Gay Republicans?

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This has been on my mind for some time but an article I recently came across has spurred me to create this thread now.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/10/09/log-cabin-republicans-mull-options/http://progressivegrae.newsvine.com...cabin-republicans-mull-options-addicting-info

For many years, the Log Cabin Republicans have faced a choice between bad and bad. Neither political party supported gay rights. In the elections, none of the candidates ever had a pro-equality platform. Clinton signed DOMA into law. Kerry opposed marriage equality. Gore was mum on the issue. The GOP might have been anti-gay, but the Democratic party was not showing any support for the issue either.
2012 became an all new ballgame. For the first time, a major political party platform includes not only a positive message on homosexuality, it embraced marriage equality without reservation. Rather than hand out scraps to the community, the Democratic Party pulled out a chair to welcome homosexuals to the table as full equals.

The Republican Party candidate for president, Mitt Romney, has done the opposite. While in 1994, he was an unapologetic supporter of gay rights, he now stands in opposition to it. His party’s platform comes down against equal rights across the board, but hits hardest on the gay community. Judging by his speeches and the language he uses, it is clear that he wants homosexuals, any minority really, to stay firmly in the closet.
And the Log Cabin Republicans now find themselves in a bad situation. The Republican party is clear, they don’t want them. The Democratic party however has made it clear that they are welcome. The Log Cabin Republicans have not as of yet endorsed either presidential candidate, and it is possible that party bosses will force them into line to endorse the candidate who has pledged to remove their rights, but the shift is already happening.


I would like to ask all the gay Republicans on here why they joined the Republican Party. My best friend is a LCR and he has never been able to give me an answer other than he is a Republicn because all of his family are also Republicans.

What would make someone join a party that clearly states that they are less than equal? Not looking to argue..just wanna understand what the attraction is:smile:


 
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Not that I'm 100% gay, but I am conservative, and I am because being told I can't be married to a guy doesn't hurt my feelings, or make me feel un equal. It's not like they can tell me I can't live, have sex, or have feelings for a guy. To be honest I don't really care for marriage these days at all be it man or woman, I find they all end in shambles from marrying too soon, or just not actually knowing the other person. Just my opinion though, not looking for any arguments, as you said...
 

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Gay Republicans are a bunch of self-loathing closet cases, or else value money above all else. Put another way, does "Jews for Hitler" many any sense at all ?!?!

Are you calling me and every other person like me a closet case? Should I say all gays only vote for Obama because he supports them?
 

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Gay Republicans are a bunch of self-loathing closet cases, or else value money above all else. Put another way, does "Jews for Hitler" many any sense at all ?!?!

If joking, the analogy is poor, at best.

If serious, you sir serve as a shining endorsement for my voter awareness act!
 

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Doesn't matter one whit what you "feel", you ARE unequal in the eyes of the law, and to the Republican party.

It does matter what "I" feel. If you let some political party, tell you who to be, and what to feel, the you need to take a good look at yourself. Unequal why because I can't marry? As I just said, I don't believe in marriage between anyone anymore. Unless you've been together for ages, and are ready to commit for life.
 

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Not that I'm 100% gay, but I am conservative, and I am because being told I can't be married to a guy doesn't hurt my feelings, or make me feel un equal.
Really? How does having less rights make you feel equal?

If you are even 1% gay then the GOP has legislated against you... consistently.
 

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Well I'm not huge and uppity about my rights, as I said I don't care for marriage so truthfully, I still feel as equal as everybody else

So the secret is not CARING about the idea that you can be fired in many states for being gay, and that you can't marry the person of your choosing in many (because of Republicans)...then I'll FEEL equal.

You're saying that you feel equal because you choose not to care about the fact that the party you're siding with isn't treating you equally.
 

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If you let some political party ...

Go back & read what I wrote - the LAW declares you unequal, and Republicans support it. Plus, there's much more to equality than being able to marry who you wish. Employment, housing, credit, education, healthcare - the list goes on.
 

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So the secret is not CARING about the idea that you can be fired in many states for being gay, and that you can't marry the person of your choosing in many (because of Republicans)...then I'll FEEL equal.

You're saying that you feel equal because you choose not to care about the fact that the party you're siding with isn't treating you equally.

There's no law's that state you have to be straight to work? And if you're fired over sexuality, then that's a case to take to the court. They can't fire because of sexual orientation. But wait, if I'm not mistaken, I read somewhere that Obama's administration would not let a caucasian into an african american school? Equal? Unequal?
 

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Go back & read what I wrote - the LAW declares you unequal, and Republicans support it. Plus, there's much more to equality than being able to marry who you wish. Employment, housing, credit, education, healthcare - the list goes on.

Show me where in the law you HAVE to be STRAIGHT?

Also said I wasn't going to argue over this, I'm a conservative and that's my choice. Don't need to argue it to anyone, if they don't like it I don't give a crap really...
 
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Have they told me I can't be with a man? Marriage wise yes, which I could care less, other than that? Not really.

Seriously? Twenty years ago, gay sex was FELONY in the majority of US States! And the GOP would criminalize it again, in a heartbeat, if they could.
 

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Go back & read what I wrote - the LAW declares you unequal, and Republicans support it. Plus, there's much more to equality than being able to marry who you wish. Employment, housing, credit, education, healthcare - the list goes on.

And Republicans do more than support it, they draft these laws in the first place.

The GOP's party platform goes well beyond being homophobic, especially this year. It politicizes people like us in ways that none of us asked for. It'd be nice for once if one of these "small government" loving ideologues would stick to their message and not spend their free time trying to legislate our relationships, defend institutional discrimination (by ignoring or condoning LGBT discrimination) for once.
 

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I do have to wonder what is more important to gay men and women who are Republicans. I saw an interview once with a LCR who stated that his primary concern was money. He was rich enough to afford the lawyer to draw up the necessary documents to give his partner some of the financial and legal protections that heterosexuals got for a fraction of the cost with a marriage certificate so same sex marriage didn't matter to him. He owned his own business so he didn't care about ENDA. He could "hide" amongst the heterosexuals so it didn't matter if the rights of homosexuals were curtailed. It seems to be a case of "I've got mine and the rest of you be damned".

Why join a party that sees you as less than equal and would enshrine that in the Constitution? Why not back a third party candidate?
 

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And if you're fired over sexuality, then that's a case to take to the court.

Take it to court on what basis? No law was broken by the firing employer, so the fired employee has no case.

They can't fire because of sexual orientation.

You are really, truly ignorant. Yes, you CAN be fired because of sexual orientation, and you have absolutely no recourse.
 

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In the end, I think what so homophobic about people who say Gay Republicans are self-hating, loathing, dumb, etc, is that it boils everyone down to one characteristic. Gay? That's the issues most important to you, but not necessarily. I struggle to find permanent work so I dunno how I'll vote b/c I think Romney could have a solid economic plan. I'll prolly vote for Obama though.

I think it's wrong to say something must be "wrong" with Gay Republicans. I know many black, asian, hispanic, and female republicans, yet i think we'd all agree that it be horribly racist and mysoginist to say that any black, asian, hispanic, female Republican has something wrong with them.

There are so many different isseus and yes, some are at the forefront of the discussion, but some people really value some issues over others. Everyone just needs to stop bullying