Gay sex is not natural?

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back.sliden said:
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Tell me what you think:

The whole human genome has been mapped, and there is NO such thing as the "gay gene". There are genes for blue eyes, for black hair, what have you. But there is no such thing as the "gay gene".

We have mapped it--but mapping the genes does not mean we are even close to knowing which specific combinations cause everything of height to disease to sexual orientation to behavior. We are decades away from having that knowledge at a minimum.

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Therefore, gayness cannot be inherited, and we cannot be born gay.

Tell that to the millions of gay people in America alone.


back.sliden-- If you think being gay is wrong or that homosexuality is somehow less natural than heterosexuality, this CLEARLY is not the site for you. Please consider that.
 

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Well, as LPSG is for everyone and not exclusive to just people who have the same opinion. I think Back.sliden has every right to express his opinion as everyone else here. I am not stating that I agree with everyone else that has posted here because I have not agreed with all posts. However, I have read most of the posts and either agreed with them or cast them off to the side and let them go. Several people have expressed a very strong opinion of back.sliden here and disagree with him on this subject. We are all here with different faiths and beliefs and opinions. Back.sliden deserves the same amount of respect for his opinion as anyone else on this website. Banning him would be stupid.:cool:
 

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back.sliden said:
This seems to be a very hot thread I've posted. All of these perspectives are intrigueing.

Tell me what you think:

The whole human genome has been mapped, and there is NO such thing as the "gay gene". There are genes for blue eyes, for black hair, what have you. But there is no such thing as the "gay gene". Therefore, gayness cannot be inherited, and we cannot be born gay.

Secondly,

Detailed research conducted my Exodus International shows that a vast majority of gay men while they were kids lacked an intimate, emotional, and meaningful relationship with their father. The study shows as these boys grow into men, they seek this type of intimate, emotional and meaningful relationship that should have come from their father while they were growing up. Hormones during puberty, and into adulthood, turn these desires for closeness into sexual desires towards men.

I say...go ahead and keep telling yourself this bullshit if it makes you feel better about your own homosexual tendencies. What a load of garbage.
 

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back.sliden said:
I told this gay guy at work that gay sex is not natural, and he totally flipped out! I asked him why he was so unsatisfied about being a man that he felt he had to go to other men for sexual gratification? I asked him to what extremes he would continue to go to if he got dissatisfied with men; would he then go onto animals? What would be next for him?

To str8 guys and gay guys:

Please explain the satisfaction-versus-gratification thing in terms of how far is too far, and what is considered enough?
Why should I bother?

You worry about your own sexuality and perhaps leave others to worry about their sexuality. I know this is rather radical and totally politically unacceptable, but hey, live and let live.

I personally don't object to those people of highly questionable morality who live with dogs in their houses. The very thought of it disgusts me, but that's my issue. I can't imagine imposing my view of the undesirability of living with animals upon others.
 

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Wonderboy said:
I was put here by God to do a certain amount of work. I'm so far behind I'll never die.

Gay sex is not what nature intended since it doesn't continue the species. But it's hardly a bad thing.

Now that's enlightened of you.:rolleyes:

Did your "God" intend for people to enjoy sex?:33: Or did "He" only intend sex for procreation?
 

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BarebackJack said:
But back.sliden, like so many on the side of the religious right (not that he is...), seems to believe that being gay is a decided behavior... something we homos wake up one day and decide to be. It is not.

2 corrections:

I guess that back.sliden, if he is indeed a "tool for Jesus", is perhaps part of the religious right after all (though I question what he's doing on such a sinful site as this one... tee hee). I stand corrected.

Insofar as homosexuality not being a choice... those of us who are out of the closet and/or engaging in gay sex do choose to ACT on our homosexuality (which is what pisses the church off), however we did not choose to BE homosexual anymore than a person who is left-handed chose to be left handed. Lefties can choose to learn to write with their right hand to fit in better in a right-handed world, and gays can choose to have sex with women to fit in with a mostly heterosexual society, but neither behavior is natural to them.
 

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Matthew said:
Sorry everyone - that's just simply not true. Obviously, gay sex doesn't lead to reproduction. But any zoologist can tell you that homosexuality naturally occurs in many animal species as well as humans. Anyone who has ever engaged in oral sex can understand that reproduction is only one of the natural purposes of sex.
Matthew is exactly right, and here is a book on the subject:
Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity

He firmly dispels the prevailing notion that homosexuality is uniquely human and only occurs in "unnatural" circumstances...Bagemihl convincingly overturns previous inviolable "truths" that scarcity and functionality are the prime agents of biological change, and advances instead the idea that abundance and extravagance?"biological exuberance"?are just as crucial to the mosaic of life.
 

