Fuck her in the pussy

[Betty_Cocker]

Well this escalated quickly, I look away for 1 minute and it's like a full blown knock down bar fight in here XD j/k.... but yea.

I agree with the person who said they should stop giving the "pranksters" the attention that they are seeking so badly. It's like those kids who were going around punching elderly people to try and knock them out. That is not a prank, it isn't funny. How about that prank, kids building chemical bombs in plastic soda bottles that blow up in your face when you try to pick the trash up from your yard? Again horrible prank, it's disfigured a few people on top of that. Pranks have been getting out of control. And it seems the ones doing the so called pranks are by kids of all ages who can't seem to grow up.

Yep, exactly

I think we need a new definition of "prank" it is no longer putting tape on the toilet seat (now it's superglue).


And along the "debate" issue. There used to be a saying "Sticks and stones can break my bones but words will never hurt me." Well, we all grew up and realized that words can be more painful that the sticks and stones. These words (and we can argue "intent" vs. "reception" until we are blue in the face) are inappropriate... anywhere except in the heat of passion... MAAAYBEE.

 

[Fuzzy_]

It seems to me that we live in a society where too many boys were brought up never hearing from father/brother/other male authority figure, "Don't you EVER talk to your mother/sister/girlfriend/(or any other human being) like that again or I will (insert meaningful consequences here that WILL be carried through with)!

Fuzzy agrees. It seems that boys need to hear this stuff from men for it to really sink in.

 

[Crowe]

I haven't read all of the posts in the thread but I'd like to share my opinion on it too.
As someone has said before it all originated from a news report where a male person said some things he clearly should not have said on tv, or at all. He was fired, but that was the trigger for another middle aged man to shout "Fuck her right in the pussy" at journalists. I can clearly say that the man is just trying to be funny and mock the American news programs, even though it does affect the journalists. This man tried to do this on several occasions and succeeded and even the videos became viral on the internet. That was the trigger for more people doing it all over the world.
And this might be an opinion that most of the people don't like, but I really don't think these people are there to insult women at all, just trying to mimic and be funny towards their friends and the viewers.

Reason I said to mock the American news programs is, here in most of Europe things like that can be said on TV without making a big problem out of it.

 

[TexanStar]

I haven't read all of the posts in the thread but I'd like to share my opinion on it too.
As someone has said before it all originated from a news report where a male person said some things he clearly should not have said on tv, or at all. He was fired, but that was the trigger for another middle aged man to shout "Fuck her right in the pussy" at journalists. I can clearly say that the man is just trying to be funny and mock the American news programs, even though it does affect the journalists. This man tried to do this on several occasions and succeeded and even the videos became viral on the internet. That was the trigger for more people doing it all over the world.
And this might be an opinion that most of the people don't like, but I really don't think these people are there to insult women at all, just trying to mimic and be funny towards their friends and the viewers.

Reason I said to mock the American news programs is, here in most of Europe things like that can be said on TV without making a big problem out of it.

There was no reporter who got fired. That was a guy doing a hoax.

There was no middle aged man yelling it, that was also a hoax perpetrated by the same guy who played the reporter.

There were dumbasses copying it. There's a difference between trying to be funny, and being funny though. I mentioned earlier, but for someone (myself) who was unfamiliar with the theme, it comes across as a threat, not a joke. It also interrupts people trying to do their jobs, puts inappropriate language on TV, etc. And based on the experience communicated by the reporter at question, it's something that's really only being done to female reporters, not male ones.

 

[Crowe]

There was no reporter who got fired. That was a guy doing a hoax.

There was no middle aged man yelling it, that was also a hoax perpetrated by the same guy who played the reporter.

There were dumbasses copying it. There's a difference between trying to be funny, and being funny though. I mentioned earlier, but for someone (myself) who was unfamiliar with the theme, it comes across as a threat, not a joke. It also interrupts people trying to do their jobs, puts inappropriate language on TV, etc. And based on the experience communicated by the reporter at question, it's something that's really only being done to female reporters, not male ones.

That's quite obvious though, I don't know the exact statistics but I can say that almost all of the reporters in America are female and since the "funny" message is "Fuck her right in the pussy" it's kinda odd to do that to a man.
I'm for equality between male and females but sometimes I think that people try to find excuses to make things unfair towards a certain gender.
Even though that's my opinion, I don't approve what people do, nor find it funny at all.

 

[AlteredEgo]

That's quite obvious though, I don't know the exact statistics but I can say that almost all of the reporters in America are female and since the "funny" message is "Fuck her right in the pussy" it's kinda odd to do that to a man.
I'm for equality between male and females but sometimes I think that people try to find excuses to make things unfair towards a certain gender.
Even though that's my opinion, I don't approve what people do, nor find it funny at all.

