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Discussion in 'Et Cetera, Et Cetera' started by Webster, Mar 30, 2006.
Yes, but Iv also heard that gays are 15 times more likly to be involved in traffic accidents, can someone explain that.
Ignore the idiot, he is practicing the fine but overused art of plucking numbers out of thin air and writing them as fact.
Actually Webster, read it again. He's saying that 73% of gay men are child molesters. I wonder if he's ever met a gay man before.
I have 2 nieces. I worship them, they're the light of my life. Unfortunately, they live in England, so I don't see them very often, but when I do, I babysit them, I change their nappies, I bathe them. I would jump infront of a speeding truck rather than see any harm come to them.
People abuse children. Sick, twisted, evil people. Some of them identify as gay, some straight. From what I've read on the subject, child abuse is rarely about sexuality, and more about power and control.
Sorry, but you're just perpuating his bigoted views by sharing them in the public domain. They don't even deserve comment.
who the hell is popsicleman and where is his source(s)?
Research clearly shows that pediophilia and homosexuality are not the same. It further shows that the overwhelming majority of pedophiles are HETEROSEXUAL.
Let's read together:
HOMOSEXUALITY AND PEDOPHILIA: The False link
[FONT=arial, helvetica] Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation[/FONT]
Statistics show that about 10 percent of the population is admitted gay. And about 10- percent of child molesters are gay. There is no correlation of straight, bi or gay preferences and and child molestation.
i don't know why some people are sexaully attracted to children. Some experts say that it is not sexual attraction but power. I don't know.
that's more like it, Lex. thanks.
Yah Freddie, from what I have read/learned in school, Pedophilia is about power and control. Those who are attracted to children are attracted to the aspect that they are innocent and easily manipulated/controlled. Their youth and inexperience calls out to the pedophiles.
It has also been said that some pedophiles are aroused by children due to some sort of sexual trauma they experienced as a child themselves, but I am not in agreeance with this factoid. Plenty of people experience some sort of sexual trauma, and they don't become pedophiles or some sort of sexual predator.
It has nothing to do with gender or sexual preference.
In my previous post, I was speaking as a member.
Now I am speaking as a moderator:
This thread is being allowed because the subject is the relationship between being gay and also being sexually attracted to children or adults molesting children. In short, is it true that there is a correlatoin between the two.
This thread is not about the glorification of pedophilia. Should this thread be hijacked and turned into a glorification of pedophilia, it will be closed or the offending posts will be deleted.
I felt it was wise to give fair warning
Pedophilia is neither heterosexual nor homosexual. It is pedophilia. Heterosexual = sexual attraction to opposite gender; homosexual = sexual attraction to the same gender; pedophilia = sexual attraction to children.
Thanks for that further clarification, DC_DEEP.
A more accurate sentence from me would have read that the overwhelming majority of pedophiles identify themselves as heterosexual.
Your point is both clarifying and paradigm-changing.
So there's no distinction between same and opposite sex with children? That seems strange.
Actually, popsicleman posted them in the public domain, Webster is merely ensuring that we all are made aware of the bigoted views and inaccurate statistics quoted by popsicleman:
His references to A SPECIFIC PEDO SITE later in that thread may count as evidence of the existence of an organization whose project is to normalize man-boy relations, but it should be noted that:
(i) THE PEDO ORGANIZATION MENTIONED BY POPSICLEMAN has been the focus of FBI investigation for decades
(ii) the FBI found only 1100 members OF THE PEDO ORGANIZATION HE MENTIONED worldwide in 1995, when the organization was already 18 years old [insert ironic smiley]
(iii) today, the organization exists merely as a mail-box address and online presence and communicates solely through newsletters, rather than responding to enquiries or continuing to hold meetings
(iv) the last time it was given any substantial mention in the press in 2005, it was assessed as a "little-known group":
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Part of THAT PEDO ORGANIZATION's approach is to seek to blur the paradigmatic boundaries between homosexuality and pedophilia in order to present the latter as something other than a separate issue. It is hideous to see popsicleman replicating the same argument with his fictitious statistics, albeit to different ends.
not unless you're a pedophile, i would think
The point is that pedophilia is paradigmatically different to homosexuality or heterosexuality, and that to conflate these terms is misleading, to say the least. That does not preclude the possibility of primary attraction to boys or to girls within the context of pedophilia.
Forgive me Freddie but you've lost me in this paragraph. I'm having a blonde moment and I've had a long day. Could you clarify what you mean?
It's true 'there is a correlation between' what 'two'??
Ciao biondo... between these two, as per the claims made by popsicleman on these boards.
Are there not pedophiles who are interested in little girls as well? TO lump Pedophilia as a gay disorder is nonsense.
Does anyone think the reason the male pedophilia is brought up more is due to the fact that it combines two of societies fears? Hurting children and homosexuality?
It's like the WORST of both worlds.
Key to remember here is that we know this "link" does not exist, regardless of how we feel about the social and theoretical constructs in and of themselves.