Gay guys who like pussy.

[hoag]

That's what I'm talking about. Also there's a massive difference also between homosexuality and gay identity and it's gay culture which promotes and encourages misogyny amongst gay men; too often than not I've seen gay men discredit their relationships and sex lives with women to be accepted as genuine gays by other gay men.

Exactly!
Maybe I'm biased as someone who floats around 2–4 on the Kinsey scale but terminology like "gold-star gay" makes me roll my eyes. Sometimes I just want to shout "just because someone played with women a few times when they were 18 doesn't make them not homosexual/gay at 28!" at the people who use these terms but it's useless lol. (I'd say the same thing about gay women who use "gold-star lesbian" as well)
But anyway, to stop myself from rambling: I don't know why people who had late sexual "awakenings" (i.e. realised their own sexuality later in life than usual) always feel the need to go 10x harder than people who didn't have late awakenings and were comfortable in their own sexuality by teen/college years. It just feels… extra. Like, you still enjoy dick; nobody's going to be able to change that except your own brain if your sexuality fluctuates.

 

[deleted10500801]

But anyway, to stop myself from rambling: I don't know why people who had late sexual "awakenings" (i.e. realised their own sexuality later in life than usual) always feel the need to go 10x harder than people who didn't have late awakenings and were comfortable in their own sexuality by teen/college years. It just feels… extra. Like, you still enjoy dick; nobody's going to be able to change that except your own brain if your sexuality fluctuates.

100% agree.

There's a lot of issues with guys who come out late which seem to be taboo to discuss in gay culture.

 

[Stephenmass]

Your right I had lot shame because come from very close mind family but now I am who I am .

Being who you are is nothing to be ashamed of. If it's you, and you are attracted to same sex, it is you being you. You didn't make a choice, you just are.

 

[Stephenmass]

100% agree.

There's a lot of issues with guys who come out late which seem to be taboo to discuss in gay culture.

It shouldn't be. Many guys are fluid.

 

[brandon38]

Being who you are is nothing to be ashamed of. If it's you, and you are attracted to same sex, it is you being you. You didn't make a choice, you just are.

Thank you for kind words

 

[BIGBULL29]

A big part of sexual attraction is smell and I think straight guys get really turned on to the smell of pussy. I was married/ trying to be straight 45 years ago and loved eating my wife out as a young person as I loved my wife. I have eaten the clean pussy of a massage client's girlfriend who he brought to a massage but stop if it starts smelling of a female. I saw a FTM escort twice and LOVED eating his cunt, but he smelled like a man because of the testosterone. It was the best of both world's and I loved the soft moistness and his big small penis like clit.

I need to find an FTM escort. LOL.

I don't like playing with a dude's dick, for some reason. Never did. I only like to see them and compare with mine. I just find it boring. I like male scent, male ass and male hardness (muscles) to some degree, but not interacting with dick or balls. It's bizarre.

I love pussy (interaction), though, as much as any super straight dude. I like lesbian porn, too, if the women are really into each other.

 

[Capitolhillguy]

I need to find an FTM escort. LOL.

I don't like playing with a dude's dick, for some reason. Never did. I only like to see them and compare with mine. I just find it boring. I like male scent, male ass and male hardness (muscles) to some degree, but not interacting with dick or balls. It's bizarre.

I love pussy (interaction), though, as much as any super straight dude. I like lesbian porn, too, if the women are really into each other.

That is strange. Lots of mostly straight guys ONLY like dick and nothing else from my experience with massage clients.

 

[dreambridger]

I don't see what you guys see. I've never encountered "encouraged misogyny" amongst gay men, and that sounds like a delusion that a homophobic person would have. I know that I've encountered homophobia and the hatred of gay men from people who claim to be LGBTs.... and the reason why the assertion @Hungus is making is so infuriating to me is that he's repeating what I heard from the bigoted fundamentalist Christians I grew up around -- I heard, "Men who say they're gay are just men who hate women", ALL the time, but I heard it from traditionalists, not progressives. Now he's using the same hate speech that I grew up around but saying it in a more-progressive-than-thou way, and it reaffirms my suspicion of just how covertly evil these ideologies surrounding a lot of contemporary trans activism really is. It's reversing a lot of the headway we've made in gay rights in the past couple of decades.

people who want to say your preferences and aversions don't matter and that everything is fluid are attacking your authenticity, in my opinion. Not to mention just creating a flimsy, vague, relativist reality where nothing really means anything. It's everything I stand against, and I can't remain silent about it. Does anybody see where I'm coming from, or am I just being dramatic and nuts?

 

[Mount Phalic]

I don't see what you guys see. I've never encountered "encouraged misogyny" amongst gay men, and that sounds like a delusion that a homophobic person would have. I know that I've encountered homophobia and the hatred of gay men from people who claim to be LGBTs.... and the reason why the assertion @Hungus is making is so infuriating to me is that he's repeating what I heard from the bigoted fundamentalist Christians I grew up around -- I heard, "Men who say they're gay are just men who hate women", ALL the time, but I heard it from traditionalists, not progressives. Now he's using the same hate speech that I grew up around but saying it in a more-progressive-than-thou way, and it reaffirms my suspicion of just how covertly evil these ideologies surrounding a lot of contemporary trans activism really is. It's reversing a lot of the headway we've made in gay rights in the past couple of decades.

people who want to say your preferences and aversions don't matter and that everything is fluid are attacking your authenticity, in my opinion. Not to mention just creating a flimsy, vague, relativist reality where nothing really means anything. It's everything I stand against, and I can't remain silent about it. Does anybody see where I'm coming from, or am I just being dramatic and nuts?

