Wow. I misunderstood. No one puts Dante in a corner. If you respect his questions as being well meaning, he puts you in a corner.
Gee whiz. Do I now totally get it?
Gay act? No! What's the difference?
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Wow. I misunderstood. No one puts Dante in a corner. If you respect his questions as being well meaning, he puts you in a corner.
Gee whiz. Do I now totally get it?
He wasn't aware of what was going on, however. You weren't wanking with him, you were wanking apart from him. And what you were wanking to was most certainly homoerotic.:wink::tongue:He was describing a Saturday night skinny-dip the four of them had. I asked a line of questions that essentially led him to describing my buddy's dick (I'd never seen him naked)...and unbeknownst to my bunk-mate, I was wanking off to the visuals he was giving me (was Tom bigger than Joe? was he thicker than Tony? etc). I remember it was damned good wank too...I slept very well that night.So there you have two guys, one wanking...but I was not in the least interested in my roomie or his eroticism, nor even exhibitionism or voyeurism. Instead I was interacting with another guy and focusing on my own personal agenda of learning about by best buddy's cock. It definitely matched Dante's original question "how is a man masturbating with or to another man not a gay/bisexual act?" but we were not into each other in the least.
True...but two guys side-by-side focused on a video of porn and not checking each other out would fall into the same category. If the porn included a guy fucking a woman...is that so gay? :tongue:
And what I wank to is most certainly bizarre.
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What the hell are you talking about?
If you paid attention to anything, you'd see that Max and a few others did something that the rest didn't. They didn't take my simple, straight-forward original post and try to spin with dumb ass replies that would probably get you B- if you were bullshitting a paper in college because you used a few words you learned from your SAT prep course. "Jacking off to a child is wrong, but two guys jerking off to one another is not gay, they're just sharing an intimate moment." Give me a fucking break.
I swear to God- I don't understand how a lot of people on this site make it through life. Living in glass houses, with transparent furniture. Hell, some of these people might as well be glass- you can see through them too. Living with all of the lies, and deceit- and yet they're typically the first to scream that they want something meaningful. " A friend of mine knows that I have a big dick, and she wants me to donate my sperm- hoping that she'll have a son who's hung too!" What the fuck? I don't know what bothers me more- the fact that someone actually posted that as a thread and wanted to know what they should do about it? Or the fact that someone actually had that happen to them? No, I know the answer- the fact that that someone actually posted that as a question and was seeking advice. That's just fucking stupid.
Please pardon me- I spun off from my original idea, but I felt that your puerile statement gave me a bit of breathing/venting room.
My original post was a simple question. It really didn't even require a detail answer, if you look at it again. Whether pedophilia is legal or not, pedophilia is still pedophilia. It may be illegal for a man to walk down the street naked in your country, and it may be legal for the same man to walk down the street naked in another- IT'S STILL A MAN WALKING DOWN THE STREET NAKED! I mean, this world of delusions and big dicks and unicorns that some of you live in- tell me, are there roller coasters and rides? Do you have season tickets or just an all day pass?
Some of you lie on a website where you can be anonymous because you fear the truth and what's real. Because you just can't see things what they truly are- and yet you try to offer advice and influence the lives of others on here. Which leads me to my next question- if you can't even be real with yourself and the ones you love, who are you to try to influence the life of someone else? What exactly do you know of truth?
Well, I guess I spun off once again. Oh well, I feel better. Thanks for posting everyone
There's still an erotic aspect to that.
And what the fuck is up with all these unlikely various situations being thrown out? How often do dudes wank off and totally ignore each other? The whole thing is a gay act, fo' rilz.
Understatement.:wink:
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True...but two guys side-by-side focused on a video of porn and not checking each other out would fall into the same category. If the porn included a guy fucking a woman...is that so gay? :tongue:
And what I wank to is most certainly bizarre.
I think you misunderstood me- two guys jerking off side by side to a video- GO NUTS! Call it what you will. But if you have two guys watching each other jerk off and that's their focus. Yep. Gay. And that's the point that I was making with the original post... Take the Porn out of the equation... There's no porn involved... Like the example with the pedophile- no porn whatsoever. Once the idea of porn is removed...what do you have then?
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You are making up a whole new situation now, because in your original post you said this about someone that caught a pedophile: "you see him masturbating to images"
Those images are porn isn't it. A wrong kind of porn, but it's still porn.
So people assuming here that two or more guys can have a wank together watching a porn isn't homoerotic or gay, just a wank is a good reasoning.
