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Republican lawmakers are drafting new legislation that will make marriage a requirement for motherhood in the state of Indiana, including specific criminal penalties for unmarried women who do become pregnant “by means other than sexual intercourse.”
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Also, here's the bill itself in PDF format.

Contained therein is the following:
(a) Before intended parents may commence assisted reproduction, the intended parents shall obtain an assessment from a licensed child placing agency in the intended parents' state of residence.
(b) The assessment must follow the normal practice for assessments in a domestic infant adoption procedure and must include the following information:
...
(10) A description of the family lifestyle of the intended parents, include a description of individual participation in faith-based or church activities, hobbies, and other interests.

So basically, if you aren't a married, church-going, heterosexual woman, Indiana wants to make it illegal for you to have a child, unless it's conceived via sexual intercourse. That's right; all you homos and heathens, you can kiss your plans for in vitro fertilization, sperm donation, and egg donation goodbye.

And what are the penalties for going through with such a procedure without this gestational certificate? "[A prospective parent] who knowingly or willingly participates in an artificial reproduction procedure..." without court approval, "commits unauthorized reproduction, a Class B misdemeanor." The criminal charges will be the same for physicians who commit "unauthorized practice of artificial reproduction."
For the purpose of comparison, in the state of Indiana, crimes such as battery and harassment are considered class B midemeanors, and those found guilty of such crimes are liable to pay fines up to $1000 and/or spend 180 days in jail.

My apologies if this has been posted on here before... I was just so outraged that I had to share it.
 

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If we don't clean all of the legislative houses of these far right people at the next election, we have only ourselves to blame> VOTE!
 

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Originally posted by absinthium@Oct 5 2005, 12:00 PM
...including specific criminal penalties for unmarried women who do become pregnant “by means other than sexual intercourse.

..."[A prospective parent] who knowingly or willingly participates in an artificial reproduction procedure..." without court approval, "commits unauthorized reproduction, a Class B misdemeanor." The criminal charges will be the same for physicians who commit "unauthorized practice of artificial reproduction."
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WTF??? How are they going to know if an unmarried woman had a cock or a turkey baster in her puss? If she conceives out of state? Absolutely nuts. Thanks, absinthium.
 

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These are the sadistic bastards I'm supposed to be respectful about? Not on your motherfucking life!

To say I'm outraged would be the understatement of the decade. I'm stunned speechless. Fuck.

It's time to overthrow the dictatorship. This shit needs to stop.
 

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And to think we were worried about communists! So much for freedom.
Anybody besides me ready for the second American Revolution?

B-man
 

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Originally posted by Bananaman@Oct 5 2005, 01:09 PM
And to think we were worried about communists! So much for freedom.
Anybody besides me ready for the second American Revolution?

B-man
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Heheheh, you don't know me very well, do you, B-man? Let's put me in the white house and see what happens!

(By the way, under my "reformed" USC, the Indiana idiot who proposed this would be on trial for capital felony crimes against nature.)
 

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Doubtful it will pass (*fingers crossed*), but here's a quote from the author of the bill:

"We did want to address the issue of whether or not the law should
allow single people to be parents. Studies have shown that a child
raised by both parents - a mother and a father - do better. So, we
do want to have laws that protect the children," she explained.

So here's my question: Do they plan on keeping parents from divorcing as well? Give me a break people! Our ancestors came to America to live in the "land of the free" - not to be governed by some silly laws just b/c you don't like what we are doing.
 

