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I'm always fascinated by this reaction, not because it is not logical, but because it usually doesn't bother people that the dick is where piss comes out. (To be fair, it is actually the number one reason that women, but not men, say they don't like oral when they don't like it.) Still, I am struck by the number of men who can't get past the anal issues without even thinking about the penile ones...


1. Piss is just not as gross as shit.

2. Perhaps this is foolish on my part, but I think of piss as something that's there when you're actually pissing, and not there when you're not. So as long as you don't start pissing while I'm sucking your dick, the thought of urine is not forefront in my mind. Whereas, due to the physical nature of feces, it is always forefront in my mind when I contemplate an anus.
 

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1. Piss is just not as gross as shit.

2. Perhaps this is foolish on my part, but I think of piss as something that's there when you're actually pissing, and not there when you're not. So as long as you don't start pissing while I'm sucking your dick, the thought of urine is not forefront in my mind. Whereas, due to the physical nature of feces, it is always forefront in my mind when I contemplate an anus.

You've probably been told all of this before by the militant homos, but really this just means you don't know how the ass works.

Shit is no more present at non-shitting time than piss is at non-pissing time - in a healthy body anyway. Any non-expelled faeces is held not in the immediate anal canal but much further up, out of reach of all but the largest penises and other outrageously long objects. Any normal man who is capable of washing himself and is having healthy bowel movements will not have anything untoward anywhere near where your penis would go. That's not even counting douches for the professionals.

People complain they don't like uncut dicks because they're dirty. They're only dirty if you don't wash them. The same goes for anuses.

Following from fortiesfun's point, likewise with those who choose to have sex with women - they both piss and bleed from their departments, but it doesn't stop people from getting in there as long as they've been properly washed.

Now I'm certainly not saying that every gay man has to indulge in buttfuckery. But, to my mind at least, fear of the poop is not a valid reason to not do it, because it's based on an incorrect assumption and discounts the other examples where the same concern exists.
 

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being good at anything takes talent. I appreciate a man who recognizes the skill involved in being a good, clean, bottom who can manage a big dick. Thanks B ;)

Bottoming, like any sexual activity, takes a combination of desire and practice to really excel at it. The bottom line (pardon the pun) is that my emotional reaction to getting fucked, combined with genuine physical pain caused by my emotional reaction (clenching) completely overwhelms any desire I might or might not have for it.

I tried very hard for years to overcome this, but just never could. I deeply admire guys who can, because part of me understands that I'm missing out on something potentially pleasurable, and I'm a complete and utter hedonist: I live for physical pleasure.

Topping fits the bill perfectly for me, and over the years have developed mad skills in that area (as I have with deep throating/throat fucking), but bottoming just makes me feel violated. I'm certain that the sexual abuse I endured as an adolescent explains much of it.

What about butt cheek sex?
That is fun.

That's a variation on frot, much like titfucking. Occasionally I've been known (within a relationship) to grease up the insides of my thighs and perineum and simulate bottoming. Most guys find that a good second-best but it's all I am able to provide (and, frankly, does nothing for me whatsoever).
 

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I am right there with you. I do not want anal in a relationship. I also don't actively seek a relationship or sexual partners so for me I just feel "different" than the gay men I know. I want that relationship but without having to worry abt anal sex.
 

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It is perfectly allright with me. I wouls like oral and jack off..I am straight but still have attraction to big coks and would like to fondle and suck...I have never done so still now. I have this fantasi.
 

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This is why I love LPSG, I thought all gay guys butt fucked. This kind of trivia is not going be the daily double on Jeopardy, yet I still feel it is worth knowing.

This is a understandable but common myth about gay men. While anal is common, it is not as common as most straight people think it is. There are many many gay guys who aren't into anal. I'm willing to go out on a limb and say 50% or even more are not into. My longest relationship was one that did not involve anal. There was oral, COPIOUS amounts of different types of frot, and a lot of just being intimate with one another and it was all very satisfying.
 

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I don't disagree with anything you said, but the imagery that anal sex brings to mind just overpowers any facts I might learn about asses.

The vagina situation really isn't comparable, in my mind, because, like I said earlier, shit occupies a category of its own at the pinnacle of "gross things produced by the human body."

You've probably been told all of this before by the militant homos, but really this just means you don't know how the ass works.

Shit is no more present at non-shitting time than piss is at non-pissing time - in a healthy body anyway. Any non-expelled faeces is held not in the immediate anal canal but much further up, out of reach of all but the largest penises and other outrageously long objects. Any normal man who is capable of washing himself and is having healthy bowel movements will not have anything untoward anywhere near where your penis would go. That's not even counting douches for the professionals.

People complain they don't like uncut dicks because they're dirty. They're only dirty if you don't wash them. The same goes for anuses.

Following from fortiesfun's point, likewise with those who choose to have sex with women - they both piss and bleed from their departments, but it doesn't stop people from getting in there as long as they've been properly washed.

Now I'm certainly not saying that every gay man has to indulge in buttfuckery. But, to my mind at least, fear of the poop is not a valid reason to not do it, because it's based on an incorrect assumption and discounts the other examples where the same concern exists.
 

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gay.com's lifestyle website did an article about gay anal sex back in september.... i wish i could post a link to it, but the article isn't available anymore.... apparently based on a survey of over 5000 gay men, only 2% of the gay male population has never tried anal sex and has no interest in ever trying it.... (i'm part of that 2%.... i took the survey....) even on a site like gay.com, the article that accompanied the survey results had supposed 'expert' opinions by psychologists and sex therapists who believe that people within that 2% who share my opinion need serious mental help because they suffer from internalized homophobia and insecurity issues....

