of all nations, the US has infant mortality at 6.4 percent and life expectancy at 78 years of age.

The World Health Organization ranks Sweden 23rd of all nations in respect to quality of health care, beating the USA which is down around #37.

Does this help with your research?
 

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Assassination of a President of the United States is no laughing matter.

I've removed that option from the poll.
Mr Pecker, Mr Co-Administrator, could you tell thos of us who don't know, how to start a thread. I have some great topics for chat. Thanks a big one.
 

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Mr Pecker, Mr Co-Administrator, could you tell thos of us who don't know, how to start a thread. I have some great topics for chat. Thanks a big one.
If you click on the Et Cetera words above you will be taken to the main board of the Et Cetera forum. At that point go to the words "Thread Starter" and put together your new topic.
 

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What would you expect? That's the American way...
Yeah, and that's why there is going to be a huge Democratic landslide this November. Got to get rid of all elected officials who are anti-people, with anti-people ideology.
 

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The sad thing is things will be worse when the dems get in power. Just look at CA.
That's what happens when wealthy people are not made to pay their fair share in Taxes. They seem to have all the perks in society. We need to run all these fat cats out of the country.
 

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I'm amused at the number of W bumperstickers I still see on cars here in Orange County, CA...Not surprised, but amused. It's hard to imagine that anyone still thinks he's done or is doing this country any good.

Then again, those bumperstickers might be on cars belonging to employees of Halliburton or Blackwater. :rolleyes:

I'm all for seeing him and Cheney stand trial for war crimes, among other things. :mad:
Acouple of years ago, there were quite a few stickers, but now only once in a long while do you see one here in Austin. Whether people like it or not, we are becoming more Liberal here in Austin anyway with all the people moving here from all over the country.
 

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i agree.. i also dont believe in a lot of what he says... but im sure if you dig around on anyone you would find something... i bet obama has even racially spoke about whites or mexicans or something... little issues like that are important morally but it isnt going to affect what he does in office... we need a libertarian..!! we need to curb inflation and end big socialized gov't... national health care would be the end of america if we dont revamp the healthcare system first and if we dont cut spending..

last year canada spent 170 billion on national health for there 30 million people... the US has 10 times more people and our health car cost almost 3 times more!! there is no way we can afford 2-4 trillion dollars..!!

you have to look beyond what the candidates are promising and really try to see if what they say is possible and if they can really do it..!!
We have to get rid of all these insurance companies. They are the ones bleeding our country dry.
 

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we didnt have a yearly deficit... but the dems time in office still raised or total deficit by almost 700 billion ...
Yeah but you've got to remember that Republicans controlled the Congress for most of Bill Clinton's presidency.
 

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folks.. The price of gas has to do with world consumption, nothing else. The U.S. has very little baring in the oil business, because we dont own any oil companies. (Except Marathon and Hess). Our only control is where we do or do not allow drilling.
Also as for the dollars value being tied to the price of oil. umm I think we better re read the chapter on the impact of debt.
If you don't think that these two bumb-fuck oilmen have anything to do with the price of gas, then you are smokin stuff straight from Mexico. lol
 

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This has been making the rounds on the internet, thought I would share. :rolleyes:

NEW BUMPER STICKERS FOR '08:

1. Bush: End of an Error

2. That's OK, I Wasn't Using My Civil Liberties Anyway

3. Let's Fix Democracy in this Country First

4. If You Want a Nation Ruled By Religion, Move to Iran

5. Bush. Like a Rock. Only Dumber.

6. If You Can Read This, You're Not Our President

7. Of Course It Hurts: You're Getting Screwed by an Elephant!

8. Hey, Bush Supporters: Embarrassed Yet?

9. George Bush: Creating the Terrorists Our Kids Will Have to Fight

10. Impeachment: It's Not Just for Blow Jobs Anymore

11. America : One Nation, Under Surveillance

12. They Call Him "W" So He Can Spell It

13. Whose God Do You Kill For?

14. Jail to the Chief

15. No, Seriously, Why Did We Invade Iraq ?

16. Bush: God's Way of Proving Intelligent Design is Full Of Crap

17. Bad President! No Banana.

18. We Need a President Who's Fluent In At Least One Language

19. We're Making Enemies Faster Than We Can Kill Them

20. Is It Vietnam Yet?

21. Bush Doesn't Care About White People, Either

22. Where Are We Going? And Why Are We In This Handbasket?

23. You Elected Him. You Deserve Him.

24. When Bush Took Office, Gas Was $1.46

25. Pray For Impeachment

26. The Republican Party: Our Bridge to the 11th Century

27. What Part of "Bush Lied" Don't You Understand?

28. One Nation Under Clod

29. 2004: Embarrassed. 2005: Horrified. 2006: Terrified

30. Bush Never Exhaled

31 At Least Nixon Resigned
If you like conservatives or conservatism, then move to Russia. Be liberal and live your life like you want to.
 

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"OK!" Than my little princess, in your honest humble intelligent opinion, what could put America back together again?"

"Oh!" - "Duh!" - "Uh!" - "Oh!" What was that? I din't think so...

Look! If you don't like the USA or America or for what it stands for and what you have. Move to Canada or go to Iraq & live, and tell all the people there that you love them and you want to be in there lives, and live as they do. THEN come back, "If they let you", and try posting again.
No, we're not going anywhere. This is our country and we are going to fight and change the ways things are now and the way things are done. We don't have to settle for anything. People are waking up to these reckless morons and are fixing to throw all these bumbs out. This is America and it doesn't belong to corporations and big business.
 

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folks.. The price of gas has to do with world consumption, nothing else. The U.S. has very little baring in the oil business, because we dont own any oil companies. (Except Marathon and Hess). Our only control is where we do or do not allow drilling.
Also as for the dollars value being tied to the price of oil. umm I think we better re read the chapter on the impact of debt.

The largest is Exxon, a US corporation. Also Chevron is US. The US is the largest market. The US military props up pro oil corporation regimes that are anti democratic like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Nigeria, Burma, etc.
 

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I hope that was your idea for a bumpersticker and not directed at me., because if it was, you're preaching to the choir. :eek:
No Willy, not to you buddy. I thought when I pushed the button this would happen. It was an idea for a bumper sticker. In fact I think you should come to Austin and me, my buddy and you could do an allday version of the wild thing. lol Dude, you're hot. lol
 

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How about this!

"You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and sex offender belonged in the White House."

You can look it up if you forgot where that came from...
How about a lying conservative lying to the whole world about everything he says. The man doesn't have a conscience or a soul.