Fuck her in the pussy

[jtm011]

You have not refuted a single thing. You choose to focus on one aspect that no one else is talking about. Your entire purpose seems to be to convince people that this wasn't directed at Shauna Hunt in particular. No one, besides you, talks about whether this is the case or not because it's irrelevant. You've built your entire argument around this. And because the intent of the words doesn't make the words any less harmful, no one wants to take this stupid debate with you. That is why no one cares about your the your point about some guy, his wife and their idiot son. It doesn't matter.

So you choose to live in a world where women and men are equally objectified and equally vulnerable to rape. I think women in general wish they had that choice... I really want to say something condescending or downright insulting here, but you seem to be overly sensitive, so I'll hold back. Doesn't that speak volumes about my character?

Really? Are you going to go there? Even though you say "no one wants to take this stupid debate with you", clearly you're the one who wants to debate me to no end. I've refuted the points and given examples that punch holes in the baseless arguments.

Now you want to talk about rape? What planet are we living on? When did this stupid saying ever escalate into rape? Or are you just afraid that it might?

Seriously... Read this again jtm011. You can't be a proud father of those words...

Keep reading my words over again until you understand them.
1. Clearly you too live in world of fear where women are weak and vulnerable.
2. I believe in a world where women are intelligent and empowered.
3. In my world women and men are equal.
4. I don't let my mind play tricks on me thinking that a stupid prank from a moron can be extrapolated into a rape scene.

The problem with those who see fear in this is that you are under a paradigm that women are weak and victimized. Why can't women be equal and strong?

And by the way, that's what I teach my daughter. The concept that women are anything other than equal and strong isn't even considered.

 

[jaap_stam]

How about spiritual? :biggrin1:

Sorry, couldn't resist. No insult intended.

Actually, I didn't mean corporal punishment necessarily. In fact, I would prefer to avoid it. What I mean is that children be raised with boundaries to teach good behavior. Some form of meaninful punishment must be used to modify bad behavior. It most likely will involve losing privileges (TV, phone, computer, etc.) Does it work 100%? Nope, but it's far better than raising kids to believe they can do/say whatever pleases them. I'd say Ayn Rand has had an effect on society's selfishness but to do so would credit her "objectivism" with a legitimacy I don't believe it has. Probably Dr. Spock (not the Vulcan) and his permissive child-rearing concepts, coupled with babysitting-by-television, have been a couple of the most significant influences on youthful behavior in America since WWII.

Interesting thought. Have you done much research on this topic? I'd be interested in seeing some papers that explore that in depth. Having two immigrant parents, I can't say I really know what the popular modes were in France or England growing up.

 

[Brisler]

Really? Are you going to go there? Even though you say "no one wants to take this stupid debate with you", clearly you're the one who wants to debate me to no end. I've refuted the points and given examples that punch holes in the baseless arguments.

Now you want to talk about rape? What planet are we living on? When did this stupid saying ever escalate into rape? Or are you just afraid that it might?



Keep reading my words over again until you understand them.
1. Clearly you too live in world of fear where women are weak and vulnerable.
2. I believe in a world where women are intelligent and empowered.
3. In my world women and men are equal.
4. I don't let my mind play tricks on me thinking that a stupid prank from a moron can be extrapolated into a rape scene.

The problem with those who see fear in this is that you are under a paradigm that women are weak and victimized. Why can't women be equal and strong?

And by the way, that's what I teach my daughter. The concept that women are anything other than equal and strong isn't even considered.

The debate I don't want to take with you is the one about that family you keep rambling about, because it has no relevance.

And as for the second part, you choose to live in your own little world where men and women are treated as equals on all levels (to be able to sit on your ass and accept misogyny, I imagine), I choose to join the fight for a world where it is indeed so.

What happens then when or if your daughter comes home and tells you that she was discriminated against, assaulted or worse for no other reason than being a woman? "I will hear of no such thing! Men and women are equal in my world, quit being sensitive, chin up and go out and harass some men!"?

 

[944592]

Interesting thought. Have you done much research on this topic? I'd be interested in seeing some papers that explore that in depth. Having two immigrant parents, I can't say I really know what the popular modes were in France or England growing up.

No research here, just my opinion and those of a few friends, all American, reflecting on our experience as children and parents over the last 60-70 years.

 

[Serial Kisser]

Guys .... you're all feeding the troll. Stahp.

 

[jtm011]

The debate I don't want to take with you is the one about that family you keep rambling about, because it has no relevance.

Again you prove my point. You just love to debate me yet you say no one wants to debate me.

And that Cronin video does have relevance because there are people here who say that man in the Shauna Hunt video sexually harassed her and intended it as a provocation for men to "fuck her right in the pussy" when no such thing was the case. This is proven by the Cronin video. The son was just repeating a common saying FHRITP as a prank and it was not directly to and had no inference to the only woman present in the video, his mother.

This alone completely weakens and obliterates the arguments against the original video and what transpired.

And as for the second part, you choose to live in your own little world where men and women are treated as equals on all levels

Exactly. Read that again and let it sink in.

What happens then when or if your daughter comes home and tells you that she was discriminated against, assaulted or worse for no other reason than being a woman? "I will hear of no such thing! Men and women are equal in my world, quit being sensitive, chin up and go out and harass some men!"?

How inane? Do you think I was never discriminated against? I've heard racist comments and have had racist comments hurled at me. Are you saying that sexism is more important than racism? The issue is what you make of those comments. Do you let them affect you? Do you internalize them? I choose not to. Shauna Hunt and her defenders here choose to internalize them, weakening themselves and women all over by accepting that this makes them weak and vulnerable to men.

 

[Heat]

The men featured in the video and who do this are fucking little dicked creeps. If someone did it to their sister or mother they'd have a goddamn nervous breakdown.
If she really wanted to humiliate those punks she should have said, "Okay, let's fuck. Pull out your tiny dick and if it's more than 4 inches we'll fuck. If you're not willing to be a man about it, then fuck off."

 

[Brisler]

Again you prove my point. You just love to debate me yet you say no one wants to debate me.

And that Cronin video does have relevance because there are people here who say that man in the Shauna Hunt video sexually harassed her and intended it as a provocation for men to "fuck her right in the pussy" when no such thing was the case. This is proven by the Cronin video. The son was just repeating a common saying FHRITP as a prank and it was not directly to and had no inference to the only woman present in the video, his mother.

This alone completely weakens and obliterates the arguments against the original video and what transpired.



Exactly. Read that again and let it sink in.



How inane? Do you think I was never discriminated against? I've heard racist comments and have had racist comments hurled at me. Are you saying that sexism is more important than racism? The issue is what you make of those comments. Do you let them affect you? Do you internalize them? I choose not to. Shauna Hunt and her defenders here choose to internalize them, weakening themselves and women all over by accepting that this makes them weak and vulnerable to men.

Okay, this tipped it over the edge. I have agree with SerialKisser. If you are not a troll, you are extremely dimwitted.

If you in fact do have a daughter, I sincerely hope she has a strong and sensible mother, 'cause she sure as hell has a weak ass father. It is because of men like you that some women are better off not reporting cases of rape. Congrats, sir, you are part of the problem.

 

[jtm011]

The men featured in the video and who do this are fucking little dicked creeps. If someone did it to their sister or mother they'd have a goddamn nervous breakdown.
If she really wanted to humiliate those punks she should have said, "Okay, let's fuck. Pull out your tiny dick and if it's more than 4 inches we'll fuck. If you're not willing to be a man about it, then fuck off."

Ok this is hilarious - some people here claim what these guys did was sexual harassment and so here is an answer that turns a prank into a true form of sexual harassment - and clearly no one on Shauna Hunt's side sees anything wrong with it. Of course.

 

[jtm011]

Guys .... you're all feeding the troll. Stahp.

Okay, this tipped it over the edge. I have agree with SerialKisser. If you are not a troll, you are extremely dimwitted.

If you in fact do have a daughter, I sincerely hope she has a strong and sensible mother, 'cause she sure as hell has a weak ass father. It is because of men like you that some women are better off not reporting cases of rape. Congrats, sir, you are part of the problem.

And there you go Brisler, when you can't debate using logic you revert back again to rude and condescending remarks. You've done it before and now you do it again. Furthermore, you are now equating a prank that's rampant on the Internet into a form of rape.

I won't even respond to Serial Kisser because calling someone like me who defends a position with facts, logic and links as proof a troll is not only insulting, it is intellectually bankrupt and vacuous.

The bottom line is this - it seems there is no room for intellectual debate here. We seem to live in a society where people have become so narrow minded that they only can see those that share their political viewpoint on an issue. The rest of us who disagree with the original post of this thread are to be verbally abused even though our attackers are same people who criticize the verbal abuse outlined in the video. Proof, logic, links are meaningless, and when you can't win a debate then attack the other side. You worry about the potential of a herd mentality attacking women but you really have shown the same herd mentality here in your attacks and arguments.