Look if you want to imagine two guys coming together to enjoy each other's company, jerking each other off or watching at each other, well yes, that is homoerotic, not always gay, because I believe being gay means more than having a sexual encounter with someone of the same gender. I always thought being gay/bi/heterosexual meant also having feelings for each other, loving each other.
But guys watching porn together isn't.
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Okay, let me paint this picture for you clearly...
You can have a MAN jerking off to images of a man- ALONE, or a man jerking of with another man- no porn. Gay act? yay or nay?
A man jerking off to images of children- ALONE, or a man jerking of with a child- no porn. Act of pedophilia? yay or nay?
And that was what I was establishing in my original post- I do apologize if it confused you, but others understood me just fine.
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Dante,
While recognizing the total "run around the bush" bs that some have thrown out, I believe that some of the problems folks are having, is the way some of the answers are "typed out".
We all know that there are sometimes different interpretations of the same statement. I'll pick on luka because, well, just because I haven't in a long time :tongue:
Depending on which way I read it, I either agree or disagree with the bolded statement. Let's throw in some more detailed wording...
And yes, in my opinion the act of wanking together is quite gay.
Totally agree. The act in itself is 2 people of the same sex, engaging in an act, involving their sexual organs.
And yes, in my opinion the guys that are wanking together are quite gay.
Totally Disagree. The participants are not necesarily gay. The rest of their life and or sexual encounters may very well be limited to the opposite sex only. If we are using labels, it does however make them bisexual, as they are open to engaging in a gay activity.
And in all honesty, I think that makes them totally normal with a healthy outlook and attitude. But that's a whole nuther subject, that can be thread all on it's own
While recognizing the total "run around the bush" bs that some have thrown out
, I believe that some of the problems folks are having, is the way some of the answers are "typed out".We all know that there are sometimes different interpretations of the same statement. I'll pick on luka because, well, just because I haven't in a long time :tongue:
Depending on which way I read it, I either agree or disagree with the bolded statement. Let's throw in some more detailed wording...
And yes, in my opinion the act of wanking together is quite gay.
Totally agree. The act in itself is 2 people of the same sex, engaging in an act, involving their sexual organs.
And yes, in my opinion the guys that are wanking together are quite gay.
Totally Disagree. The participants are not necesarily gay. The rest of their life and or sexual encounters may very well be limited to the opposite sex only. If we are using labels, it does however make them bisexual, as they are open to engaging in a gay activity.
And in all honesty, I think that makes them totally normal with a healthy outlook and attitude. But that's a whole nuther subject, that can be thread all on it's own
Wanking over a guy, or directly wanking a guy is in my opinion bisexual/homoerotic. Wanking with a buddy, but not touching, is borderline.
Wanking over pics of minors would be considered an act of paedophilia imo (just as wanking over a pic of a guy is bi/gay).
But that's not to say being gay or a paedophile is in any way synonymous - it isn't.
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And AGAIN a whole different situation. I never said that it isn't a gay interest about one guy jerking off to images of a man. That is different than said above!
And what is even worse, is the fact that you compare guys being attracted to guys and guys being attracted to children!!!!
What the f*ck, you can't compare those because it really has nothing to do with each other.
You only want to hear that when guys do nude things together it's gay. That's all you wanna hear. People here are telling you their opinions about that it isn't always gay when guys wank with each other because situations are different.
And also, how bad is it to label like that. People are sexual beings, don't label an act that they did once. You can't call a guy or a woman gay when they participated once or so in a "gay-act" and live the rest of their life as straight people.
Stop changing your ideas and deal with it. And you attack people on here, saying that they probably can't function in real life because they don't follow your sick mind. You are the one who thinks that gay and pedophilia can be compared on the same level!
How is calling it "just a wank" good reasoning? You're looking at it from the most superficial of perspectives, totally disregarding the sexual undertones.
Again, we're speaking of the act, not the individuals involved. The act is inherently homoerotic because it involves eroticism and same-sex participants.
Dante,
While recognizing the total "run around the bush" bs that some have thrown out
We all know that there are sometimes different interpretations of the same statement. I'll pick on luka because, well, just because I haven't in a long time :tongue:
Depending on which way I read it, I either agree or disagree with the bolded statement. Let's throw in some more detailed wording...
And yes, in my opinion the act of wanking together is quite gay.
Totally agree. The act in itself is 2 people of the same sex, engaging in an act, involving their sexual organs.
And yes, in my opinion the guys that are wanking together are quite gay.
Totally Disagree. The participants are not necesarily gay. The rest of their life and or sexual encounters may very well be limited to the opposite sex only. If we are using labels, it does however make them bisexual, as they are open to engaging in a gay activity.