Our reporters are not almost all female.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...y-a-male-dominated-field-the-numbers-say-yes/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...l-underrepresented-in-newsroom_n_3579880.html

http://wmc.3cdn.net/6dd3de8ca65852dbd4_fjm6yck9o.pdf

http://www.womensmediacenter.com/press/entry/wmc-research-on-gender-bias-in-major-us-media

 

[TexanStar]

Our reporters are not almost all female.

Is journalism really a male-dominated field? The numbers say yes. - The Washington Post

Women Journalists Still Underrepresented In The Newsroom, Study Finds

http://wmc.3cdn.net/6dd3de8ca65852dbd4_fjm6yck9o.pdf

WMC’s Research Shines Light on Gender Bias in Major U.S. Broadcast, Print, Online, & Wire Outlets | Women's Media Center

And the gender distribution is getting somewhat worse over time. Nice.

 

[Brisler]

And this might be an opinion that most of the people don't like, but I really don't think these people are there to insult women at all, just trying to mimic and be funny towards their friends and the viewers.

This has been said over and over again, and I promise that this is the last time I'll repeat it. If the words are interpreted as a thread, an insult or harassment, it doesn't matter if it was intended as such. The outcome of the words is determined by the interpretations. This goes for all communication.

 

[vince]

And this might be an opinion that most of the people don't like, but I really don't think these people are there to insult women at all, just trying to mimic and be funny towards their friends and the viewers.

I think they know very well that it's offensive and that giving offense is what they find amusing. It's their intent to be funny while giving offense and they know very well that it gets under people's skin and that is the reason they do it. Why else would some men continue to shout it out after they've been asked not to? It's a very old and low form of humour.

*not directed @johnconra*... Some may explain this behavior as a "prank" or a "political viewpoint", but that's just BS. If you've been told it's offensive, then be a gentleman and stop excusing it. Just because you don't think it's such a big deal or that someone else is overreacting, does not change the fact that they do feel awful about it. You don't get to tell other people what their feelings should be and you don't know what their histories may be, so do the decent thing and shut the fuck up.

 

[Bardox]

FHRITP is nothing more than an elaborate FU or in this case F "her". It's not a threat. It doesn't objectify anyone. It's just an insult from a random asshole who wanted to be on TV. And he got his wish along with a handsome severance package apparently.

 

[lolw]

Many fascist pigs.

 

[Serial Kisser]

FHRITP is nothing more than an elaborate FU or in this case F "her". It's not a threat. It doesn't objectify anyone. It's just an insult from a random asshole who wanted to be on TV. And he got his wish along with a handsome severance package apparently.

YOU don't get to say what does and doesn't objectify women. YOU are not a woman. You don't get to say what's insulting to other people and what isn't. Especially in the WOMENS issues section... cmon now.

Just because it isn't insulting to you and doesn't objectify YOU doesn't mean other people aren't affected by it.

 

[Bardox]

YOU don't get to say what does and doesn't objectify women.

I can and did. You may disagree with my assessment, but do not attempt to tell me what I can and cannot say.

YOU are not a woman.

True, but a vagina is not required to engage in conversation.

You don't get to say what's insulting to other people and what isn't. Especially in the WOMENS issues section... cmon now.

The "Women's Issues" section in not the "Ask a Woman" section. You will find guys here occasionally posting opinions that may not mesh yours.... c'mon now.

Just because it isn't insulting to you and doesn't objectify YOU doesn't mean other people aren't affected by it.

I can see people are being affected, but it's being blown out of proportion and taken as something far more personal than it was ever meant to. It was a meme, a prank, a joke, a bad childish vulgar joke, but still a joke. Raising a stink over it isn't going to stop anyone who was going to do it. If anything, it would only encourage them, because now they knew they will get international exposure.

The only way FHRITP stops is by starving it of oxygen. Don't show it on camera, don't write columns or blogs or tweets or threads about it, and just let it die. It will get old and our more annoying drunken football loving brethren will move on to something else equally (if not more) idiotic than this.

 

[AlteredEgo]

You may say whatever you like, Bardox, but you may not dictate anyone else's emotional or visceral response, not effectively, anyway.

 

[43698]

No MattX western society is not teaching me to buy, sell, and trade wives like livestock. I was saying that is what goes on in some other places of the world. I have lived in 13 different countries and I have seen a lot of shit. Some good some bad and some just strange when it comes to their social classes and order of their societies. Things people complain about or even get outraged about in western/modern society are honestly rediculous. Of course opinions are subjective. I am blown away but some of the things I read in this thread. I did not just read one post and make a judgement. I have read a good bit of it. Much of it is just people that are not going to agree and rightfully should not. The fact is, and some of you will hate this; neither side of this argument is wrong or right. Of course I agree with one side more than the other but I don't care to share my opinion. This a very political debate. What I will say is that I don't know tooNy strong people that get butt hurt over some dumbass on a video.

 

[Serial Kisser]

FHRITP is nothing more than an elaborate FU or in this case F "her". It's not a threat. It doesn't objectify anyone. It's just an insult from a random asshole who wanted to be on TV. And he got his wish along with a handsome severance package apparently.

