Gay director's trademarks in films you discovered they used constantly..

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    It could be themes or visualizations, but which gay director did you noticed seem to use the same technique constantly?
     
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    Are you talking about mainstream or porn? If it's porn, than I think all of them use the same technique and visualizations combined among all of them. If you are talking about mainstream I would really have to give it a great deal of thought. The only thing that strikes me off the top of my head is that George Cukor worked great with strong leading woman.
     
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    James Whale had a very flamboyant style richly influenced by the Expressionists. He had a definite affinity for those on the outskirts of society, those whom society believed were monsters (such as open homosexuals like Whale). If there's any scene in Whale's work that might be autobiographical, it's this one. "Have a cigar..." or when is a cigar not a cigar?
     
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    After giving this some thought I have a great deal of respect for Randal Kleiser, Rob Marshall, Gus Van Sant and John Schlesinger because I feel that they don't use formulas and approach each project with a new perspective and eye for the film and audience. Qualities that I think are important for survival in Hollywood. I have respect for Kimberly Pierce yet I feel she is locked into her perspective of desperation and hopelessness and because of that she will never move forward beyond being a one hit wonder.
     
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    Definitely Gus Van Sant's run of art-house risque films in the 90's (before he went mainstream).
    Drugstore Cowboy, My Own Private Idaho, and Even Cowgirls Get the Blues all highlight fringe characters, alienation themes.
    Visually, he used disconnected photographic sequences, a sense of floating through the inner states of the characters, time-lapse (he was big with this), and muted tones in all three movies. With respect to audio, he had some unique choices such as yodelling in Idaho.
    Growing up gay, these made a very memorable impact on me.
     
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    Didn't he make the short Mala Noche? Let's not forget Greg Araki. He makes great films.
     
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    George Cukor had a very distinct trademark that was seen constantly in Dinner At Eight, The Women, A Woman's Face, Gaslight, etc...

    His style was pretty recognizable in some cases more than once.
     
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    Thanks for posting this. I'm really looking forward to seeing this (What a cast) because it's really gotten a lot of buzz. I hope Penelope Cruz wins for this and Broken Embraces. I love Meryl Streep but if she wins this year based on what she is up against... Oh well we shall see.
     
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    Hi
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    Mala Noche was Gus Van Sant's first movie.
     
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    John Waters uses the same cast of actors in his films, with a few having been featured from the very beginning of his student/early work: he's as famous for that as he is for his outrageous subjects and outlandish characters.

    I always felt that his work lost a great deal when the stopped ranting and started engaging in normal dialog (circa Polyester).
     
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    Hmm...it might be a bit difficult to get a definitive answer as to who is/was and who is/was not a gay director. :wink:

    Seriously.
     
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    The two most important gay filmmakers I'm aware of that come to mind are F.W. Murnau and Kenneth Anger. Is anyone here familiar with their work?
     
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    I'm most familiar with Anger through Hollywood Babylon, the copy which I purchased at the age of 16 is still in my collection, thank you. I have seen Scorpio Rising and some others at a screening in Boston in the early 80s, but remember nothing about them. According to Wikipedia, he is making films again, which is a good thing and something that bears closer study and research.

    Murnau I know only from Nosferatu, unfortunately. It's kinda like only knowing Lang from Metropolis.
     
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