Gay guys and women

[BBB2.5]

Never have been attacted to that particular part of the female body .....I have seen porn.....and when they guy gets down there and they go in for a close up....reminds me of something out of the movie .."Alien"...you know when the monster stick out his little head out of the bigger head.
It's a monster run for your life ...... :evilgrin:


:hi:

 

[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

Originally posted by loser_emo_kid@Sep 11 2005, 01:35 AM
wtf, you've been offered sex by attractive women? what alternate dimension do you guys live in? because here on my planet we have to work pretty hard for it

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Sorry about your hardship, emo-dude, but yeah ... I've been propositioned by women more times than I can count. If I hear, "you just haven't met the right woman," one more time ... For me, there is no right woman.

 

[LuckyLuke]

Originally posted by collegeguy711@Sep 11 2005, 08:47 AM
I don't hate women, I don't wanna be a woman, and
I'm not afraid of breasts or a vagina. I like women. :yourock:
In fact that might be part of the issue with gay guys.
I think some of us like women too much to sexualize them.
We love women too much on a platonic level, actresses,
singers, etc. (Hence all the diva gay icons.)
Part of me feels dirty having sexual thoughts about them.
I look at woman and think of equals or sisters, whereas I
can look at a man and see him on a purly sexual level
without a second thought. :loveya: The case is probably
visa versa with st8 guys. Again maybe part of what makes
us who we are and who we're into. Just my humble opinions. :dunce:

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Thank you for the explanation of why so many gay bars have drag queens for entertainment - me and some of my friends find the concept unfathomable (and hideous entertainment).

Personally, I've always been of the opinion that if I was attracted to anything even remotely feminine, I'd be with a girl. To me, being gay is a celebration of male-ness and I can't figure out where this diva-worship stuff fits into that.

To each his own I guess. I do know that I get hit with lots of flak from my straight friends because so many gay guys seem to obsessed with this diva-worshipping thing and that seems to be the straight world definition of homosexuality - indeed it seems to form the basis of most of the ridicule that I'm subjected to from straight people - an assumption that I'm obsessed with some over the hill drag-diva. Quite tiresome.

 

[Spork]

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper+Sep 12 2005, 07:03 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DoubleMeatWhopper &#064; Sep 12 2005, 07:03 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-loser_emo_kid@Sep 11 2005, 01:35 AM
wtf, you&#39;ve been offered sex by attractive women? what alternate dimension do you guys live in? because here on my planet we have to work pretty hard for it

[post=342215]Quoted post[/post]​

Sorry about your hardship, emo-dude, but yeah ... I&#39;ve been propositioned by women more times than I can count. If I hear, "you just haven&#39;t met the right woman," one more time ... For me, there is no right woman.

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If you&#39;re gay, odds are that you&#39;re being friendly to women, and even enjoying witty, flirtatious banter, but subtly rebuffing their body language because you&#39;re fundamentally not interested.

This drives most women absolutely wild with desire. Women are (on the whole) really turned off by men who actually show interest in them. To them, this shows that the man is single and desperate, and therefore a loser. Remember the Groucho Marx quote "I don&#39;t want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member."

 

[madame_zora]

Originally posted by Spork+Sep 12 2005, 07:53 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Spork &#064; Sep 12 2005, 07:53 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper@Sep 12 2005, 07:03 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-loser_emo_kid

@Sep 11 2005, 01:35 AM
wtf, you&#39;ve been offered sex by attractive women? what alternate dimension do you guys live in? because here on my planet we have to work pretty hard for it

[post=342215]Quoted post[/post]​

Sorry about your hardship, emo-dude, but yeah ... I&#39;ve been propositioned by women more times than I can count. If I hear, "you just haven&#39;t met the right woman," one more time ... For me, there is no right woman.

[post=342532]Quoted post[/post]​

If you&#39;re gay, odds are that you&#39;re being friendly to women, and even enjoying witty, flirtatious banter, but subtly rebuffing their body language because you&#39;re fundamentally not interested.

This drives most women absolutely wild with desire. Women are (on the whole) really turned off by men who actually show interest in them. To them, this shows that the man is single and desperate, and therefore a loser. Remember the Groucho Marx quote "I don&#39;t want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member."

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Not only that, but as a gay man there is a higher probablitilty that he&#39;ll be interested in theatre, perhaps shopping, decorating- things women would be more inclined to talk about than sports non-stop. Most women really don&#39;t give a fuck about the latest engine repairs, fishing tackle, NASCAR stars. I am making sweeping generalisations here, I realise there are women interested in all these things, but not the majority. There are gay men who don&#39;t bathe regularly and can&#39;t coordinate an outfit to save their lives, but not the majority. Many gay men represent what we women wish straight men would be like, communicative, interested in their appearance, articulate.
There are straight guys like that out there, just not the majority.

