Gay guys and women

[collegeguy711]

Originally posted by madame_zora@Sep 11 2005, 10:00 AM
Collegeguy, that was a beautiful post!

Hey, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Seems to me you know yourself pretty well. If you ever do decide to indulge any curiousity you may have, let her know about your concerns and suggest she take the lead. If you decide not to, I think you'll be happy enough being who you are.

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:loveya: Thanks Madame Zora :yourock:

 

[B_Hung Muscle]

Originally posted by jonb@Sep 13 2005, 05:07 AM
Oh, about the fence-jumping, this is interesting because straight guys, if we even consider crossing over, it's going to be with a manly man. Someone who contradicts all the stereotypes about gay men.

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Wow, must be cool that you get to speak for all straight men and their proclivities for sexual adventures with another guy. Trust me, not all straight guys jump the fence for "manly men who contradict all the stereotypes about gay men." I can point you to any given Saturday night to 10th Avenue around the 40s on the west side of Manhattan -- there are dozens of straight men who shop the streets for transvestites, pre-op transsexuals and all kinds of biological in dresses.

 

[B_Hung Muscle]

Originally posted by collegeguy711@Sep 11 2005, 03:47 AM
Just my humble opinions. :dunce:

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Your opinions are great to read, collegeguy. Excellent post, especially since the topic of this thread was directed to gay men, I am stoked to read the musings of a younger gay guy on the subject.

 

[tightfit]

Originally posted by Shamrock@Sep 12 2005, 12:04 AM
Interesting responses guys. I asked this because the mother of a mate of mine was recently asked by a gay guy to have sex because he was curious as to what a vagina felt like. Wondered how common it was.

One more thing, putting aside physical asthetics and going purely on sensation, which is better to you, vagina or butt?

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The latter!

 

[face_jism]

I am intensely curious about vaginas, but not about women generally. Other than the vagina, there is nothing about a woman's body that arouses me. The curvy shape, breasts, and overall bodily structure leave me soft. Women's bodies don't repulse me, but don't interest me either.

Vaginas are a totally different story. I've never had sex with a woman or even seen one up close, but I am fascinated with the idea of a well-positioned, clean, muscular tube that lubricates itself with an natural, edible fluid. I would very much like to know how one would feel gripping my penis. I also find the labiae attractive. I love to watch male/female porn as long as the guy is hot and the woman isn't too gross (which is increasingly rare). For some reason, watching a cute guy licking a vagina excites me tremendously, although I know he's probably doing a poor job of it. I think I could enjoy perfoming cunnilingus. I like it best when he bangs her from behind, since the visuals of his cock and her cunt are clear and the fucking is usually wet and vigorous. To some extent I identify with his male thrusting and could see myself doing the same, but at the same time I am fixated on his huge dick and how it would feel inside me.

However, all of these thoughts are concerning condomless sex (another reason I like male/female porn). I don't think there would be much point for me to try having vagina sex if I had to wear a condom. So I don't think it's going to happen.

In my ideal world, the hot boys that I want to fuck would have vaginas. Whether they also had penises or not wouldn't matter to me. But they would need to have a boy's face, muscles, chest and preferably some body hair.

When I want a man to fuck me, then I would also want to have a vagina. I think this obsession with the mechanics of heterosexual sex is related to the development of my sexuality. Before I consciously realized that I was gay, for years all of my sexual fantasies were ostensibly heterosexual, in the sense that I fantasized about a stud I knew, whose long penis I had seen, fucking some girl. I shouldn't even say girl, it was a nameless, faceless, almost formless female entity. Of course, that female entity was really just a substitute for me. Young as I was, I fervently believed that his cock was 15 inches long. The fantasy was always the same, him just lying on top of "her" thrusting his huge organ in and out of her vagina.

So, I've always wanted to have this primordial male fuck me in this area which I guess would be just below my scrotum. I've always wanted to have the freedom to just spread my legs and have all those gorgeous men who love to fuck vaginas inside me. Of course, I transfer those desires to anal sex, but I think of it in heterosexual terms. In my mind, on some level, I think of my ass as a cunt.

I also want the same deal with the boys I want to fuck. I want them to have hot, juicy cunts. I'm not gay because I like assholes or anal sex. I'm gay because I like everything else about men. I learned to deal with butt sex because that's the only option available to a man who likes to fuck men. Butt sex is good. I've had the best sexual experiences of my life while getting fucked. However, anal sex requires a lot of cleaning and lubrication. Analingus is much less safe than cunnilingus.