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I just ran across this if anyone wants to give them a piece of your mind:

To express your support or opposition of legislation
making "unauthorized reproduction" a criminal act, contact members
of the Health Finance Commission by telephone or email (area code 317):

Sen. Patricia Miller ® 232-9489 s32@...
Sen. Gregory Server ® 232-9490 s50@...
Sen. Gary Dillon ® 232-9808 s17@...
Sen. Beverly Gard ® 232-9493 s28@...
Sen. Ryan Mishler ® 233-0930 s9@...
Sen. Connie Lawson ® 232-9984 s24@...
Sen. Marvin Riegsecker ® 232-9488 s12@...
Sen. Billie Breaux (D) 232-9849 s34@...
Sen. Vi Simpson (D) 232-9849 s40@...
Sen. Connie Sipes (D) 232-9526 s46@...
Sen. Timothy Skinner (D) 232-9523 s38@...
Rep. Vaneta Becker ® 232-9769 h78@...
Rep. Robert Behning ® 232-9981 h91@...
Rep. Timothy Brown ® 234-3825 h41@...
Rep.Mary Kay Budak® 232-9641 h20@...
Rep. Da vid Frizzell ® 232-9981 h93@...
Rep. Donald Lehe ® 232-9648 h15@...
Rep. Richard Dodge ® 232-9729 h51@...
Rep. Charlie Brown (D) 232-9676 h3@...
Rep. David Orentlicher (D) 232-9991 h86@...
Rep. Craig Fry (D) 232-9994 h5@...
Rep. Carolene Mays (D) 232-0243 h94@...
Rep. Scott Reske (D) 232-9695 h37@...

source
 

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Is it okay to make Nazi references NOW? Does anyone feel that this has all happened before and everything is going to be okay and work itself out all by itself?
 

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Originally posted by absinthium@Oct 5 2005, 11:00 AM
Republican lawmakers are drafting new legislation that will make marriage a requirement for motherhood in the state of Indiana, including specific criminal penalties for unmarried women who do become pregnant “by means other than sexual intercourse.”
The rest of the article can be found here.


Also, here's the bill itself in PDF format.

Contained therein is the following:
(a) Before intended parents may commence assisted reproduction, the intended parents shall obtain an assessment from a licensed child placing agency in the intended parents' state of residence.
(b) The assessment must follow the normal practice for assessments in a domestic infant adoption procedure and must include the following information:
...
(10) A description of the family lifestyle of the intended parents, include a description of individual participation in faith-based or church activities, hobbies, and other interests.

So basically, if you aren't a married, church-going, heterosexual woman, Indiana wants to make it illegal for you to have a child, unless it's conceived via sexual intercourse. That's right; all you homos and heathens, you can kiss your plans for in vitro fertilization, sperm donation, and egg donation goodbye.

And what are the penalties for going through with such a procedure without this gestational certificate? "[A prospective parent] who knowingly or willingly participates in an artificial reproduction procedure..." without court approval, "commits unauthorized reproduction, a Class B misdemeanor." The criminal charges will be the same for physicians who commit "unauthorized practice of artificial reproduction."
For the purpose of comparison, in the state of Indiana, crimes such as battery and harassment are considered class B midemeanors, and those found guilty of such crimes are liable to pay fines up to $1000 and/or spend 180 days in jail.

My apologies if this has been posted on here before... I was just so outraged that I had to share it.
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We really need to encourage the Republicans to show their true colors and advertise such as this to the general population. Surely, America as a country doesn't support this kind of control.

It is none of the government's business how the sperm got there or how the egg got there either for that matter. Once again, this is a private matter. And only the physicians and the patients should be involved. Insurance companies can decide what they cover in their insurance policies, but they are private and people have a choice which insurance company to use.

Reminds me of the last time the Republicans were in power back in the 1950's. That was the era of Senator Joe McCarthy. Then the Republicans were after every one in Hollywood for being a Communist. And many lives were destoryed before the Senate finally censured Joe McCarthy for his unprofesional conduct as chairman of a committee in the senate. Maybe folks we remember this and not return the Republicans to office again for a long time.
 

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Originally posted by DC_DEEP+Oct 5 2005, 10:57 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DC_DEEP &#064; Oct 5 2005, 10:57 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Bananaman@Oct 5 2005, 01:09 PM
And to think we were worried about communists&#33;  So much for freedom.
Anybody besides me ready for the second American Revolution?