And in all honesty, I think that makes them totally normal with a healthy outlook and attitude. But that's a whole nuther subject, that can be thread all on it's own
Now this makes sense^^^
I agree fully with Cg's post.
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It is legally pedophilia, men are carted away all the time and put in jail even when it's just the images/pics in their computer (Gary Glitter ring a bell?)
That aside, masturbating with another man isn't necessarily gay. There are hundreds and hundreds of males that have been in circle jerks, never laying a hand on any guy, same as group sex, and an orgy. It's sexual release and fun, there's never any hands on action between the men.
Masturbating to another man or image is in my thinking a homosexual act, if there are ideas/images/thinking of females then it is bisexual.
If a person thinks masturbating with another man is gay, then sex with a female who at any time was with a different man, must be really gay since he sank his penis in her and there might be left over skin cells.
And you can pick on Luka any time! :biggrin1:I'll pick on luka because, well, just because I haven't in a long time :tongue:
Depending on which way I read it, I either agree or disagree with the bolded statement. Let's throw in some more detailed wording...
And yes, in my opinion the act of wanking together is quite gay.
Totally agree. The act in itself is 2 people of the same sex, engaging in an act, involving their sexual organs.
Agreed 100%
And yes, in my opinion the guys that are wanking together are quite gay.
Totally Disagree. The participants are not necesarily gay. The rest of their life and or sexual encounters may very well be limited to the opposite sex only. If we are using labels, it does however make them bisexual, as they are open to engaging in a gay activity.
And in all honesty, I think that makes them totally normal with a healthy outlook and attitude. But that's a whole nuther subject, that can be thread all on it's own
Call it gay or bi, it isn`t straight.
This is a subject that has been thrown around for some time and has become a process of trying to define other people's sexuality. Heterosexual (Straight) - homosexual or bisexual.
The Oxford Concise English Dictionary defines Homosexual as "(person) being sexually attracted only by persons of ones own sex"
It defines bisexual as "of two sexes; having both sexes in one individual. sexually attracted by members of both sexes".
It describes heterosexual as "(person) characterised by (the normal) attraction to the opposite sex".
The fluidity of sexual preference used by members of this site and others is perhaps the issue which causes some confusion and possibly anger from some of the subscribers. I doesn't matter to me whether someone is heterosexual, bisexual or gay that is their own, individual sexuality but I am perplexed when I see someone registered on a Large Penis website, drooling over another mans penis (sometimes stating what they would like to do with it) and claiming to be 100% straight. For me its not about what someone is (sexually) it's about honesty and not being afraid of admitting that there is an element of bisexuality in their personality. We have probably all met someone who only has sex with men but claims to be bisexual as he feels that is more acceptable than admiting he is actually gay.
I have lots of women friends of whom I am very fond but when it comes to sex and sexuality I am only comfortable with other men.
I wonder if, given the opportunity, many members would change their % of sexual preference?
The Oxford Concise English Dictionary defines Homosexual as "(person) being sexually attracted only by persons of ones own sex"
It defines bisexual as "of two sexes; having both sexes in one individual. sexually attracted by members of both sexes".
It describes heterosexual as "(person) characterised by (the normal) attraction to the opposite sex".
The fluidity of sexual preference used by members of this site and others is perhaps the issue which causes some confusion and possibly anger from some of the subscribers. I doesn't matter to me whether someone is heterosexual, bisexual or gay that is their own, individual sexuality but I am perplexed when I see someone registered on a Large Penis website, drooling over another mans penis (sometimes stating what they would like to do with it) and claiming to be 100% straight. For me its not about what someone is (sexually) it's about honesty and not being afraid of admitting that there is an element of bisexuality in their personality. We have probably all met someone who only has sex with men but claims to be bisexual as he feels that is more acceptable than admiting he is actually gay.
I have lots of women friends of whom I am very fond but when it comes to sex and sexuality I am only comfortable with other men.
I wonder if, given the opportunity, many members would change their % of sexual preference?
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The point that I was trying to make: If you consider a man masturbating to images of children an act of pedophilia, then why isn't a man masturbating to images of men not a gay act?
But lets back up for a sec. You said that wanking with a buddy, but not touching, is borderline. Masturbating with a child but not touching- is that still borderline?
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There aren't always sexual undertones! I think you guys are superficial because you guys immidiatly say when two guys wank it's gay. But analyse this:
- two guys coming home from a party, no luck with girls, but horny as hell, put on porn and have a wank ---> far from gay or homerotic, just busting anut with no shame
- two guys having a wank with no porn on, even touching each other ---> homoerotic/exploring/bisexuality/gay choose what you want, it still depends from person to person
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