I think the closest I may ever get to vaginal sex is an encounter with a heterosexual couple. I would love to serve both partners orally until they are ready to fuck, then I would lick around the point of penetration, concentrating on his balls. If he wanted to alternate, he could pull out and fuck my face periodically and then plunge back into the pussy. When he climaxes inside or on her cunt, I would lick all of the jism and pussy juice off of his hard cock and milk any last drops from his shaft. Then I would greedily eat all of the cum and juices out of her dripping swollen cunt. I haven't done any of these things, but I want to try.

 

[BBB2.5]

Well...this Gay men has never thought about what a vagina would feel like. Since I am a total bottom guy. The thought of me thrusting into a female body doesn't appeal to me. Now, I do think the the female body is a beautiful thing. I am not sexually attracted to them, This relates to my question about ... st8 men and gay men getting it on..... It just goes to show that we all think and feel the same. While most st8 men are not sexually attracted to men, some are. The same goes for gay men and women.
:hi:

 

[face_jism]

Originally posted by BBB2.5@Oct 26 2005, 04:21 AM
I do think the the female body is a beautiful thing.

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I am the opposite. I don't spend any time looking at women's bodies or evaluating them as beautiful or not. I would feel awkward if I had to do so.

 

[girlwhocantakealot]

Originally posted by collegeguy711@Sep 11 2005, 02:47 AM

I don't hate women, I don't wanna be a woman, and
I'm not afraid of breasts or a vagina. I like women. :yourock:
In fact that might be part of the issue with gay guys.
I think some of us like women too much to sexualize them.
We love women too much on a platonic level, actresses,
singers, etc. (Hence all the diva gay icons.)
Part of me feels dirty having sexual thoughts about them.
I look at woman and think of equals or sisters, whereas I
can look at a man and see him on a purly sexual level
without a second thought. :loveya: The case is probably
visa versa with st8 guys. Again maybe part of what makes
us who we are and who we're into. Just my humble opinions. :dunce:

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:beer: I'll drink to that :loveya:

 

[jonb]

Equality irrelevant, we CAN have sexual thoughts about them.

 

[modernhomo]

I've only ever been with men, yet when filling out the percentages of homo-hetero sexuality I didn't put 100% gay because I DO want to sleep with a woman, maybe only one if it's no good. haha

I don't exactly know how to go about doing this, at least I know I will be the top, that part is figured out.

I even like and watch straight porn, and it looks fun! But after 8 years of sleeping with men I don't know if it's too late to go to women. Good thing I am pretty masculine because I don't know if a woman would want to get fucked by a feminine gay dude, but maybe a masculine bi-curious gay dude would be ok.

Who knows. Any ideas?

 

[Joh]

Had sex with a girl twice to find out what its like. The girl and I were friends. It was a good experience. I prefer men in everyway. I have, I believe, a pyschological misunderstanding (fucked upness if you will) about blood coming out of the vagina

which turns me off to interest of sex with women. I can recognize an attractive well fit female body, but I find a well fit male body much more attractive and I love everything about the penis. Wish I didn't have this bloody vagina thing going on....

 

[dcwrestlefan]

had an interesting experience tonight related to this topic.

i was at a high school alumni event, and met up with a girl i have not seen in over 20 years. knew her starting in 8th grade. she is very pretty, incredibly sweet, intelligent, and she showed some interest (went apeshit when she saw me given the length of time its been). she lost her husband about a year ago in a car accident. not sure if it was sympathy or what, but the thoughts of being with her crossed my mind briefly. maybe i should amend the profile to 97/3 or something.

i know it would be a bad idea though. she's been through shit recently. doesn't need any more from this homo.

 

[invisibleman]

Personally, I have never had the desire for women. When I was going through puberty (which lasted until my second year of college--I was a very late bloomer and went to the doctor over it), my fellow middle school male associates were already hooking up with girls and such--kissing, holding hands, slipping the other notes in the locker--that sort of thing. I didn't have these experiences. I always had a hard time making friends and trying to fit in. With everything happening, I used to feel left out socially and wondered why. At the time, it seemed that every boy had a girlfriend and I didn't-- so what was wrong with me. Even though I didn't know it at the time, I fell in love with a boy in middle school gym class. Nothing happened between us. I just felt giddy and warm inside everytime we had a conversation (He did most of the talking--I just listened). When you're a kid you B.S. a lot. He talked about his girlfriend liked her pussy eaten out. He fucked her sweet adorable pussy-- that type bull. At the time, I think the only thing I've said to him with consistency was, "That's cool." That, boy later went to another school in another district. But, there was another kid I believed he had serious psychological problems. He wore leather jackets and chaps ( like a little leather man from The Village People). He must've had gone through puberty and then some. He was very, very in your face if he liked you. He liked me and even groped me in the lockerroom. He must've known something about me to have done that. I didn't like him in a love sort of way. Looking back, I know I didn't like him at all. Near the end of the school year, he pushed me up against the lockers and screamed at me, "Why can't I have you !? You are gonna suck me." The coach pulled him off of me and I never saw the boy again. I really didn't understand all that was going on at the time--I was a kid.
We had a sex education class which talked about puberty and heterosexual mating and coupling. Never talked about the feelings.
Back to the question about "Do gay men have interest in fucking a woman?" and this is my honest answer: I don't have the desire in me to pursue a sexual relationship with a straight woman. In my opinion, straight women are for straight men. I never had it. Sometimes straight women perceive my inabilities as hard-to-get, I just don't have that desire. I am very gay male oriented sexually. I love gay men. I admire sexy straight men but I don't push myself on straight men because they are sexy to me. I do have a lot of sexy straight guys who are my friends. Some straight women are a little audacious with gay men like me by getting really forward and personal like they really know my needs ( A taunt disguised as friendly advice) and say to me, "All you need is a good woman to set you straight. You need a girlfriend." Then I tell them, "If you say so, then where is your woman? Where is your fuckin' girlfriend? If you like women so much to want me to date them then you go date them." Only a small fraction of women are like this. I have plenty of straight female and lesbian friends. Otherwise, I don't have any problems with women socially. Vaginas are for those that admire them. I am not sexually attracted to women and I am okay with that. Invisibleman

