Gay Perverts

[yngjock20]

Marley-Marl...

This is an absolutely genius thread. It's so true that lately specifically, we've been inundated with people thinking it's cool to violate someones privacy for their own pleasures.

While in a fantasy world, it would be damn hot to be able to just grab someone's junk (unsolicited) and they'd respond with a "thanks, baby!" in reality, that's just plain wrong no matter who it is.

We have upskirts and bathroom cams and jerking in public...there's just too many people doing the wrong thing "because it feels good."

There's such a thing as going too far.

 

[marleyisalegend]

In your home you have an expectation of privacy. Out in public you should have no such expectations. Of all of the millions of people in America, you got one guy doing shameful but not illegal things. This is not a huge issue that needs some kind of recourse.

That said, if a picture of me is taken in public is used on a web page in a harmful way, I do have the right to sue for damages because I am not a public figure. But damages have to be proven. I doubt if a court is interested in me whining because someone showed a picture of my bulge. BIG DEAL. How many people see my bulge on the street every day anyway?

Marley, why do you even have issues with this stuff? And why do you think this is a gay issue? You should have figured out by now from reading the threads on this site that as many straight guys look at bulges and guys dicks in the locker room etc as gay guys. I find it pretty offensive to call this thread "gay perverts".

if by issues you mean notice than yes. if by issues you mean do i hide in my closet in the fetal position crying about it?? no. as far as the gay thing, that's a matter of interpretation. in my humble opinion, gay encompasses all forms of male attraction even if it goes no further than looking at pictures of men on the web. i came up in a time that was much more black and white, this is all new to me the "i'm not gay i just like sucking cocks" or "i'm not gay but big dicks turn me on".

ps, you still haven't answered my question: would you feel better about somebody taking pictures of your mother in public as long as they don't post them on the web?? please answer that question.

 

[victorgrimes]

BTW - I am completely offended by the title of this blog - a pervert is a pervert - gay straight or other is not the issue - the issue is compromising someone else's integrity or privacy. If someone is flashing, maybe.....Someone clothed - unless it is a $3000 suit, you'd better get permission.

 

[Principessa]

Be aware there is no, "case." The man was violating no law and was released without charge because he was recording people who were already visible in general public.

I understand this may be shocking in North Carolina, but you know women are free to walk around topless in New York and I don't think anybody really cares. In the grand scheme of everything that can happen in the city, this is a gnat on an elephant's ass.

Yeah, I remember when that law went into effect many years ago. The only women who took advantage of it were women nobody wanted to see naked anyway.

 

[HellsKitchenmanNYC]

Be aware there is no, "case." The man was violating no law and was released without charge because he was recording people who were already visible in general public.

I understand this may be shocking in North Carolina, but you know women are free to walk around topless in New York and I don't think anybody really cares. In the grand scheme of everything that can happen in the city, this is a gnat on an elephant's ass.

Also, more importantly, there was nocase against this guy b/c he also wasn't making any money off these cam episodes. He was just posting them on YouTube. He's since pulled them down.
Also alot of that stuff you see on the internet of guys getting groped or fondled while asleep are total set-ups. You can tell by watching them. That's no harm done as every guy has had that fantasy as a kid. Touching the HS jock etc.....
It is really an issue if it's unwelcomed and the person cannot resist the urge to do these things to other guys w/o their ok. That is really perverted.

 

[Primal_Savage]

This thread is extremely offensive but, par for the course

I agree and I'm just as offended as victorgrimes. While my buds and I and a few other guys that I met here on the forum jokingly refer to ourselves as perverts and sluts. It's a completely different matter to label a stranger or someone whom you don't know as such.

 

[Deno]

you seem to thrive on controversy I have to remember your name and not enter posts you author. My doctor told me to avoid controversy.

 

[2322]

okay don't let my bad example misconstrue my point. i guess this is a case of indivdual rights overlapping one another. you're certainly free to take a picture of a woman's boobs in public but, though that doesn't infringe on any specific right of hers, doesn't it atleast cause an issue with morality? IMO looking is a stretch because it can called human nature, but whats natural about taking a picture and posting on a website called candidpics or something of that nature?? do morals only come into play when there's a window in between the photographer and the subject. because the instant the woman steps into her home, the photographer is a peeping tom. how is something NOT acceptable inside a building, but completely acceptable outside of one??