No, you’re not being dramatic or nuts. There are a few men on this site (thankfully, only a few) who see the world through the eyes of their fiercest would be oppressors. They virtue signal each other with nonsense, slogans, and self-hating propaganda.

 

[deleted10500801]

No, you’re not being dramatic or nuts. There are a few men on this site (thankfully, only a few) who see the world through the eyes of their fiercest would be oppressors. They virtue signal each other with nonsense, slogans, and self-hating propaganda.

Nonsense. The only oppressors are those who want to enforce compulsory monosexuality. Real liberation is being free of labels and cultural constructs around sexuality and having the freedom to consensually fuck and love who you want regardless of gender - without guilt or shame.

If you're mindset is 'all I'm into is [insert type, gender etc... here]' then you're only limiting yourself and your buying into the 'fiercest oppressors' game. Nobody is born straight or gay, there's no gene for either. Conservative oppressors and insecure people fear sexual fluidity because they can't control or predict which way desires and attractions will go.

 

[Donismon]

Nobody is born straight or gay, there's no gene for either.

Sexual fluidity is great an all, but that statement is not a fact. Straight and gay are constructs, but the vast majority of humans prefer someone of the opposite sex. Men have penises and women have vaginas, which creates a baby. That’s really the extent to physical sexuality.

 

[deleted10500801]

Sexual fluidity is great an all, but that statement is not a fact. Straight and gay are constructs, but the vast majority of humans prefer someone of the opposite sex. Men have penises and women have vaginas, which creates a baby. That’s really the extent to physical sexuality.

Human sexuality is about reproduction, bonding and pleasure. Yes, most people desire the opposite sex, BUT they also desire their own sex to some extent or degree. True monosexuals are a very small minority.

 

[dreambridger]

Nonsense. The only oppressors are those who want to enforce compulsory monosexuality. Real liberation is being free of labels and cultural constructs around sexuality and having the freedom to consensually fuck and love who you want regardless of gender - without guilt or shame.

If you're mindset is 'all I'm into is [insert type, gender etc... here]' then you're only limiting yourself and your buying into the 'fiercest oppressors' game. Nobody is born straight or gay, there's no gene for either. Conservative oppressors and insecure people fear sexual fluidity because they can't control or predict which way desires and attractions will go.

Why can't you see that you're just speaking for yourself, though? It might be real liberation for you, who's probably a very fluid bisexual, and that's fine if that's what you are, but you seem to be unable to accept that other people might be different from you and operate in a different way. I feel like the fairest and happiest world would be us accepting and even celebrating each other's differences, but it sounds to me like you would rather eliminate those differences altogether so that everyone thinks the same way, and I can only see that as a very dangerous way of thinking that's fascistic and dehumanizing and aiming to create some monochromatic lifeless uniformity.

 

[dante33]

I've never had any experience with a woman. Nothing at all. Hell, I was born by C-section so not even by birth xD

I consider myself gay BUT I do find straight porn and even female solo vids a turn-on. Sometimes I even fantasize about sex with a woman or what eating pussy would be like. I'd like to experiment but I don't see myself giving it a go and if the situation ever presents itself, the pressure to perform would probably kill my drive.

 

[Fishsqueezee69]

Sexual fluidity is great an all, but that statement is not a fact. Straight and gay are constructs, but the vast majority of humans prefer someone of the opposite sex. Men have penises and women have vaginas, which creates a baby. That’s really the extent to physical sexuality.

"Prefer" is the key operational word here.

 

[dante33]

Real liberation is being free of labels and cultural constructs around sexuality

I dunno you but a lot of current trends seem to center around creating a label for each and every specific and niche preference.

If you're mindset is 'all I'm into is [insert type, gender etc... here]' then you're only limiting yourself and your buying into the 'fiercest oppressors' game.

But most people WILL tell you they have a certain preference to gender, type, skin color, etc.
and that doens't mean they are limiting anything. They are simply stating that through their own experiences and observations, they have limited the scope of what they prefer to what they find most attractive.

 

[Donismon]

"Prefer" is the key operational word here.

That can also be changed to “attracted to”. Works both ways.

 

[4202HHN]

LOVE pussy, but only in three ways with straight dudes or fucking their women while they watch, or with transmen.

 

[Fishsqueezee69]

That can also be changed to “attracted to”. Works both ways.

Not the same word.

 

[Stephenmass]

Nobody is born straight or gay

I don't agree. You were born however you are, but don't lump us all into the way you were born or who you are at that point without knowing it seeing you were just born. A bisexual for example would be considered fluid. Born that way? A homosexual is only attracted to men. Born that way? A heterosexual is attracted to the opposite sex. Born that way? I'd think they are. I've yet to meet a bisexual who generally doesn't prefer their own sex, but that doesn't mean they don't enjoy getting down with a woman here and there. Fluid with a preference, etc. We all are who we are, I don't judge and never will. We are what we are, the same as you are what you are.