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gwr1349 said:
Back.sliden deserves the same amount of respect for his opinion as anyone else on this website.

Bullshit. He deserves the same amount of respect as he has shown, which is none.
 

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gwr1349 said:
Well, as LPSG is for everyone and not exclusive to just people who have the same opinion. I think Back.sliden has every right to express his opinion as everyone else here. I am not stating that I agree with everyone else that has posted here because I have not agreed with all posts. However, I have read most of the posts and either agreed with them or cast them off to the side and let them go. Several people have expressed a very strong opinion of back.sliden here and disagree with him on this subject. We are all here with different faiths and beliefs and opinions. Back.sliden deserves the same amount of respect for his opinion as anyone else on this website. Banning him would be stupid.:cool:

Check his posting history.

If for no other reason "trolling" (which is this case is unnecessary inciting of posters just to bring about a negative reaction) is reason enough. But I'd prefer he stayed too since he's bringing the veiled homophobes out of their respective closets.
 

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back.sliden said:
I told this gay guy at work that gay sex is not natural, and he totally flipped out! I asked him why he was so unsatisfied about being a man that he felt he had to go to other men for sexual gratification? I asked him to what extremes he would continue to go to if he got dissatisfied with men; would he then go onto animals? What would be next for him?

To str8 guys and gay guys:

Please explain the satisfaction-versus-gratification thing in terms of how far is too far, and what is considered enough?

Bitch Please.
 

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Lex said:
Yes. The penguin pairings (male-male) in zoos around the country and dogs being stuck are two glaring examples of homosexuality found in nature.

Penguins confined to a cage or tank in a zoo are not, in any meaningful sense, in "nature". And, since we've been selectively breeding dogs for something on the order of two hundred centuries, their connections with "nature" are also tenuous.
 

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back.sliden-- If you think being gay is wrong or that homosexuality is somehow less natural than heterosexuality, this CLEARLY is not the site for you. Please consider that.[/quote]

I understand why you're feeling the way you are, and I am not apologizing. But, I am empathetic to your humanness.

Large Penis Support Group, as we all know, is for any one who has interests in (or takes interest in) large penises. Gay or straight, and that is our common ground.

I like your signature b/c in this instant is seems it was easier for you to type than to live. So, I saying it back to you here: "I'll be honest with you, even if it hurts you; and I promise you in the end you'll appreciate it more than if I lied to you just to spare your feelings or to prevent any "drama."




 

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big dirigible said:
Penguins confined to a cage or tank in a zoo are not, in any meaningful sense, in "nature". And, since we've been selectively breeding dogs for something on the order of two hundred centuries, their connections with "nature" are also tenuous.

Wow... this thread is bringing them out in droves. Nice job back.sliden.
 

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back.sliden said:
This seems to be a very hot thread I've posted. All of these perspectives are intrigueing.

Tell me what you think:

The whole human genome has been mapped, and there is NO such thing as the "gay gene". There are genes for blue eyes, for black hair, what have you. But there is no such thing as the "gay gene". Therefore, gayness cannot be inherited, and we cannot be born gay.

Secondly,

Detailed research conducted my Exodus International shows that a vast majority of gay men while they were kids lacked an intimate, emotional, and meaningful relationship with their father. The study shows as these boys grow into men, they seek this type of intimate, emotional and meaningful relationship that should have come from their father while they were growing up. Hormones during puberty, and into adulthood, turn these desires for closeness into sexual desires towards men.

Suggesting that statistics and findings by "Exodus International" are relevant to any educated discussion is ridiculous at best. Because of this organization's political/sociological/religious stand, their opinion is invalid (too obviously partisan and shaded by "belief"). Your interpretation of "science" is intriguing, but not worth our time.

Go get in line and drink your Kool-aid.
 

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If you define natural sex, as sex that can lead to reproduction, therefor homosexuality is unnatural. You will need to add to your list of unnatural acts, kssing, blow jobs, anal sex between man and woman, and everything else that doesn't have the penis entering the vagina. So people please stop all that "unnatural" sex you are having...........PERVERTS :)
 

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back.sliden said:
At this moment (2:00 pm eastern), everyone is online with baited breathe. Interesante. Hot thread.

You are just as much a little toy for us as you think we are for you.

Don't go anywhere just yet, little scratching post.
 
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