.... offended doesn't even begin to describe my feelings about those opinions....

it's been a constant source of frustration - before and after coming out - that having anal sex seems to be the standard when it comes to gay sex.... sure, in reality this isn't the case, but the standard exists and there isn't much out there to question it without there being an aspect of judgment on either side of the issue.... even the degrees in which people participate are so varying that it's difficult for a lot of people to find personal satisfaction in sex without their role in it being an absolute.... (ie: total top, total bottom, total no-no....)

there are those who will experiment with different aspects of anal sex, and for the most part, said people do find something within that realm which they enjoy.... but for people such as myself, who simply have no interest at all (even experimenting), there are major difficulties in finding compatible sex partners and we'll be laden with a lot of negativity from people in the process of finding them.... all too often, i'm TOLD i'm a homophobic, or TOLD that i'll get used to it when i know deep down that i AM not and WILL not.... i've also been in situations where someone who i share a great interest in (and them with me) will revoke their interest simply because i won't top or bottom for them.... in time, i really hope that the pressures and gray areas about gay anal sex will be looked at as open-mindedly as this thread.... i'm tired of my sexual preferences being ridiculed and judged; especially by other gay men.... anal sex IS a matter of preference, and it's wrong for people to feel as though they have to submit to being either a top or bottom to gain acceptance or be in a relationship with someone.... gay sex is enough of a headfuck for me without mine or anyone else's ass getting involved....
 

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Although my experiences with a dude is extremely limited I can not relate to anal sex. I have never be involved in any aspect and the reason is just that there is no interest in it, in fact the idea of it is a turn off, like I could not stay hard at the thought.

In my case it may be my knowledge of the function of the anus as it relates to biology (Pre-Med major here). No amount cleaning will completely eliminate the fecal matter, bacteria and pathogens that are present. Due to the tearing and stretching, blood is likely to also be present.

None of this sounds in the least bit like a good time to me and really not something I would consider sexual although I recognize that in many of your minds it is sex, which after all exists in the mind. So in that regard I guess if its your idea of sex go for it, but the biological design of your body argues against it.

That is not a judgement of lifestyle its just a statement of fact regarding the design of the human body. So there you go, the part of me that might be gay would have to do things that to me are sexual.

I imagine that I am not alone in thinking this way, even among those of you who are 100% Gay. The problem is that the Gay establishment is out there in societies face demanding that every fetish be not only tolerated but accepted by the rest of society. To this end anal sex has been the holy grail of "Gayness." This was really apparent during the HIV early days when anyone advocating that this was a preventable illness (avoid the transfer of body fluids) was attacked as being anti gay.

Now, with STD's including HIV on the rise you are homophobic by suggesting that Anal Sex is risky, even when done with a condom. I worked at a public health clinic that posted warnings about the possibility of condoms tearing and that there are scenarios where the HIV or other STD can pass through a condom. Man you would have thought we were the Nazi's by responses and hate mail we got.

I don't doubt that guys or women may get enjoyment from it, after all its your body. But try as you might, that part of the body will never be a sexual organ and to mainstream society is just another fetish that some people are into, nothing more, nothing less.

So I submit you can have a Gay relationship without it.

Dude if you are going to be a physician you need to learn about the history of anal sex. It is not a modern fetish, people have been having anal intercourse for thousands of years and very likely ever since the dawn of mankind. Have you ever heard of the Warren Cup Warren Cup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia dating to the first century A.D. that depicts two young Roman males engaged homosexual anal sex? After it was found by archeaologists in Jerasalem US customs officials actually refused to let this artifact be brought into the United States due to the religious hangups of the day regarding homosexuality.

Anal sex was so prevalent in Ancient Greece that it became known as "Greek love". It was also practiced by Pre Columbian cultures in the Americas and is widely depicted in Moche Art from Peru. It was also practiced by some native tribes in New Guinea.

Pretty much all of the modern hangups about homosexuality and anal sex stem from the Judeo Christian belief system, the same belief system that to this day still perpetuates this crazy idea that the genetalia of young males should be mutilated by circumcision. :rolleyes:
 
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I'm gay and love cock but poop being pushed backward just is too uncomfortable...i've had about two anal I recieved which I enjoyed

my ltr partner and I r cool and lurve sucking good thing we have 17" between us
 

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@jeepguy: no offense, but this thread has nothing to do with the validation of anal sex due to its historical significance or religious views.... it also has nothing to do with circumcision.... it's merely about people's preferences, and the fact that there are some of us who simply have no interest in it for various reasons that pertain to more modern points of view than the ancient greeks.... those of us who have no interest in experiencing or experimenting with anal sex make up a very small percentage of the gay male population, and i'm pretty sure that the person who started this thread (and myself for that matter) is not looking for a history lesson.... i would hope that your enjoyment of anal sex is because you simply enjoy it and for no other reason.... your sexual preferences in the realm of male homosexuality are considered mainstream, and you can probably find fulfilling sex and relationships with greater ease than those of us who are not willing to engage in that kind of activity.... this is not an 'us vs. them' kind of conversation, nor is it a means of swaying anyone's opinions or preferences; it's just a means of attracting like-minded individuals to share their experiences....
 
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Well I'm not gay but the most I can say is try doing it yourself by putting a finger in yourself and once your ok with it put two and so on and so one till u can take a dick that's how me and my girl did it but I only fuck her ass once in a blue moon but try it GOOD LUCK
 

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My ex and I are both bisexual men and we never did anal sex when we were together in a relationship.

I prefer BDSM, oral sex, j/o, and I would fuck the right man but I'd want us to be in a relationship and not have it be a one time thing. I have no interest in getting receptive anal sex at all. If I want to bottom I will let a skilled S&M/B&D top tie me up/restrain me and paddle or whip me.