gay uk voters - tory or labour?

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  1. green carnation

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    i would naturally vote conservative based on a couple of issues that i thought were important to me. But i now think these issues pale into significance compared to equality and acceptance of homosexuality. After all we are talking life and death in some cases.
    Does anybody know which party would best represent us and is it silly to vote based on this one issue? And what if its labour!
    Confused in surbiton
     
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    You'd be CRAZY to bring your sexuality into this.I'm gay too,but THAT IS SOOOOO NOT AN ISSUE!! I'll probably vote Conservative (esp after today's new 'shower of shite' Socialistic gangster activities!!!
     
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    Sexuality has nothing to do with voting, its open to all.

    I would not vote for Labour (Tony Blair and Gordon Brown have seen to that) I would not vote for Conservative either, both as bad as each other, i was appalled that they could use the death/illness of their children to get sympathy votes. I would like Lib Dems to have a bash, Nick Clegg seems to know his business.But i guess like all others they go down the same path.Main topics that matter to me are Immigration,Public services and the War in Iraq.
     
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    Go away.The LibDems' answer is to put a tax on everything.They've got NO chance,(as always)....."Go back to your constituencies and prepare for oblivion" as the saying goes!!!
     
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    LOL SB, i agree but like i said, they all go down the same path. btw mate, lose the !!!! you sound angry hehe :biggrin1:
     
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    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Okay, i'll leave you be.
     
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    That would be the conservatives who banned any mention of anything pro-gay in schools, on pain of teachers losing their jobs, last time they were in government? The conservatives also resisted lowering the age of consent to 16, the same as for heterosexuals.
     
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    Well, Cameron seems to think the first gay PM will be a tory. I hope they gay community wait untill they show up to vote tory if they must.

    Tories arnt against all gays. They dont mind the gays in their party and of their ilk.
     
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    thanks for the contributions, even to those who cant accept that to me the issue of equality is an important component when weighing up the options! After all, we all vote on what matters to us most, dont we?
     
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    ....please don't use the expression 'gay community',there's no such thing!
     
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    Actually it's quite selfish to use one's sexuality as a primary consideration.Being gay, for me, would rank about 706th on the list of importance,afterall we live in country populated by other people too.Besides what more is there to be said I'm gay.... and???
     
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    Personally, David Cameron is all for gay rights when questioned about it, but behind closed doors it seems to be a different matter. He recently stated he supports gay adoption yet voted against it twice. He also apologised for his support of Section 28 but back in 2003 when Labour got rid of the clause he supported a Tory amendment which Stonewall called "section 28 by the back door". He is pro-civil partnerships but again his track record of voting on gay issues is less than favourable. See this interesting chart by The Guardian. However Cameron does seem to be a changed man and has since shown his support of LGBT issues, it's a shame his voting record doesn't match his claims.

    Labour have done a lot for gay rights, since they've been in power there have been many alterations to the law including introducing Civil Partnerships, equalling the age of consent, ended the ban on openly gay military personnel, allowed immigration to include same sex partners, allowing gay adoption and introduced homophobia as a hate crime to name just a few.

    Liberal Democrats fully support the idea of gay marriage and launched a Marriage Without Borders campaign which would mean civil partnerships would have to be recognised internationally as well as domestically.

    Some of us will find the gay rights issue a key choice when voting, others will see it as a non-issue, we are all different but none of us are wrong for selecting different issues as our reason for supporting a political party.

    I am still undecided, but I think my vote will possibly be for Lib Dem.
     
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    Gordon Brown is gay. Mostly.
     
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    to quote lord mandelson, talking about david cameron

    "or is he just better at presentation than his predecessors"


    And can I just point out to the waverers the Equality Bill (spring 2010) pushed through by the current Government.

    (btw im not a gay uk voter, but i wanted to chip in )
     
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    your the man flameboy, thanks for that summary.
    Superbot, i agree that for me voting based purely on my sexuality would be narrow minded and selfish, which is why it will be one component only in my decision making.
    But most people are going to vote based on self interest im afraid
     
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    And you have been discriminated against all your life.


    Was that an observation on his sexuality or using the word in its traditional derogatory mode?

    On that basis coal miners would not vote labour, bankers from the leafy shires and people with moats would not vote conservative, pensioners would not vote for bus passes. If you dont vote for what matters to you, no one else will.
     
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    Thanks 289 you raise a very good point. Please chip in anyone, I'm sorry for being exclusive and didn't mean to offend.


     
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    Nope, never once been discriminated against in 45 yrs! As to your other analagy I haven't the least idea what point your making.
     
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