What and using light entertainment show hosts and comedians is such a perfect model?
Actually they are the only hosts of any type aren't they? Not a gay scriptwriter's wet dream of a kitchen sink drama! It's all angst & I hate my father.
Everyone on Eastenders is going through some kind of crisis, it's that kind of show, and besides should Gay men not be shown having crises? Is that bad for our public image as super-perfect, super-awesome, post-human paragons?
You're being an idiot here. It perpetuates the stereotype of homosexuals being emotionally uncontrolled, childish, tortured men. I don't know any gay guys like that (though they might fuck others like that)
What stereotype? And in what way ugly? How is TV actualy representative of anyone?
Well it isn't is it? The BBC is staffed overwhelmingly by left wingers, the media as a whole is over represented by homosexuals, all this dictates programming, & yet with all that they still can't show a gay guy having a care free, trouble free relationship or life.
I'm shocked that you don't find that offensive, because it doesn't give good or even real role models to the gay youngblood.
I frankly find the mindset of programming so stereotypical as to be homophobic in that it continually doesn't represent homosexuals in a proper way, rather than as sideshow freaks & cartoon camps.
It seems TV contrives itself to make being gay an issue - when it's not. I'd be happier if sexuality of anykind wasn't thrown in as a plot device. A bit of fun yes, but not the whole mode of existence.
It makes them one dimensional characters - & that perpetuates stereotypes. Why not multi dimensional characters who are murderers, adventurers, whatever, with being gay as an incidental, barely being noticed.
Your fighting shadows here Hilly. You're beginning to sound like one of those chaps for whom their sexuality is all their life.
The portrayl of homosexuals on TV is offensive - because it marginalises further, & it informs others opinions - so you shouldn't be offended when others express that opinion without looking at how the media has informed it.
I'm sure that Ian McKellen, Simon Amstell, Evan Davis, Alistair Appleton, Stephen Fry, Matt Lucas, Will Young, Russell Tovey, Joe McElderry, Mark Feehily, Scott Mills, Derren Brown, Stephen K. Amos, Alan Bennett, Mark Gatiss, Mika, Dan Gillespie Sells and Rupert Everett (need I continue) may take issue with the OP's statement.
How fucking camp are most of them!:biggrin1: Who the fuck are some of them - did you just post a list from elsewhere! All the presenters on that list are as camp as a scout party - exactly which of any of them is even vaguely macho - as expressed as a form of "the opposite to camp" (Everett excepted)?
You've just posted a list that proves the OP right!
It just shows that there isn't a wide cross section represented at all.