Legally there are no overlapping rights. The photographer would have to make himself a nuisance to the person, essentially becoming a stalker, for there to be any legal issues. Random pictures in a single incident don't qualify because the law acknowledges that there is no expectation of privacy in public spaces. Even when someone is at home, that person has to make reasonably sure that the curtains and doors are closed if there is to be an expectation of privacy. Georgia held a couple guilty for the corruption of a minor and both were given the status of sex offenders because they had sex in their own home in their own bedroom and a kid next door managed to walk up to their window and see what they were doing between a slit in the curtain! The judge ruled that they did not take sufficient precaution to create a private situation and, therefore, were having sex in public view and that's illegal under Georgia law.

I'm concerned when you say, "looking is a stretch," because it really isn't. I have the idea something has happened to you to give you this kind of mindset. Were you raised very conservatively regarding sex? Were you taught sexual desire was dirty?

 

[yngjock20]

Yeah, I remember when that law went into effect many years ago. The only women who took advantage of it were women nobody wanted to see naked anyway.

UGH! I know, right?

Why is it that all the ugly people want to be naked all the time. It's like if anyone thought you were hot, you wouldn't have to strap a pork chop to your face to get some attention!*


*Entire post was written in pure jest.

 

[marleyisalegend]

I'm concerned when you say, "looking is a stretch," because it really isn't. I have the idea something has happened to you to give you this kind of mindset. Were you raised very conservatively regarding sex? Were you taught sexual desire was dirty?

no but since this is a small world, i may one day find that my child is being molested by a friend, and that the friend is bragging about it on this site. to make you guys understand this thread better, i beg anybody to answer these questions:

-how would you feel about somebody taking sexual pictures of one of your family members in public??

-how would you feel if you find out your son (who "likes girls) comes home and says the friend who's house he spent a night at, was fondling him in his sleep

-your boyfriend/girlfriend is out in public and a complete stranger rubbed their breast/genitilia purposefully

obviously with famine and droughts plaguing the world there are more pressing issues, but if that's what you wanna talk about, go to another thread, i wrote this thread in lieu of the article i read.

i don't want everybody wearing burkas in public and not looking at each other, but seriously, it's okay to touch people in their sleep?? to take pictures of people's crotches and boobs as long as its in public??

(noone has yet explained why this is okay in public, but as soon as there's a wall between you it's wrong)


i like how me wanting a little bit of privacy and not wanting to be molested makes me prude.

 

[D_Relentless Original]

you obviously missed the point. the article was a SEGUE into abuse, the same way a kanye-west thread may lead to a conversation about rap in general. PS i don't buy the "pubilc=legal" thing. if you do, please tell me when your mother will be leaving for work, i need to update my gallery, me and my friends need some new j/o material.

Marley, some of your comments in previous logs i have agreed with and even admired your bluntness and honesty, but, i am absolutely appalled that you could enter a comment like that about somebodies mother, no matter what your view/opinion is, i would be very annoyed and upset if you was to write things like that about my Mom, as i am sure you would be also,
bad taste fella, bad taste

 

[dong20]

... i beg anybody to answer these questions:

-how would you feel about somebody taking sexual pictures of one of your family members in public??

You need to be more precise in defining 'sexual'. Is the sexuality 'imagined' or are they engaged in 'sexual' acts? My response would be different. If there was no consent in either scenario I wouldn't be happy but I would accept I may have little or no recourse in law.

-how would you feel if you find out your son (who "likes girls) comes home and says the friend who's house he spent a night at, was fondling him in his sleep

That would be sexual assault. I would seek legal redress.I'd be furious, regardless of sexuality. What parent wouldn't?

-your boyfriend/girlfriend is out in public and a complete stranger rubbed their breast/genitilia purposefully

Again, sexual assault. Somewhat harder to prove, perhaps.

(noone has yet explained why this is okay in public, but as soon as there's a wall between you it's wrong)

Actually, it's been explained a number of times.

 

[marleyisalegend]

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Marley, some of your comments in previous logs i have agreed with and even admired your bluntness and honesty, but, i am absolutely appalled that you could enter a comment like that about somebodies mother, no matter what your view/opinion is, i would be very annoyed and upset if you was to write things like that about my Mom, as i am sure you would be also,
bad taste fella, bad taste

i understand it was in poor taste and the problem is that although it's certainly in bad taste, people in this thread are defending this "bad taste" as long as it doesn't apply to loved ones. taking pornographic pictures of people in public is actually being defended.... until it hits the home.

 

[2322]

i understand it was in poor taste and the problem is that although it's certainly in bad taste, people in this thread are defending this "bad taste" as long as it doesn't apply to loved ones. taking pornographic pictures of people in public is actually being defended.... until it hits the home.

You know, some people get off on women in long dresses, others get off on long eye lashes, and lord knows feet are a very popular sources of erotic titillation. Lot of guys I know liked to tear out the women's underwear section of catalogs when they first started getting interested in sex as boys. These are all things anyone might see any day. For all I know there are guys who get off on women wearing burqas.

They may be titillating, but they're not pornographic. There's a difference and what you're doing is confusing what might be found to be erotic with what is pornographic.

 

[marleyisalegend]

You know, some people get off on women in long dresses, others get off on long eye lashes, and lord knows feet are a very popular sources of erotic titillation. Lot of guys I know liked to tear out the women's underwear section of catalogs when they first started getting interested in sex as boys. These are all things anyone might see any day. For all I know there are guys who get off on women wearing burqas.

They may be titillating, but they're not pornographic. There's a difference and what you're doing is confusing what might be found to be erotic with what is pornographic.

por·nog·ra·phy :
obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like, esp. those having little or no artistic merit

i'd say taking pictures of someone's breast or ass unbeknownst to them is pretty obscene. once again, no one who's defending this is coming out and saying they'd be comfortable with somebody taking these kind of pictures of loved ones or family. sounds like someone's either misunderstanding me (which sometimes happens because of my wording) or someone is arguing for the sake of arguing

 

[D_Ivana Dickenside]

I love gay men, I love white men, I love asian women (as friends :wink...

stop denying it, you know you want me more than that! :tongue:

 

[marleyisalegend]

stop denying it, you know you want me more than that! :tongue:

yes but i'm playing the nervous-shy-but-adorable-good-friend, that makes it easier to book a date. so stacy... whatcha doin tonight??

 

[dreamer20]

por·nog·ra·phy :
obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like, esp. those having little or no artistic merit

i'd say taking pictures of someone's breast or ass unbeknownst to them is pretty *obscene.

*Obscene as in a "loathsome" act by the photographer but the photo would not be pornography. Photos of nipple slips, penis slips, crotch bulges, even public nudity do not equate to pornography.

http://www.lpsg.org/39375-digitally-edited-tribal-documentaries.html

 

[marleyisalegend]

*Obscene as in a loathsome act by the photographer but the photo would not be pornography. Photos of nipple slips, penis slips, crotch bulges, even public nudity do not equate to pornography.

http://www.lpsg.org/39375-digitally-edited-tribal-documentaries.html

i'm not talking about any of those things, i'm talking about someone who's moderately covered up but the pervert across the street is taking enough shots of them getting in their car to post on a gallery.

ONCE AGAIN not a SINGLE FUCKING PERSON who's willing to defend this behavior is saying they wouldn't care if it happened to a loved one. and no one will tell me why.

*frustrated sigh*

 

[2322]

*Obscene as in a "loathsome" act by the photographer but the photo would not be pornography. Photos of nipple slips, penis slips, crotch bulges, even public nudity do not equate to pornography.

http://www.lpsg.org/39375-digitally-edited-tribal-documentaries.html

What he said.

The act of the photographer is rude, but the work itself is not necessarily obscene.

If someone gets off on the Statue of Liberty does that make the Statue of Liberty pornographic? How about the Venus de Milo? Her boobs are out in the open for anyone to see. Howabout this sleeping hermaphrodite? He/She has an erection. I wager at some point in the last 2000 years some guy's cranked out a load looking at it.