Gay marriage comes to New Hampshire; Anybody got a clue about NY?

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  1. D_Ireonsyd_Colonrinse

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    Finally. N.H. democratic governor John Lynch should sign gay marriage legislation into law this afternoon.

    The bill originally stalled because the governor wanted to make sure the legislation clarified that clergy, religious organizations would not be "forced" to participate in same-sex ceremonies, as same-sex marriage opponents were claiming (a common scare tactic).


    Or as Nick8 would remind us: "More dominoes falling!"

    New Hampshire is domino #6 to fall.

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    Also, I posted something yesterday about the NY marriage legislation possibly being "in peril"...



    What's happening? Is this thing dematerializing?


    From today's Advocate website:


    N.Y. Senators Polled on Marriage Vote


    By Julie Bolcer

    Results from an exclusive survey of New York state senators released today by NY1 show that marriage-equality legislation could be “in peril,” according to the New York City–based cable news channel. The question of where many lawmakers stand on the bill remains a highly sensitive subject among Albany insiders.

    NY1 asked all 62 lawmakers how they would vote on the bill should it be brought to a vote before the legislative session ends in three weeks. According to the tally, 27 senators -- 22 Republicans and five Democrats -- would oppose the bill, while 20 Democrats would support it. Ten senators said they were undecided, and five declined to say where they stand.

    The marriage-equality legislation needs 32 votes to pass the senate, which means that if only four of the 15 undecided or undeclared senators voted against it, the bill would fail.

    N.Y. Senators Polled on Marriage Vote | News | Advocate.com


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    Anyway. I'm glad New Hampshire is happening now. I got a bit depressed after the CA Supreme Court upheld the prop 8 ban (those awful conservative anti-marriage equality groups like the National Organization for Marriage were claiming"victory" -- and Fox News anchors were smirking while conveying the news).


    This is all connected to something bigger than gay marriage. Marriage equality means that 12-year-old gay kid growing up in Kansas can envision a future life were gay people are accepted as normal. The normalization of gay people. I grew up in the 1980's, and I think it would have been more healthy to envision a life for myself beyond gay bars and gay ghettos and a sexual life of one-night-stands.
     
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    Here ya go, Will. This is part of an e-mail I received today from the Human Rights Campaign:

    Volunteer for Marriage Equality
    Syracuse, Rochester, or Westchester
    Join HRC Organizers Jeremy, David and Brendan for ongoing volunteer opportunities throughout the week and weekend. Sign-up to phonebank, to help constituents write letters to their state senator, or to talk to your neighbors about the need for marriage equality. Training will be provided for all activities. All we need is your time.

    Rochester: e-mail Jeremy at jpmull@gmail.com or call 617-669-4412
    Syracuse: e-mail David at HRCSyracuse@gmail.com or call 301-651-8518
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    New York City
    Volunteer to help reach out to supporters all over New York and give them the necessary information to contact their state senators.
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    News Updates from New York
    Governor Paterson at NY Marriage Rally
    New York Governor David Paterson—the sponsor of the marriage bill currently before the legislature—delivered poignant remarks to the thousands recently assembled in midtown Manhattan. Watch Video »

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    I think it's tough to say where NY is right now but pro-marriage forces are marshaling especially in view of the California vote. Will, keep in mind the the CA supreme court did not vote against same sex marriage. It was a legal question of whether or not Proposition 8 constituted a bona fide change to the constitution of the state of California and they ruled that it did. Obviously, that same constitution can be changed "back" by another statewide vote, and it will, in time.

    Our victory in New Hampshire, coming now as it does, only puts more pressure on legislators in New York state. Unfortunately, David Patterson doesn't have a lot of political capital at the moment and he's our biggest supporter. Also unfortunately, since New York would represent a huge victory for same sex marriage, I've got everything I have two of crossed. It's becoming very painful.
     
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    Also unfortunately, since New York would represent a huge victory for same sex marriage, I've got everything I have two of crossed.

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    Speaking of two body parts crossing (I'm thinking eyes in particular), here is our favorite vid of Barb and Judy singing "Happy days are here again".... appropriate for New Hampshire today. A sort of somber "Get Happy" because it's bittersweet with NY still "in peril".


    YouTube - Judy Garland Barbra Streisand Duet - Get Happy / Happy Days Are Here Again
     
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    really, I keep wondering how far the left is willing to push it in NY

    Unfortunately, lefties are still divided about it. Sad fact since MOST lgbt tend to be democrats
     
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    now face and star have one more choice where they can tie the knot why ruin two good families.
     
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    You always know just what to do to cheer me up. :biggrin1:
     
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    I understand they're waiting for Utah to fall so they can add Nick of the 6s to the mix.
     
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    OK, just *once* I am going to violate my self-imposed prohibition on posting in the Politics forum to say ...

    As a married heterosexual in New Hampshire, I am so damn proud of my little state tonight. :biggrin1:
     
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    A friend of mine joked that Mitt Romney lived in Massachusetts and when the state decided to make gay marriage legal, he crossed the border to New Hampshire to get away from it. Now, New Hampshire legalized it. Here's hoping that Romney keeps hopping his happy Mormon ass across the country, leaving behind a trail of rainbows and anti-discrimination. :)
     
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    Here's a story just perfect for this New Hampshire Marriage thread:

    Two Gay Penguins And A Chick: German Zoo Pair Raising Baby



    BERLIN — A German zoo says a pair of gay male penguins are raising a chick from an egg abandoned by its parents.

    Bremerhaven zoo veterinarian Joachim Schoene says the egg was placed in the male penguins' nest after its parents rejected it in late April. The males incubated it for some 30 days before it hatched and have continued to care for it. The chick's gender is not yet known.

    Schoene said the male birds, named Z and Vielpunkt, are one of three same-sex pairs among the zoo's 20 Humboldt penguins that have attempted to mate.
     
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