This really is like living in a Big Brother society. If you don't agree with the Nazi thought police here, then get ready to be attacked and insulted and your point of view thrown aside.

 

[Brisler]

Quit whining. Seriously, dry your tears and man up. You lost, fair and square. Stop playing the poor little victim. It's quite pathetic.

 

[jtm011]

Sorry Brisler, the fact is you lost. You can't debate. You avoid every argument when you're proven wrong, then you attack the person personally talking about my daughter etc.

You say you don't want to debate but you keep debating me, coming back for more.

You attack me by calling me a troll and yet you keep coming back for more.

Sorry I'm not sorry I don't share your narrow and incorrect views of this subject.

You were proven wrong and everyone here voicing the same opinion as the OP were proven wrong as well because their "fears" of "what might happen" never panned out.

But go ahead attack me more. It seems to feed your weak personal insecurities.

 

[Brisler]

Did I hurt you really bad? If so, I'll be willing to give you an apology.

 

[Bardox]

So the discussion has been reduced to name calling and insults?... that didn't take long.

 

[Matt_x]

Sorry Brisler, the fact is you lost. You can't debate. You avoid every argument when you're proven wrong, then you attack the person personally talking about my daughter etc.

You say you don't want to debate but you keep debating me, coming back for more.

You attack me by calling me a troll and yet you keep coming back for more.

Sorry I'm not sorry I don't share your narrow and incorrect views of this subject.

You were proven wrong and everyone here voicing the same opinion as the OP were proven wrong as well because their "fears" of "what might happen" never panned out.

But go ahead attack me more. It seems to feed your weak personal insecurities.

Here is a tip for you....

There is nothing to win when someone starts a discussion, but rather a medium to communicate their personal thoughts. It's clear you are unwilling to yield and accept or carefully review our concerns and spew this dialect of how you hold the facts. Arrogance much?

Know when you are wrong, is key.

Its unfortunate that your single-issue drum beating has incited the masses and turned it volatile. i sincerely hope you reconsider your post demeanor.. counting your blessings will only catch up to you sooner or later.

 

[798686]

I don't know which is worse - the current argument, or FHRITP. :tongue:

 

[Serial Kisser]

Guys .... you're all feeding the troll. Stahp.

And there you go Brisler, when you can't debate using logic you revert back again to rude and condescending remarks. You've done it before and now you do it again. Furthermore, you are now equating a prank that's rampant on the Internet into a form of rape.

I won't even respond to Serial Kisser because calling someone like me who defends a position with facts, logic and links as proof a troll is not only insulting, it is intellectually bankrupt and vacuous.

The bottom line is this - it seems there is no room for intellectual debate here. We seem to live in a society where people have become so narrow minded that they only can see those that share their political viewpoint on an issue. The rest of us who disagree with the original post of this thread are to be verbally abused even though our attackers are same people who criticize the verbal abuse outlined in the video. Proof, logic, links are meaningless, and when you can't win a debate then attack the other side. You worry about the potential of a herd mentality attacking women but you really have shown the same herd mentality here in your attacks and arguments.

This really is like living in a Big Brother society. If you don't agree with the Nazi thought police here, then get ready to be attacked and insulted and your point of view thrown aside.

Interesting that I didn't name drop ANYONE yet you feel that my comment was aimed at you.

 

[Bardox]

I don't know which is worse - the current argument, or FHRITP. :tongue:

Could be worse. Instead of FHRITP, it couldd have been FHRITA. Thank god good taste prevailed.:1244:

 

[798686]

Could be worse. Instead of FHRITP, it couldd have been FHRITA. Thank god good taste prevailed.:1244:

:tongue:

 

[ClawdineKitten]

Well this escalated quickly, I look away for 1 minute and it's like a full blown knock down bar fight in here XD j/k.... but yea.

I agree with the person who said they should stop giving the "pranksters" the attention that they are seeking so badly. It's like those kids who were going around punching elderly people to try and knock them out. That is not a prank, it isn't funny. How about that prank, kids building chemical bombs in plastic soda bottles that blow up in your face when you try to pick the trash up from your yard? Again horrible prank, it's disfigured a few people on top of that. Pranks have been getting out of control. And it seems the ones doing the so called pranks are by kids of all ages who can't seem to grow up.