 

[p36]

I, too, have never been attracted to women. But before I finally accepted myself as gay, I would try. I've had the beginnings of relastionships with quite a few women in my life, and with none of them did I become sexually aroused in the slightest. I've disappointed a few of them--I guess they really fell for me, and intellectually, I could see being with them, but not sexually. In almost every case, they were embarassed that they weren't able to sexually arouse me.

That was torture for me, for many years of my adult life, trying to be what my brother, my mom, and my dad wanted.

But a few years ago, one accidental encounter with a hung gay male, and I was instantly aroused. Hence my interest in lpsg.

This is my first post here, after looking around for about a week. Seems like most of the members--both men and women--are honest about their own sexuality, who accept each other, and who seem genuinely interested in understanding and helping each other.

 

[Matthew]

Although I knew I was gay since puberty, I was in the closet until college. I dated girls/women quite a bit up through that time. I was pretty successful at dating, I think in part because I had no fear of rejection (a good excuse not to be with a girl) and thus seemed confident (often an attractive quality). I tried but couldn't be sexual with women and I knew why. Later I would break up with girls right before the time when sex should come into play. I feel bad about it now because I hurt other people's feelings in addition to the anguish of the lie that I was living.

Having sex with only men feels natural to me. I'm not truly attracted to women sexually, although I am curious about straight sexuality, some porn, etc. I wonder if I would be more open to sex with women now if it hadn't been such a fucked up pressure in my teens.

 

[deewil]

Dorset, Not to be too graphic, but there are smells and there are smells. Contrary to popular notion, the "fishy" smell does not come from lack of hygiene necessarily. In fact, in some cases it comes from too much washing. What I mean is that the "fish" smell is usually an indication that someone's internal ph balance is out of kilter and the person has developed an infection because of it.

That odor is merely from the moisture or secretion that has built up in the vagina. FWIW, I had a boyfriend several years ago who was uncircumcized and I noticed the moisture in the glans of his penis smelled similar to the so-called "fish" smell in my pussy. And if someone complains about the smell of us women, how about the smell of the anus, of either a woman's or man's? To me, that's really not appealing at all.

 

[face_jism]

And if someone complains about the smell of us women, how about the smell of the anus, of either a woman's or man's? To me, that's really not appealing at all.

I have not made any such complaint and doubt I would have a problem with the odors of a clean vagina, but are you talking about the natural smell of the butt when it is clean, or the smell of shit? They are quite different.

 

[contranimal]

Ive never though about it myself ... Ive been gay all my life, and when it comes to sex I will admit I am a bottom ... its kind of hard to have sex with a female when your a bottom ... what are you gonna do bump butts LOL

 

[NoctisNovum]

That odor is merely from the moisture or secretion that has built up in the vagina. FWIW, I had a boyfriend several years ago who was uncircumcized and I noticed the moisture in the glans of his penis smelled similar to the so-called "fish" smell in my pussy. And if someone complains about the smell of us women, how about the smell of the anus, of either a woman's or man's? To me, that's really not appealing at all.

So I have to admit, I love the smell of a clean ass.

I too was pussy curious. My third year of college I hooked up with an FtM who had not had bottom surgery. That encounter was my first and only contact with pussy so far, but I really want to do it again.

But I am not sure if I will ever get a chance to try sex out with a woman. I am not sure how to go about initiating a sexual encounter, and how to explain I am just interested in sex, because I do not have an emotional attraction for women (or physical aside from the vagina).

Any ideas?

 

[sixtwo190]

I very much want to be with a woman. Very much.