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you did what you felt was right. And I agree it might have gotten there to that point sooner or later, no matter what you had first decided to do.




WOW, I guess when I originally posted this whole story naively I thought somehow I was just venting instead now I am defending whether or not it really happened, my spelling and grammar, the fact that I was NUDE and Clean-Shaven and somehow was asking for it, the lack of control I exhibited and my own stupidity in lowering myself not only with the punch but the name calling…FUCK I am so confused.

First of all regrettably it did happen at Gold’s GYM in Thousand Oaks, CA.

Secondly and most importantly I believe is that although I was NUDE and Clean-Shaven I have been a member at this gym now for over ten years and have utilized both the sauna and steam room in the buff. I don’t enjoy stepping inside with my workout clothes on, or underwear, or even my Speedos which I use in the pool and hot tub. I do sometimes sit on a towel but do not cover up in one nor do I believe I should have to nor is this somehow “asking for it”. This I am positive on. Although I freely admit to enjoying shocking or catching the eyes of some who are in the sauna or steam with me it has been harmless up to now.

I also agree that I should have just sat there and let them run their suck cause they weren’t going to do anything physically with me regardless of their negativity. Punching someone although a quick release isn’t in the long run a good one in fact my right hand is swollen due in part to a previous injury. So NO I am not proud of what I did and I do realize I could have seriously hurt someone and YES as it has been pointed out I could have been the one in trouble. I do want to remind you though that the other two gentlemen were quick to go to my defense with the management. These two guys were looking for trouble regardless of who they just caught me at the wrong time.

Where as I don’t agree that somehow their words made me squirm because I too question my sexuality nothing could be further from the truth I know who I am. Unfortunately though, I am sick of the narrow minded persuasiveness which still exists even in 2011. It is a kin to the young kids getting bullied in school.

Lastly I want to say I apologize for getting so many upset, my intention was to vent myself not start a war of words. I made a lot of mistakes myself but hopefully regardless of how I chose to resolve this they will not be so quick to say stupid things in the future to anyone no mater how they are dressed (or not), or how they walk, or talk.

I would like to think we are at a place in time when we can quit judging or the name calling of others regardless of how different they are from us and our beliefs. As a straight man I have GAY men and women as well as Transsexuals as friends. Where some who know me would guess initially that I am a conservative cause of short cropped hair or serving in the Marines I am not. Again you cant judge a book by its cover. When I was younger and had long hair (in the 70’s) it was immediately understood that you were some sort of ‘Druggie’ well that was far from the truth. I was a jock, it was the 70’s at a time when Rock n Roll and David Cassidy and Partridge Family were on TV. Today as I see young guys with their pants hanging to their crotch I don’t get it but I don’t say that they are all some how ‘Gang Bangers’.

Just because a woman wears a tight pencil skirt with a sheer blouse and no bra doesn’t mean she wants you.

I hope I have explained myself a little more clearly.

As for sitting bare ass naked on the tile in the Sauna in the gym, I assure you that the gym I go to is clean and I am in no way the only man who is doing this.
 

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Just because a woman wears a tight pencil skirt with a sheer blouse and no bra doesn’t mean she wants you.
True, but it is common knowledge that wearing that outfit signifies that she's a slut. If she chooses to be seen in it, she has to be prepared for people to take it at face value and answer the ad.
 

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Well asshole, I made it a point to mention that I don't know anything about saunas, so don't throw a bitch fit over my ignorance while simultaneously calling my generation out on the need to grow up (which IS NOT synonymous with being comfortable with public nudity, that is not a generational view, but a social one). I think you need to grow up dude, your shouting at a teenager over the internet. . . so way to go!


Merry Christmas.
 
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True, but it is common knowledge that wearing that outfit signifies that she's a slut. If she chooses to be seen in it, she has to be prepared for people to take it at face value and answer the ad.

Maybe it signifies that she likes to dress in that particular way. You're the one suggesting that she is "a slut". Just in case you don't realize it, your comment is totally sexist. Just saying. :mad:
 

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If you don't like what they are saying you get off your ugly ass and leave. Report it to management. By physically assaulting them you get the chance of being sued and even thrown in jail. Verbal harassment isn't right, but it is not a reason to go after them physically...

^ this. Just because you walk away from a potentially physical altercation does not mean that anybody "beat" you, I find that mentality so juvenile. And I know you didn't describe it in those words, but isn't that what it boils down to? Like 'Red Rover Red Rover' or some other playground nonsense that some of us never outgrow. If anything, had you just continued on to your next scheduled stop (steam room, I think you said) THEN the whole situation could have been avoided. Now, if they had followed you outside, or if one of them had pushed or punched you first, that would justify some defense on your part. Violence just begets more violence, and words are just words. It doesn't seem to me that you taught them anything, in fact it is very possible that whatever homophobia these guys had before meeting you is alive and well and is now mixing with other uncomfortable emotions like anger and embarrassment. If all this happened to you (and happened the way you've described), I appreciate you standing up for, well, yourself mostly, but I guess also gays everywhere. Still, the bigger man would have just left, no matter how big his dick was.
 

