Fuck her in the pussy

[Bardox]

Playing the victim is highly unattractive... you know who you are...

 

[jtm011]

Oh my God, where shall I begin to dissect the errors in logic of this argument. at:

And yeah a prank isn't defined by the person that does it. Not really. If my definition of a prank were to cut the breaks on someone's car (in this scenario i'm a psycho) then i don't think the family of the deceased would be laughing after i get tossed in the clink. Sure, thats an extreme example but hopefully you understand me.

The ones who argue this point always take things to the extreme when no such extreme thing happened in the scenario presented in the original post.

Here's the difference in your example: Cutting the brakes (or "breaks" sic) off someone's car is a criminal act. You would be put in jail, correctly so. However, the Toronto Police full investigated the incident and found that no charges could be laid against this guy (I have already provided the link earlier on in this thread). Therefore, your extreme scenario in no way represents what happened. It's no different than others who suggest that it could have turned into rape but it didn't!

And to be perfectly honest. Yeah it could have escalated. I've seen a lot and i mean a lot of stuff online when it comes to women being critical of men. The reaction from men online in that scenario usually equates to death threats. Then excuses for those death threats. Then men boycotting and generally trying to damage the lives of anyone that even remotely agree's with said women. So no, men like that no longer get that benefit of the doubt from me.

A death threat is a criminal offence and that did not happen. As above, the police investigated the incident and no possible charges could be laid. Furthermore, in this thread it's the people who support Shauna Hunt who do the damaging things to anyone here who even remotely stands against them, not the other way around as you suggest. In fact it's a case of the "victim" becoming the victimizer.

And the Shauna Hunt incident didn't escalate, unlike your example. So why do you live in a constant world of fear like the others? You're living in an imaginary world. If that's the case I would suggest you stay home and never go outside, you may get hit by a car. In fact you should stop typing on your computer right now, you might get electrocuted.

It isn't all men of course but enough to worry about. So long story short, yes it could have escalated to rape. All that would have been needed was that one guy with more than a few screws loose and the reporter to have acted in a way he didn't like.

But it didn't escalate to rape. So what are you suggesting? Criminalize all men because they have the potential to rape a woman? Or are you also in agreement that Shauna Hunt should never go out and do on the street interviews unless accompanied by a man who can protect her from these wild savages of roaming male rapists out there??

 

[deleted924715]

it would have been nice to see bystanders step up and shut this behaviour down instead of standing around to egg him on. Why don't we see men doing this?

I'd guess it's because the people who perpetrate this type of behaviour and the equally sinister people who will go to great lengths to attribute any offence or intimidation caused to a character flaw of the women involved have their bias so deeply ingrained that any attempt to instill respect feels innately wrong to them. So much so that they will vehemently defend their position. Kind of like the reaction you would get if you went up to someone in the park and demanded they say 'please' to their dog when asking for the stick.

These are the same people who will start slinging the 'White Knight' insult at men who object to their behaviour, because in their view any men who step in are only objecting to ingratitate themselves with the goal of fucking the woman/women involved... because you are right, those people and their defenders do reduce women to a 'hole'. It's not a harmless prank, it is rooted in misogyny and it is so hard to address that behaviour because the prism through which these people view the world is so tainted.

I agree with the poster who said that correction is most effective by other males at a formative age, but I think the window of opportunity, unfortunately, can be lost. See this thread for proof.

This is why although for the most part this thread is depressing reading, it warms my heart to see the men who obviously do get it and are willing to stand up to the misogynists despite the fact they know they are beating their heads against a brick wall. Thanks you guys... I just wish there were more of you.

 

[ronin001]

I saw the Video clip, As a Human Being, it just pissed me off listening to the A-hole in the black shirt starts it and one or 2 others sort of back up his actions as funny.

A few guys here deserved a well earned smack in the mouth, if not an old fashioned Beat Down.

 

[jtm011]

A few guys here deserved a well earned smack in the mouth, if not an old fashioned Beat Down.

Yes so let's take a verbal saying copied from the Internet and turn it into physical assault here. Brilliant!

And yet some of you here don't understand why I say that it seems if some of us don't all agree with you, then you turn into a totalitarian, Big Brother, Nazi mob wanting everyone to convert to your way of thinking, and by force!

I think a few people here on the other side of the argument need a few years of therapy to get over their unreasonable fears of "what might happen" "if things escalate" and their desires to do physical harm to those that don't agree with their flawed way of thinking.

 

[ronin001]

Yes so let's take a verbal saying copied from the Internet and turn it into physical assault here. Brilliant!

Actually it was not a verbal saying, it was Harassment bordering on verbal assault. Both actions are against the laws of Canada and the USA.

The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil or stupidity is for Good Men / women to Do Nothing about it. Respect of our fellow human beings Male or Female should be a given thing.

I appreciate your opinion and will indeed ponder on your words

 

[jtm011]

Actually it was not a verbal saying, it was Harassment bordering on verbal assault. Both actions are against the laws of Canada and the USA.

Really smarty?? So why is it that the Toronto Police investigated the incident fully and found no possible charges could be laid against the guy? Are you just conveniently leaving that out or do you admit that your entire premise is wrong and based on false information??

You people can't win this because all your arguments are faulty.

I appreciate your opinion and will indeed ponder on your words

The only thing you need to ponder is why you think assaulting someone physically is a good response. You are dead wrong on that.

As in this case, the "victim" becomes the victimizer. Here is what you wrote:

A few guys here deserved a well earned smack in the mouth, if not an old fashioned Beat Down.

Why won't your side just understand you don't have a leg to stand on? None of your arguments have stood the test of logic.

 

[ronin001]

Yes the person may have not been prosecuted by the Criminal branch of law enforcement, He can and would most likely loose if Subjected to the Civil branch of the legal system. This is where most Sexual and Harassment type cases are reviewed at least in the USA

PS: JTM, I have no side

I only stated my opinion and you took it upon yourself to dissect and comment on my posting. Glad to see you have this kind of time and a life that permits you to focus on the ramblings of this Adult site. I am done with this thread, have a good life, better yet get a life.

Peace

 

[jtm011]

Yes the person may have not been prosecuted by the Criminal branch of law enforcement, He can and would most likely loose if Subjected to the Civil branch of the legal system. This is where most Sexual and Harassment type cases are reviewed at least in the USA

First of all you're making supposition. Second of all you're now contradicting yourself where you said earlier this person committed harassment "against the laws of Canada and the USA" which is criminal.

Third, this is Canada. This is not the US where a person gets a $2 million judgement against McDonald's for spilling hot coffee in their lap. In Canada, the judge would get up off the bench and slap you in the face for being an idiot. In the US they just sue.

PS: JTM, I have no side

When I mentioned people of that side I meant several posters here not just directly you.

I only stated my opinion and you took it upon yourself to dissect and comment on my posting. Glad to see you have this kind of time and a life that permits you to focus on the ramblings of this Adult site. I am done with this thread, have a good life, better yet get a life.

Peace

You're the one who responded back to me so don't be so cocky or holier than thou.

 

[MickeyLee]

you've spent this much of your life defending an obscenity spewing douche bag and the right to dehumanize women?

dude, you need a hobby.
or a friend.

 

[jtm011]

you've spent this much of your life defending an obscenity spewing douche bag and the right to dehumanize women?

I think I'm going to open a reading comprehension school for people on this site.

I'm not defending him. I said he's vulgar, juvenile and a moron. Perhaps you could stop wasting my time and yours and just read through the thread first before shooting your venom.

 

[798686]

I saw the Video clip, As a Human Being, it just pissed me off listening to the A-hole in the black shirt starts it and one or 2 others sort of back up his actions as funny.

A few guys here deserved a well earned smack in the mouth, if not an old fashioned Beat Down.

I agree. :tongue:

I think a bit of good old fashioned physical violence works a treat sometimes. :biggrin1:

I do despair of this thread generally tho, the fact I wince with dread before popping on to see what's been written probably means it's not worth the time of day now (in terms of the arguments, not the original debate).

 

[798686]

@JTM - whether you're wrong or right, which is open to interpretation, you're getting nowhere here, buddy.

I'm not trying to cause offence, but I'd consider calling it a day and moving on to another topic instead. Jus' sayin.

 

[jtm011]

@JTM - whether you're wrong or right, which is open to interpretation, you're getting nowhere here, buddy.

I'm not trying to cause offence, but I'd consider calling it a day and moving on to another topic instead. Jus' sayin.

Why, because you said so? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, isn't it? And everyone is entitled to mutual respect but clearly those that support the OP do not respect the opinions of those that disagree with them and that is abundantly clear here.

And don't forget, you're one of a couple of people here posting that you believe assault and violence is a good solution against someone merely repeating a vulgar saying from the Internet on camera:

I think a bit of good old fashioned physical violence works a treat sometimes. :biggrin1:

 

[798686]

And everyone is entitled to mutual respect...

I would agree with that.

And don't forget, you're one of a couple of people here posting that you believe assault and violence is a good solution against someone merely repeating a vulgar saying from the Internet on camera:

So? :smile:

It was actually said tongue-in-cheek, on a number of occasions, but you obviously didn't pic up on that. :wink:

 

[jtm011]

It was actually said tongue-in-cheek, on a number of occasions, but you obviously didn't pic up on that. :wink:

Oh but FHRITP can't be equally said tongue-in-cheek. Ok got it.

 

[798686]

Oh but FHRITP can't be equally said tongue-in-cheek. Ok got it.

Hmm, well one is in response to the other, obviously.

Slap Him Right In The Face probably wouldn't work quite so well as a stand-alone insult. Much like FHRITP, I would think. :wink:

I'll leave to you have the last word, anyway - I notice you enjoy that.

 

[ronin001]

:smile: Jolly

 

[Betty_Cocker]

Update:

Toronto police say they’re not charging hecklers of on-air reporter

Toronto police say they’re not charging hecklers of on-air reporter - The Globe and Mail

Dismissal of Hydro One staffer could lead to severance payout

Dismissal of Hydro One staffer could lead to severance payout - The Globe and Mail

Good job Shauna Cunt. Hydro One, a public utility and the man's employer who immediately fired him in a knee jerk (idiotic) reaction, will most likely have to pay this man severance because clearly he was let go for something in his personal life. Hydro One will probably make a settlement before it hits court. And because it's a public utility, we the TAXPAYER are going to have to pay the bill. Plus he won't get charged for anything. Good job Shauna!

When you first posted this, I clicked the link to read the police report. The only reports I find that you linked are the dismissal of the Staffer (2nd link) and Man Apologizes to Shauna Hunt (1st link). I see nothing about a police report. I've checked it a few times throughout your tirade. Still, no police investigation report. Would you please find that link and re-send? Thank you.

Third, this is Canada. This is not the US where a person gets a $2 million judgement against McDonald's for spilling hot coffee in their lap. In Canada, the judge would get up off the bench and slap you in the face for being an idiot. In the US they just sue.

You're the one who responded back to me so don't be so cocky or holier than thou.

And don't forget, you're one of a couple of people here posting that you believe assault and violence is a good solution against someone merely repeating a vulgar saying from the Internet on camera:

....along with some of your Canadian judges as you pointed out in the previous post! (Now, if you make an attempt to say that you were simply exaggerating to make a point (or tongue in cheek) ... don't bother. You've used every argument to tear apart and dissect comments of a similar vein by other posters.)

And the reading comprehension class? Perhaps you should be the first one to sign up for it. You've been ingenious at twisting comments. "Never" and "always" are not the same as "some, many, or rare few."

Reading this thread makes me sad. You were the first to start with the name-calling, continued it through-out the thread. Your snide remarks are pitiful. The very first condescending remarks came from your posts, yet you cry foul every time someone dishes out to you the same behavior.

You will have the last say, because I, too, am done with you. You will never convince me that "FHRITP" is simply "words without intent" and merely a childish prank. It's just wrong. On levels that you just simply do not understand. (And, of course, I expect you to fall back on your "I'm just living in fear...yadda yadda crap." )

 

[jtm011]

Note to all of you that I chose not to answer the previous two posts before this one because I said let you both have the last word but yet again someone like Betty_Cocker chooses to ask me back in the mix.

When you first posted this, I clicked the link to read the police report. The only reports I find that you linked are the dismissal of the Staffer (2nd link) and Man Apologizes to Shauna Hunt (1st link). I see nothing about a police report. I've checked it a few times throughout your tirade. Still, no police investigation report. Would you please find that link and re-send? Thank you.

Gladly. The original article has been updated by the newspaper and now the link points to a different story. A simple Google search came up with the original news piece from another media outlet:

Police not charging hecklers who yelled vulgar phrase at Toronto reporter | CTV News

Reading this thread makes me sad. You were the first to start with the name-calling, continued it through-out the thread. Your snide remarks are pitiful. The very first condescending remarks came from your posts, yet you cry foul every time someone dishes out to you the same behavior.

Betty, your facts are wrong. I never started by name-calling or making condescending remarks to anyone in this thread. The only negative name I used was to Shauna Hunt at the beginning and even I stopped doing that early on. It was I who received condescending remarks from others because I didn't agree with their warped point of view that twisted reality so far away from what actually happened.

You can view this story however you want, but the truth is that I presented the facts and the evidence of what happened not what "might have happened" which did not happen.

Stick with the facts and you'll see these arguments you hold so dearly fall very quickly to pieces.