I can and did. You may disagree with my assessment, but do not attempt to tell me what I can and cannot say.


True, but a vagina is not required to engage in conversation.


The "Women's Issues" section in not the "Ask a Woman" section. You will find guys here occasionally posting opinions that may not mesh yours.... c'mon now.


I can see people are being affected, but it's being blown out of proportion and taken as something far more personal than it was ever meant to. It was a meme, a prank, a joke, a bad childish vulgar joke, but still a joke. Raising a stink over it isn't going to stop anyone who was going to do it. If anything, it would only encourage them, because now they knew they will get international exposure.

The only way FHRITP stops is by starving it of oxygen. Don't show it on camera, don't write columns or blogs or tweets or threads about it, and just let it die. It will get old and our more annoying drunken football loving brethren will move on to something else equally (if not more) idiotic than this.

You do not dictate what people find objectifying or offensive. JUST BECAUSE ITS NOT OFFENSIVE TO YOU doesn't mean it's not offensive. Ew. Get out.

 

[Bardox]

You may say whatever you like, Bardox, but you may not dictate anyone else's emotional or visceral response, not effectively, anyway.

You do not dictate what people find objectifying or offensive. JUST BECAUSE ITS NOT OFFENSIVE TO YOU doesn't mean it's not offensive. Ew. Get out.

Have I told anyone what to "feel"? Please show me where I did that? I myself do find FHRITP to be offensive, but not on the personal level some here seem to be taking it. You can take it as a personal assault if you want, but that's not what it was. Even in the OP's example, it was not directed specifically at Shauna Hunt. Any reporter, at that specific place at that specific time, would have gotten the same reaction. Change one word and it's an omnigendered insult.

If you want to take FHRITP as something that shakes the foundation of who and what you are reducing your self-image to a body cavity, then by all means go ahead. Charge! Just know that you're wrong. It was a dumb, childish, vulgar, lewd, asinine prank designed to get a laugh out of some drunken soccer hooligans. It's bad, but not as bad as some are making it out be.

 

[wallyj84]

Man, this thread really blew up.

 

[lofty01]

Intent, whether you understand it or not, is the only measure of whether this was sexual harassment, and clearly by example you can see that this was nothing more than a juvenile prank and not sexual harassment. The Toronto Police, even after thoroughly investigating the incident, found no reasonable grounds for charges. It's a prank. Get over it.

I'm not sure what the discrimination laws are like in other countries, but here in Australia the Sex Discrimination Act stipulates that sexual harassment has occurred in circumstances in which a reasonable person, given all the circumstances, would anticipate the possibility of the person harassed being offended, humiliated, or intimidated because of the conduct. I think it's fairly reasonable to say that Shauna Hunt would have been, at best, offended by the incident.

The Act also states that it is not the intention of the person accused of sexual harassment that determines whether sexual harassment has occurred. It is the perception of the recipient of that conduct that determines whether the matter is considered by them to be sexual harassment. So for those who believe that intent "is the only measure of whether this was sexual harassment", maybe don't plan on practicing law here in Australia.

Also, sexual harassment is quite a separate matter from criminal conduct. Sexual harassment is still sexual harassment, even if it is not deemed to be a criminal offence.

I've read through the thread for a second time and I have not seen any posters say that FHRITP shakes the very foundation of who and what they are - I think that's a rather dramatic interpretation of what has been said here, and one that only further serves to minimise FHRITP by putting an "hysterical woman" slant on certain posts in the thread.

Calling FHRITP a silly prank or joke also further serves to minimise the issue. Once something becomes offensive, humiliating, intimidating, degrading, objectifying (I could go on, but won't) it stops being a joke or prank and becomes harassment - plain and simple!

I myself do find FHRITP to be offensive, but not on the personal level some here seem to be taking it.

Fairly understandable I guess, given that you are not a woman, and this is the group that this harassment is aimed at. But the group that it is aimed at have every right to find it offensive at a personal level. As do men who don't tend towards misogyny.

Change one word and it's an omnigendered insult.

Not your finest argument... Firstly, you'd have to change two words "her" and "pussy" (unless you are talking about man-pussy?!). Secondly, this argument is on par with saying change one word from "I want to kill you" to "I want to kiss you", and it's no longer a threat. Laughable, really!

I think LaFemme sums it up best:

This is about the the sexual objectification of women. It's about the need that some men feel they have to demean and sexually humiliate a woman, camera or not. Privately, these situations have gotten ugly, resulting in sexual attacks. Groups of drunken men, when they cease to view a woman as an individual have been known to rape. FHRITP is just a small piece of this. It's just a tiny part of taking an entire person and reducing them down into nothing but a "pussy".

 

[Bardox]

Not your finest argument... Firstly, you'd have to change two words "her" and "pussy" (unless you are talking about man-pussy?!).

On this I will concede. Change two words.