B-man
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Heheheh, you don&#39;t know me very well, do you, B-man? Let&#39;s put me in the white house and see what happens&#33;

(By the way, under my "reformed" USC, the Indiana idiot who proposed this would be on trial for capital felony crimes against nature.)
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I like it&#33; DC for Prez&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; A gay guy in the White House&#33; Wouldn&#39;t that shake up those miserable right-wing creeps? I like your reformed USC, too, but it&#39;ll have to go a lot farther than that.

Now, if we can&#39;t get you elected, I know a number of former Marines beside the two of us....

And yes, Mme. Z, Nazi references certainly seem to apply, but even that fails to address the depths of my disgust&#33;

B-man
 

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So just where does this discrimination at the least or most appropriately, racial cleansing (and that&#39;s what it is) end? For now you must only be a married man and woman. What&#39;s next? You must have a certain income, live in certain areas, be only educated to a certain level, be willing to murder any child not of the approved gender, be only white and able to prove your bloodline????

DOES ANY OF THIS SOUND FAMILIAR???????????????????????
TO ANYONE????????????????????????????????????????????????
 

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Originally posted by Dr. Dilznick+Oct 5 2005, 11:09 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr. Dilznick &#064; Oct 5 2005, 11:09 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-TexAssgirl
Our ancestors came to America to live in the "land of the free" 
*cough*
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More *cough*
 

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Originally posted by TexAssgirl@Oct 5 2005, 11:00 AM
"We did want to address the issue of whether or not the law should
allow single people to be parents. Studies have shown that a child
raised by both parents - a mother and a father - do better. So, we
do want to have laws that protect the children," she explained.
[post=349137]Quoted post[/post]​
It&#39;s funny how they talk about &#39;studies&#39; this and &#39;studies&#39; that. Always with the &#39;studies&#39; which don&#39;t let anyone review them. Probably because their methodology&#39;s flawed in a bazillion ways.
 

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Originally posted by jonb+Oct 5 2005, 08:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jonb &#064; Oct 5 2005, 08:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Dr. Dilznick@Oct 5 2005, 11:09 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-TexAssgirl

Our ancestors came to America to live in the "land of the free" 

*cough*
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More *cough*
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I&#39;m sorry jon, I wasn&#39;t thinking of your people either.

OK - no more pointing out the error of my comment from anyone else&#33;&#33; You all know the point I was trying to make. Geeze&#33;
 

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Originally posted by TexAssgirl+Oct 5 2005, 10:48 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TexAssgirl &#064; Oct 5 2005, 10:48 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by jonb+Oct 5 2005, 08:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jonb &#064; Oct 5 2005, 08:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Dr. Dilznick@Oct 5 2005, 11:09 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-TexAssgirl

Our ancestors came to America to live in the "land of the free"

*cough*
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More *cough*
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I&#39;m sorry jon, I wasn&#39;t thinking of your people either.

OK - no more pointing out the error of my comment from anyone else&#33;&#33; You all know the point I was trying to make. Geeze&#33;
[post=349243]Quoted post[/post]​
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More more *cough*


Don&#39;t forget about Hawaiians :p
 

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Originally posted by KinkGuy@Oct 5 2005, 11:55 PM
So just where does this discrimination at the least or most appropriately, racial cleansing (and that&#39;s what it is) end? For now you must only be a married man and woman. What&#39;s next? You must have a certain income, live in certain areas, be only educated to a certain level, be willing to murder any child not of the approved gender, be only white and able to prove your bloodline????

DOES ANY OF THIS SOUND FAMILIAR???????????????????????
TO ANYONE????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Oh, it&#39;s NOT just that they must be a married man and woman, they must ALSO be affiliated with a Christian church&#33; I shit you not, that&#39;s part of the requirement&#33; AND, if any of the lezbos go ahead and procreate AGAINST THE LAW, they risk being fined and/or imprisoned&#33; This is america, folks, right here and now. This makes your further concerns very real indeed.

While I find it unlikely that it will pass (although nothing surprises me thesedays), the very fact that it is being discussed creeps me the fuck out. We simply CAN&#39;T be tolerant of this horseshit anymore. If we don&#39;t scream now, and loudly, our voices may be forever muffled.