Gay ? Pedophiles ?

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Freddie53 said:
In my previous post, I was speaking as a member.

Now I am speaking as a moderator:

This thread is being allowed because the subject is the relationship between being gay and also being sexually attracted to children or adults molesting children. In short, is it true that there is a correlatoin between the two.

This thread is not about the glorification of pedophilia. Should this thread be hijacked and turned into a glorification of pedophilia, it will be closed or the offending posts will be deleted.



I felt it was wise to give fair warning
Freddie, I am giving you the benefits of the doubt, but I wonder what you would do with topics about the inferiority of jews, women, blacks etc. in relationship to others. It seems to me there is a lot of noise and trash in the world, and that you have to have some reasons for allowing it into your home, or letting into a solid, wonderful space like this site. Its possible to imagine a thread about people who believe heroin is not addictive, for example, or that alcoholism is a made up disease, or that the holocaust did not occur. Do you simply trust your gut on what you don't mind hearing, and what you do? Or do you have selection criteria when it comes to inflammatory topics?
 

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Stronzo said:
Ciao uomo ben dotato...

Cavolo! Grazie mille il mio amico tedesco. Oggi, ho lavorato troppo e sono stanchissimo.:redface:
ora lavorato, il mio amico, significate tirare?
 

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Geez guys, READ! Freddie said "Is there a correlation" not "There IS a correlation"! He said he left the thread open because we were discussing IF there is one.

Mkymkus, the reason that this topic differs from the other ones you mentioned is because glorifying pedophelia is illegal and could cause the site to be shut down. We mods are only looking to protect the site.
 

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popsicleman said:

See, Popsicle

You are saying that MOST are males molesting males. I dont' see the proof or the facts involved. The problem with Studies and facts is, they only portray a small sample of people. These studies did not likely speak to every single person in the world who has been accused of Pedophilia. It is also likely that this study could have only spoken to convicted fellons or only spoke to people within a specific area that may be more likely to have pedophilia.

I am just trying to understand your facts. 73% seems to be a great deal larger than I can believe, esspecially with the multitude of cases involving young girls and older men. It's just a thought.

A lot of people need lessons in comprehension. No one said it was a gay disease, I said 73% happened to be homosexual. It's like saying that 49% of all incarcerated are African American. It doesn't say all African Americans are in jail. Some of you fops are just so stupid.
Popsicle,

I think you need to reconsider that statement. The phrase I chose to use was just in reference to your comment that 73% of pedophiles are homosexual or that 73% of homosexuals are pedophiles. I would appreciate it, if you sat back and read things properly as apposed to refering to me as a fop or being stupid.

I am very far from stupid, having received my degree in Psych, specializing in sexuality and sexual disorders. Consider being kind to those who just want to understand where you are coming from.
 

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madame_zora said:
Geez guys, READ! Freddie said "Is there a correlation" not "There IS a correlation"! He said he left the thread open because we were discussing IF there is one.

Mkymkus, the reason that this topic differs from the other ones you mentioned is because glorifying pedophelia is illegal and could cause the site to be shut down. We mods are only looking to protect the site.
I'm still not quite getting something. Glorifying the burning and lynching of blacks down south is also illegal. Would you allow threads about that, but just carefully scrutinize them?

I am not trying to be antagonistic or disrespectful. I just sense a rational contradiction here that is important. I think it is easy to overlook because it is still fun in large parts of society to attack gays, directly or indirectly, just like it was fun to attack other groups in earlier periods. I think entertaining an absolutely preposterious "idea" like this one is confusing at best.
 

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popsicleman said:
1. Did you bother to read the articles posted by Lex above, which draw on a broad range of surveys and sources?

2. Did you bother to read my post on how insignificant THE PEDO SITE YOU MENTIONED is in the big picture?

3. Will you stop advising people to visit THE PEDO SITE YOU MENTIONED, which glorifies pedophilia with boys? Unless you place greater content warnings in front of your requests to do so, I might start questioning what your true agenda is here.

4. Would you stop asserting that you are posting 'facts', when you are merely posting conjecture that you have inferred from a small number of disparate reports?

5. Would you like to discuss the use of naked children in your own artwork and collages, which might readily be construed as more than a little sinister by some? --

Examples here were removed by moderators.

Numbered answers addressing each question clearly might well be useful, since your posts seem to wander and/or circumvent issues that are brought up otherwise.
 

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Mykymkus said:
I'm still not quite getting something. Glorifying the burning and lynching of blacks down south is also illegal. Would you allow threads about that, but just carefully scrutinize them?

I am not trying to be antagonistic or disrespectful. I just sense a rational contradiction here that is important. I think it is easy to overlook because it is still fun in large parts of society to attack gays, directly or indirectly, just like it was fun to attack other groups in earlier periods. I think entertaining an absolutely preposterious "idea" like this one is confusing at best.
Your cognitive dissonance around these issues is a subject for another thread.

@ popsicleman
An adult male molesting a male child makes him a pedophile. An adult male modelsting a female child makes him a pedophile.

Overwhelming research say this and the best you can "site" is an MSNBC "sting"?

Operations and "reports" run my media conglomorates situated to make advertising revenue off ads (net-, paper-, or tv-based) based on viewer- and reader-ship based on said "reports" aren't the strongest of sources.
 