 

[Rikter8]

Lets not forget the Gay Men like myself that ARE into cars, sports, hunting, fishing, the occasional rant to raid the fridge...

Many gay guys are just as Masculine, if not moreso than straight men.
Were just a bit more rare

C

Originally posted by madame_zora+Sep 12 2005, 03:53 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(madame_zora &#064; Sep 12 2005, 03:53 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by Spork@Sep 12 2005, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper@Sep 12 2005, 07:03 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-loser_emo_kid

@Sep 11 2005, 01:35 AM
wtf, you&#39;ve been offered sex by attractive women? what alternate dimension do you guys live in? because here on my planet we have to work pretty hard for it

[post=342215]Quoted post[/post]​

Sorry about your hardship, emo-dude, but yeah ... I&#39;ve been propositioned by women more times than I can count. If I hear, "you just haven&#39;t met the right woman," one more time ... For me, there is no right woman.

[post=342532]Quoted post[/post]​

If you&#39;re gay, odds are that you&#39;re being friendly to women, and even enjoying witty, flirtatious banter, but subtly rebuffing their body language because you&#39;re fundamentally not interested.

This drives most women absolutely wild with desire. Women are (on the whole) really turned off by men who actually show interest in them. To them, this shows that the man is single and desperate, and therefore a loser. Remember the Groucho Marx quote "I don&#39;t want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member."

[post=342598]Quoted post[/post]​

Not only that, but as a gay man there is a higher probablitilty that he&#39;ll be interested in theatre, perhaps shopping, decorating- things women would be more inclined to talk about than sports non-stop. Most women really don&#39;t give a fuck about the latest engine repairs, fishing tackle, NASCAR stars. I am making sweeping generalisations here, I realise there are women interested in all these things, but not the majority. There are gay men who don&#39;t bathe regularly and can&#39;t coordinate an outfit to save their lives, but not the majority. Many gay men represent what we women wish straight men would be like, communicative, interested in their appearance, articulate.
There are straight guys like that out there, just not the majority.

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[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

I am all about sports, but there&#39;s a difference: I&#39;m into more kinds of sports than your average straight man. I like football, hockey, baseball, basketball, etc., but I also like sports that many straight men wouldn&#39;t even consider, such as figure skating. And, being Cuban, if jai alai is on TV, don&#39;t even think you can get me to budge&#33;

 

[Shamrock]

Originally posted by madame_zora+Sep 13 2005, 06:53 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(madame_zora &#064; Sep 13 2005, 06:53 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by Spork@Sep 12 2005, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper@Sep 12 2005, 07:03 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-loser_emo_kid

@Sep 11 2005, 01:35 AM
wtf, you&#39;ve been offered sex by attractive women? what alternate dimension do you guys live in? because here on my planet we have to work pretty hard for it

[post=342215]Quoted post[/post]​

Sorry about your hardship, emo-dude, but yeah ... I&#39;ve been propositioned by women more times than I can count. If I hear, "you just haven&#39;t met the right woman," one more time ... For me, there is no right woman.

[post=342532]Quoted post[/post]​

If you&#39;re gay, odds are that you&#39;re being friendly to women, and even enjoying witty, flirtatious banter, but subtly rebuffing their body language because you&#39;re fundamentally not interested.

This drives most women absolutely wild with desire. Women are (on the whole) really turned off by men who actually show interest in them. To them, this shows that the man is single and desperate, and therefore a loser. Remember the Groucho Marx quote "I don&#39;t want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member."

[post=342598]Quoted post[/post]​

Not only that, but as a gay man there is a higher probablitilty that he&#39;ll be interested in theatre, perhaps shopping, decorating- things women would be more inclined to talk about than sports non-stop. Most women really don&#39;t give a fuck about the latest engine repairs, fishing tackle, NASCAR stars. I am making sweeping generalisations here, I realise there are women interested in all these things, but not the majority. There are gay men who don&#39;t bathe regularly and can&#39;t coordinate an outfit to save their lives, but not the majority. Many gay men represent what we women wish straight men would be like, communicative, interested in their appearance, articulate.
There are straight guys like that out there, just not the majority.

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Hold on a minute Zora, there&#39;s "interested" in one&#39;s appearance and then there&#39;s
obsessive. Like those guys off Queer Eye. I have pretty short hair and I have had
a few girls want me to go metrosexual and gel it up. First off I hate gel. Its feels revolting in your hair and I think its just psudo trendy crap. Secondly, if a woman wants a man to be that much like a woman, become a lesbian&#33;
We&#39;re men, and while looking nice is something I like being in the health and fitness industry, it can become obsessive. 6 hours a week in the gym is enough for me. And most men hate shopping because while wearing nice clothes is good, trying them on is boring.

 

[steve319]

Originally posted by madame_zora+Sep 12 2005, 04:53 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(madame_zora &#064; Sep 12 2005, 04:53 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>theatre, perhaps shopping, decorating...

...engine repairs, fishing tackle, NASCAR stars.
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Then there are misfits like me who get no thrill from either list.

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I am making sweeping generalisations here, ...

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But there&#39;s real truth to this for many out there (as I was reminded at a poker game this past Saturday night when most of the other men at the table were positively mesmerized by an auto race on TV--too bad I wasn&#39;t able to use their distractedness to unfair advantage with the cards).

I wonder sometimes how much of it is a conscious effort to fit societal norms and how much is genuine learned behavior.

 

[donnionni]

As a gay man who has had sex with woman, I still think about being with woman occasionally. For most of the same reasons as many, would like to start a family, something different once in a while. But I think for me woman are so complicated when it comes to sex and relationships. Woman are emotional creatures and can get there claws into you quickly. Being with a man is something totaly different, less complicated and formal i guess

I do find that being a more masculine gay man that I find woman are attracted to me still even if they know I am gay. I am a sexual being, so if I am flirted with I will return those flirts no matter who it is with.

 

[Dorset]

Originally posted by madame_zora+Sep 12 2005, 08:53 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(madame_zora &#064; Sep 12 2005, 08:53 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by Spork@Sep 12 2005, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper@Sep 12 2005, 07:03 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-loser_emo_kid

@Sep 11 2005, 01:35 AM
wtf, you&#39;ve been offered sex by attractive women? what alternate dimension do you guys live in? because here on my planet we have to work pretty hard for it

[post=342215]Quoted post[/post]​

Sorry about your hardship, emo-dude, but yeah ... I&#39;ve been propositioned by women more times than I can count. If I hear, "you just haven&#39;t met the right woman," one more time ... For me, there is no right woman.

[post=342532]Quoted post[/post]​

If you&#39;re gay, odds are that you&#39;re being friendly to women, and even enjoying witty, flirtatious banter, but subtly rebuffing their body language because you&#39;re fundamentally not interested.

This drives most women absolutely wild with desire. Women are (on the whole) really turned off by men who actually show interest in them. To them, this shows that the man is single and desperate, and therefore a loser. Remember the Groucho Marx quote "I don&#39;t want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member."

[post=342598]Quoted post[/post]​

Not only that, but as a gay man there is a higher probablitilty that he&#39;ll be interested in theatre, perhaps shopping, decorating- things women would be more inclined to talk about than sports non-stop. Most women really don&#39;t give a fuck about the latest engine repairs, fishing tackle, NASCAR stars. I am making sweeping generalisations here, I realise there are women interested in all these things, but not the majority. There are gay men who don&#39;t bathe regularly and can&#39;t coordinate an outfit to save their lives, but not the majority. Many gay men represent what we women wish straight men would be like, communicative, interested in their appearance, articulate.
There are straight guys like that out there, just not the majority.

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I hate to throw a spanner in the works but this also applies to men who just aren&#39;t intrested, a while ago when I was single & I wasn&#39;t having much luck with women I went out to see a mate of mine who lives in Spain and he was pulling all the time

I couldn&#39;t put my finger on it at first but the more I put hitting on a woman to the back of my mind the more successful I became at pulling and I started to be a lot more popular than my appearence merits

I think it is just down to the level of confidence you give off. If you&#39;re looking like you&#39;re trying then the woman is more likely to be thinking something along the lines of &#39;what&#39;s the point, he&#39;d shag a whale if that was all that was on offer&#39; but if he looks perfectly happy to just enjoy himself without trying to get laid then beding him would be an acheivement for her. It allows her to get her man and feel attractive

Just about any guy will tell you that women are like busses, you can wait ages for one and then 3 turn up at once. Think about it, it&#39;s not a coincidence&#33;

 

[jonb]

Oh, about the fence-jumping, this is interesting because straight guys, if we even consider crossing over, it&#39;s going to be with a manly man. Someone who contradicts all the stereotypes about gay men.

 

[Dorset]

Originally posted by jonb@Sep 13 2005, 10:07 AM
Oh, about the fence-jumping, this is interesting because straight guys, if we even consider crossing over, it&#39;s going to be with a manly man. Someone who contradicts all the stereotypes about gay men.

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I second that, if I were to be tempted over to the other side for the night it would never be with someone camp.

 

[jonb]

Yeah, even effeminacy isn&#39;t as bad as the camp type. Come to think of it, all my friends (at least the straight/bi ones) want some masculine qualities in their girlfriends, like honesty. (And by honesty, I mean a little TOO honest.)

 

[D_Elijah_MorganWood]

I was a late bloomer and didn&#39;t hop the fence to the homo side until I was 22. Physically I enjoyed sex with women. Sine then I haven&#39;t been with any but have had plenty of offers including having my baby.

 

[madame_zora]

Dorset, you made a point I completely overlooked. You&#39;re right on it. Women like to chase too&#33; That IS one of the appealing things about gay men- they&#39;re not houding us.
While we know most gay men are not interested in us sexually, there are those occasional few who are bi and will give it a go in the right circumstances, but they&#39;ll usually wait for us to come to them.

I detest women who try to push themselves on confirmed gay guys with stupid lines like "You just need to have the RIGHT woman", meaning them, of course. How stupid, not to mention rude. If someone is nice enough to be your friend, you shouldn&#39;t be a troll to them.

Straight guys who look like they have no use for me whatsoever drive me nuts. While I don&#39;t often have the courage to approach them, they are always the ones who draw my attention. If guy uses a canned intro line, it&#39;s a complete turn off. I like it if he just says hi, I don&#39;t care if he&#39;s nervous- I think it&#39;s cute. If he just says something normal, like "Do you like this band?" or something like that, I&#39;ll be glad to talk to him. If the first thing he says is "Wow, how big ARE those things anyway?" I&#39;m gonna get as far away from him as possible.

 

[Dorset]

Originally posted by Rikter8@Sep 9 2005, 05:23 PM
When I hear descriptions of it, it turns me off.
"Smells like tuna", tastes like fish...etc etc. uke:

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Lol, which part of the body do you like to shag again? What does that smell like?

If a women looks after her hygiene then it shouldn&#39;t smell

 

[naughty]

Dorset,

Not to be too graphic, but there are smells and there are smells. Contrary to popular notion, the "fishy" smell does not come from lack of hygiene necessarily. In fact, in some cases it comes from too much washing. What I mean is that the "fish" smell is usually an indication that someone&#39;s internal ph balance is out of kilter and the person has developed an infection because of it. This may come from a variety of things: medications, hormonal changes, unaccustomed sexual activity, deodarant soaps, perfumes, bubble bath, diet. Quite often it is exacerbated by the person frantically attempting to wash away the embarassing odor. This is really something only doctor can take care of with an antibiotic.


Naughty

 

[Dorset]

Originally posted by naughty@Sep 14 2005, 10:43 AM
Dorset,

Not to be too graphic, but there are smells and there are smells. Contrary to popular notion, the "fishy" smell does not come from lack of hygiene necessarily. In fact, in some cases it comes from too much washing. What I mean is that the "fish" smell is usually an indication that someone&#39;s internal ph balance is out of kilter and the person has developed an infection because of it. This may come from a variety of things: medications, hormonal changes, unaccustomed sexual activity, deodarant soaps, perfumes, bubble bath, diet.  Quite often it is exacerbated by the person frantically attempting to wash away the embarassing odor. This is really something only doctor can take care of with an antibiotic.


Naughty

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Oh no&#33;
That&#39;s one of those odd bits of information that if anyone now finds out that I know they&#39;ll assume I&#39;m some sort of weirdo with an unhealthy interest in vaginal smells&#33;

 

[naughty]

Originally posted by Dorset+Sep 14 2005, 11:04 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dorset &#064; Sep 14 2005, 11:04 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-naughty@Sep 14 2005, 10:43 AM
Dorset,

Not to be too graphic, but there are smells and there are smells. Contrary to popular notion, the "fishy" smell does not come from lack of hygiene necessarily. In fact, in some cases it comes from too much washing. What I mean is that the "fish" smell is usually an indication that someone&#39;s internal ph balance is out of kilter and the person has developed an infection because of it. This may come from a variety of things: medications, hormonal changes, unaccustomed sexual activity, deodarant soaps, perfumes, bubble bath, diet.   Quite often it is exacerbated by the person frantically attempting to wash away the embarassing odor. This is really something only doctor can take care of with an antibiotic.


Naughty

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Oh no&#33;
That&#39;s one of those odd bits of information that if anyone now finds out that I know they&#39;ll assume I&#39;m some sort of weirdo with an unhealthy interest in vaginal smells&#33;

[post=343097]Quoted post[/post]​

LOL&#33;

I wasnt trying to put you on the hot seat, dear. I just thought I would give you and others reading that handy bit of info to tuck away for future reference. We are all so sensitive about our most intimate areas I wouldnt want some uncouth person to say or do something that would offend while being totally off the mark .

Naughty K.
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