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Maybe it signifies that she likes to dress in that particular way. You're the one suggesting that she is "a slut". Just in case you don't realize it, your comment is totally sexist. Just saying. :mad:
You have to think beyond what society tells you is politically correct.

Maybe someone likes to wear white sheets with matching pointy headgear. Are you going to tell me people who see them dressed that way have no right to assume they're racist?

Any choice you make comes with consequences of how the world is going to perceive you because of it, and you have to either be prepared to accept the public's response, or not put yourself in the situation.
 

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WOW, I guess when I originally posted this whole story naively I thought somehow I was just venting instead now I am defending whether or not it really happened, my spelling and grammar, the fact that I was NUDE and Clean-Shaven and somehow was asking for it, the lack of control I exhibited and my own stupidity in lowering myself not only with the punch but the name calling…FUCK I am so confused.

First of all regrettably it did happen at Gold’s GYM in Thousand Oaks, CA.

Secondly and most importantly I believe is that although I was NUDE and Clean-Shaven I have been a member at this gym now for over ten years and have utilized both the sauna and steam room in the buff. I don’t enjoy stepping inside with my workout clothes on, or underwear, or even my Speedos which I use in the pool and hot tub. I do sometimes sit on a towel but do not cover up in one nor do I believe I should have to nor is this somehow “asking for it”. This I am positive on. Although I freely admit to enjoying shocking or catching the eyes of some who are in the sauna or steam with me it has been harmless up to now.

I also agree that I should have just sat there and let them run their suck cause they weren’t going to do anything physically with me regardless of their negativity. Punching someone although a quick release isn’t in the long run a good one in fact my right hand is swollen due in part to a previous injury. So NO I am not proud of what I did and I do realize I could have seriously hurt someone and YES as it has been pointed out I could have been the one in trouble. I do want to remind you though that the other two gentlemen were quick to go to my defense with the management. These two guys were looking for trouble regardless of who they just caught me at the wrong time.

Where as I don’t agree that somehow their words made me squirm because I too question my sexuality nothing could be further from the truth I know who I am. Unfortunately though, I am sick of the narrow minded persuasiveness which still exists even in 2011. It is a kin to the young kids getting bullied in school.

Lastly I want to say I apologize for getting so many upset, my intention was to vent myself not start a war of words. I made a lot of mistakes myself but hopefully regardless of how I chose to resolve this they will not be so quick to say stupid things in the future to anyone no mater how they are dressed (or not), or how they walk, or talk.

I would like to think we are at a place in time when we can quit judging or the name calling of others regardless of how different they are from us and our beliefs. As a straight man I have GAY men and women as well as Transsexuals as friends. Where some who know me would guess initially that I am a conservative cause of short cropped hair or serving in the Marines I am not. Again you cant judge a book by its cover. When I was younger and had long hair (in the 70’s) it was immediately understood that you were some sort of ‘Druggie’ well that was far from the truth. I was a jock, it was the 70’s at a time when Rock n Roll and David Cassidy and Partridge Family were on TV. Today as I see young guys with their pants hanging to their crotch I don’t get it but I don’t say that they are all some how ‘Gang Bangers’.

Just because a woman wears a tight pencil skirt with a sheer blouse and no bra doesn’t mean she wants you.

I hope I have explained myself a little more clearly.

As for sitting bare ass naked on the tile in the Sauna in the gym, I assure you that the gym I go to is clean and I am in no way the only man who is doing this.

Kicked their asses, eh? LOL.

I personally don't know the protocol in today's fucked up sense of etiquette re. nudity. Haven't been to a regular gym sauna in some time. I once was a member of a club where people were in saunas, steam rooms, and even pools, nude.

People who react to you (and I've had some react to me, though none had ever been so stupid enough to address me directly - guess they knew better) do so because of their OWN insecurities. These jokers were fuckin' losers from the get, as evidenced by their actions.
 

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redneck is as offensive as fag.
insulting a person based on socioeconomic status is one of the last hold outs of acceptable bigotry.



"homophobic ass" works well as a replacement, least in your lil sauna tale.

Not even close. Fat is one of the biggest of the last holdouts of acceptable bigotry.
 

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Hmmm. While I agree that their behavior was boorish and you shouldn't have to tolerate it, something's still out of whack. It's never appropriate to use physical assault and battery as a response to spontaneous verbal abuse. It's a wonder you didn't have your gym membership rescinded on the spot, or get charges laid against you.
 

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You should be awarded a mayor's hero award: strong, brave, articulate, and a no-nonsense man. I wish many men were like you...and I, being a black female, would be proud to be on your arm, gay or not. At least you protect your honor and your significant other's honor, as well.

They may have been visiting here, as I would hate to think they were legal residents of Albuquerque...what an embarrassment! I hope they were passing through, and by the way, never pass this way again.