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Mkymkus said:
I'm still not quite getting something. Glorifying the burning and lynching of blacks down south is also illegal. Would you allow threads about that, but just carefully scrutinize them?

I am not trying to be antagonistic or disrespectful. I just sense a rational contradiction here that is important. I think it is easy to overlook because it is still fun in large parts of society to attack gays, directly or indirectly, just like it was fun to attack other groups in earlier periods. I think entertaining an absolutely preposterious "idea" like this one is confusing at best.

Well, since you're being pedantic, I'll spell it out. Please read carefully because I don't want to make an all day discussion out of the obvious.

If it were determined by "the powers that be" NOT US that this site was being used by pedophiles to attract victims, we could be shut down.

If it were determined that on THIS SITE we were organising lynchings of blacks, we could be shut down.

We will NOT allow any discussion that we feel (the mod's decision, not yours) could jeopardise the site. Also, in this current political climate, it has recently (this month) been judged in the Supreme Court that websites can be judged pornographic or whatever else BY ANY COMMUNITY STANDARDS IN WHICH THEY ARE ACCESSIBLE! I hope everyone understands what this means. That means if some rural town in Idaho's court says were pandering to pedophelia, we could be shut down!

To further exacerbate the situation, the owner and moderators can be held accountable for the content, so that means it's OUR asses, not yours. I hope this is crystal clear, because I'm sick of repeating it for every member who didn't read it the first time, when I posted the article about the Supreme Court.

edit- the nature of THIS SITE being sexual means that it would be far more likely that we'd have pedophiles here than lynchmobs. We may really have some, and we certainly don't want to encourage them. We might also have FBI agents or googlebots just combing the pages trying to see what they can find. I hope you understand NOW.
 

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Popsickleman, I'm deleting your post advertising for that organisation. As a moderator, that's not the type of ad this site supports. If you insist on this train of thought, you will be banned. That is all.
 

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I'd like to thank the mods for doing a bloody good job!

Popsicle, your "most paedophiles abuse boys therefore gays are paedophiles" is so ridiculous a notion it's comparable to "fire engines are red therefore postboxes are fire engines" (Fire engines and post boxes in the UK are red).

By that same notion, since a man raping a woman is heterosexual, all heterosexual males are rapists. This is obviously an equally absurd notion.

I didn't click on alex's links to popsicle's artwork, but this is starting to sound like a call - start a thread about paedophiles in order to see who defends it, and is therefore a "like mind".
 

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Irvy said:
I'd like to thank the mods for doing a bloody good job!

Popsicle, your "most paedophiles abuse boys therefore gays are paedophiles" is so ridiculous a notion it's comparable to "fire engines are red therefore postboxes are fire engines" (Fire engines and post boxes in the UK are red).

By that same notion, since a man raping a woman is heterosexual, all heterosexual males are rapists. This is obviously an equally absurd notion.

I didn't click on alex's links to popsicle's artwork, but this is starting to sound like a call - start a thread about paedophiles in order to see who defends it, and is therefore a "like mind".

Oh Irvy,
Your observation astounds me. I didn't even think of this as a ruse to get others to join his group. Very clever you are (said in yoda voice):biggrin1:
 

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I read that 80% of people who have died in a plane crash eat pickles.

There are so many statistics out there and just reading it on the Internet does not make it true.

Benjamin Disraeli , the prime minister of the British Empire from 1874-1880, was reported by Mark Twain to have uttered this brilliant quote on statistical analysis: “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.”

That being said, to suggest (or state) that homosexuals abuse children at a higher rate than heterosexuals is without basis in fact.

TJ
 

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madame_zora said:
Popsickleman, I'm deleting your post advertising for that organisation. As a moderator, that's not the type of ad this site supports. If you insist on this train of thought, you will be banned. That is all.

I edited all his shit out and will do so with the rest of his posts while we vote on an immediate ban.

Yes, Popsicle--I mean YOU.
 

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madame_zora said:
Geez guys, READ! Freddie said "Is there a correlation" not "There IS a correlation"! He said he left the thread open because we were discussing IF there is one.

I did read. I can read. I explained I'd had a long day. His post was confusing. Alex explained it for which I thanked him courteously in my Italian response.

Relax. Christ. Are we allowed to comment without you landing?:rolleyes:
 

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I like Mark Twain, Eulogy is one of my favourite poems:

Warm summer sun, shine kindly here
Warm southern wind, blow softly here
Green sod above, lie light, lie light
Good night, dear heart,
Good night, good night.

Anyway, there has been a lot of press coverage about paedophiles that have been allowed jobs as teachers or been 'relocated' right next to or facing schools with young children in them. A lot of those men abused boys.

However, it probably only seems that way due to the papers focussing at this moment in time on the mistake certain MP's have made in allowing convicted paedophiles and child molesters to work as teachers or to live near to children, unsupervised.

In another week or two the focus will be on something else, and the news channels might be talking about how there are so many heterosexual paedos preying on young girls and highlight few cases.

I think it's ridiculous to say that 73% of paedophiles are gay.

85% of necrophiliacs are nuns.
 

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Stronzo said:
I did read. I can read. I explained I'd had a long day. His post was confusing. Alex explained it for which I thanked him courteously in my Italian response.

Relax. Christ. Are we allowed to comment without you landing?:rolleyes:

Yes of course honey. You go on ahead and bitch your head off and I'll sit here with duct tape on my mouth. :rolleyes: