Gays For Trump Thread

[deleted15807]

Harvey Levin and TMZ.

I think Harvey has changed.

TMZ's Harvey Levin shares his opinion on President Trump and protesters

On the show he has been urging everyone on the show to get out and vote which as we know is the opposite of what Der Furher and his party wants.

 

[deleted15807]

Because they are privileged. Caityn was completely oblivious to the obvious con. Until trans people started getting attacked first by the man she sat there and endorsed. She's rich enough to never feel the adverse effects of the hateful policies. Unlike the everyday trans people getting kicked out of the military, or being treated like trash and killed even.

If you wait till they get your your specific letter of LGBT then guess what its already too late to stand up. If you think oh well its only "them" you are lost.

 

[fordonfire]

Harvey Levin and TMZ.

to be fair i think harvey has dialed back his support for Trump...entirely if i'm not mistaken

 

[malakos]

Why do people vote against their own interests.

Which interests are you referring to? Being a homosexual can be largely incidental and peripheral in relation to the issues currently at hand, so I'm assuming you're referring to something else.

 

[malakos]

Playing the Trumpism schism game isn't going to make the anti-LGBT actions of Trump Co. disappear sir. United we stand, divided we fall.

The point he is making is that bringing up issues related to recognition of transsexual identities, in a thread focused on Gays in particular, indicates an assumption that the Gays involved in the thread will recognize said issues as their own issues. That happens to be an incorrect assumption.

 

[b.c.]

National LGBT Chamber of Commerce endorses Joe Biden

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The National LGBT Chamber of Commerce, also known as the NGLCC, endorsed Joe Biden for president Monday, saying the former vice president's commitment to signing the Equality Act would empower and protect LGBTQ entrepreneurs and business owners.

The Democratic candidate would guarantee nondiscrimination protections that ensure equitable access to capital, particularly during the post-pandemic economic recovery, the chamber said.

"Joe Biden proudly affirms an essential core value of the NGLCC: that we all deserve our shot at the American Dream, and that our economy only succeeds when it is available to all LGBT and allied Americans," Justin G. Nelson, the organization's president, said in a written statement announcing the endorsement.

 

[chicagosam]

to be fair i think harvey has dialed back his support for Trump...entirely if i'm not mistaken

Good to hear. See following quite.

I think Harvey has changed.

TMZ's Harvey Levin shares his opinion on President Trump and protesters

On the show he has been urging everyone on the show to get out and vote which as we know is the opposite of what Der Furher and his party wants.

My first response to you was deleted—my first censure—ever. Oh, the horror! The shame! The honor lost! What a frivolous use of a report; undoubtedly, prompted and preceded—one could imagine—by a hissy, the onset of the vapors, and the need for a powder. Do you think—in light of my alleged capital offense against humanity and the state—I might qualify for a commutation of sentence or a presidential pardon? I understand merit and innocence are no longer required, just loyalty, familiarity, and an NDA. Maybe Harvey Levin could speak in my behalf now that he has seen the error of his ways. A GoFundMe account—“Free @chicagosam!”—could be started for my defense. Jerry Falwell Jr. could unzip the power of the faithful in prayer to their new messiah—“Praise Donald! Hallelujah!”

Virtue be damned! If I’m going to be reviled and censored, I might as well go big, go Trump, and make my foray to the dark side worthwhile. No more Mr. Nice Guy! Be frightened, be very frightened! Oh, my! I feel so notorious and ne plus ultra nefarious. It’s like a great big beautiful bigly badge of honor I can wear with faQanon pride. Everyone’s sayin’.

Now...without much further ado about nothing...back to our previous scheduled programming—British Slang and Gays-a-Trumping.

A parting lagniappe: Be good, all. Be kind, be best, and remain safe.

 

[ladynono]

Also

And why are so many Trump haters in this thread? I know you think 'orange man bad' but this is clearly not the thread for you.

 

[Klingsor]

First, most of the issues you highlight are concerns facing transgender individuals, how and why my rights as a gay man have been thrown in with the rights of the mentally ill self mutilating trans 'community' confuses me . . .

After that, I'm not sure why you bothered to go on.

 

[Reid888]

Yeah I stopped reading after “mentally ill self mutilating trans 'community’”. Maybe you forgot gay people were also called mentally ill? You do realize ‘trans’ played a key role in the freedom us ‘gay men’ have, right? Such an ignorant comment comment to make.

 

[ladynono]

Yeah I stopped reading after “mentally ill self mutilating trans 'community’”. Maybe you forgot gay people were also called mentally ill? You do realize ‘trans’ played a key role in the freedom us ‘gay men’ have, right? Such an ignorant comment comment to make.

I don't encourage self harm. I believe in body positively, people can and should learn to love themselves and their bodies not undergo painful surgery that doesn't address the real issues.

 

[ladynono]

After that, I'm not sure why you bothered to go on.

I take it you didn't read any further either

 

[Klingsor]

I take it you didn't read any further either

I read the rest, but when you begin with a slur like that (without even realizing the irony Reid888 so astutely points out), it's hard to believe you're genuinely trying to win over any hearts and minds here.

I don't encourage self harm. I believe in body positively, people can and should learn to love themselves and their bodies not undergo painful surgery that doesn't address the real issues.

I know, right? It's just like those weird gay people: why can't they just, you know, get over it?

 

[ladynono]

I read the rest, but when you begin with a slur like that (without even realizing the irony Reid888 so astutely points out), it's hard to believe you're genuinely trying to win over any hearts and minds here.



I know, right? It's just like those weird gay people: why can't they just, you know, get over it?

Do you have an argument or just emotions and ad hominems?

 

[ladynono]

This is the best example of idiotic propaganda I've seen yet ... that bit about Roy Cohn, priceless!!!

Is everything you don't like propaganda? Just curious

 

[gr8gatsby]

Is everything you don't like propaganda? Just curious

No, it's not. But your post is an excellent example for anyone unsure what propaganda looks like.

 

[ladynono]

No, it's not. But your post is an excellent example for anyone unsure what propaganda looks like.

It's not propaganda its a different opinion to yours

 

[Klingsor]

You are the one who entered a thread for gay Trump supporters and started bashing Trump.

It's the Politics forum; you take a stance here, people push back.

I have a massive amount of empathy for trans people and Don't want them to hurt themselves. Mental illness is very common in the LGBT community and nothing to be ashamed of.

Mental illness is common in the straight community as well. But you referred to transgender people, in a generalized way, as "mentally ill" and "self-mutilating."

I never said trans people should be stopped from doing what they want, I just don't believe it is the healthy or best choice for them.

I'm sure they value your insight.

You implied I was a bigot because I don't agree with your trans views by implying I was using a 'slur'. As to winning hearts and minds, you entered this thread with your mind set and dismiss anything that goes against your opinion as bigoted.

My opinion is of no importance. I still maintain you used a slur. As to whether your views are bigoted, I leave that up to you.

Also you may not like it but religious freedom and military readiness are actual things that exsist

And neither of them justify discrimination.

 

[ladynono]

It's the Politics forum; you take a stance here, people push back.



Mental illness is common in the straight community as well. But you referred to transgender people, in a generalized way, as "mentally ill" and "self-mutilating."



I'm sure they value your insight.



I agree that caution should be observed, but there's no question that children can have a strong, lasting sense of their gender identity and/or sexual orientation from an early age. I certainly did.



My opinion is of no importance. I still maintain you used a slur. As to whether your views are bigoted, I leave that up to you.



And neither of them justify discrimination.

Yes mental illness is common in the straight community too but we do not encourage them to hurt themselves. SRS is a barbaric surgery that entails a great amount of pain and suffering, I wouldn't stop anyone from having it but I don't have to agree that it is a positive thing to do. I've personally dealt with people who self harmed, cutting and such, it made them feel better but it was a maladaptive coping disorder that needed correction through therapy and self esteem development. In regards to religious freedom, it depends on what you believe the role of the state should be, should the state be allowed to force people to fund something they fundamentally disagree with?

 

[ladynono]

Richard Grenell, Trump's Top Gay Appointee, Joins Anti-LGBTQ+ Group

Richard Grenell, formerly the highest-ranking out gay official in the Trump administration, has joined a law firm founded by Pat Robertson that has a history of opposing LGBTQ+ rights.

Grenell will be special adviser for national security and foreign policy at the American Center for Law and Justice, based in Washington, D.C. He was previously acting director of national intelligence, making him the first out gay person to hold a Cabinet-level position, and before that was U.S. ambassador to Germany. He recently joined the Republican National Committee to do outreach to LGBTQ+ voters, and he addressed the Republican convention last week, spreading debunked conspiracy theories about the Obama administration spying on Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, along with other lies.
Robertson, the virulently anti-LGBTQ+ televangelist, founded the ACLJ in 1990 to counter the work of the American Civil Liberties Union and other liberal-leaning legal nonprofits. Much of the ACLJ’s work in the 1990s and early 2000s involved fighting marriage equality.

It helped draft the Defense of Marriage Act, the law passed in 1996 that denied federal government recognition to same-sex marriages and allowed states to deny recognition to such marriages performed in other states, therefore depriving same-sex couples of many of the rights associated with marriage. The portion of the law involving the federal government was struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2013, and the remainder was invalidated when the high court ruled for nationwide marriage equality in 2015.

It challenged the 2003 Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court decision that made that state the first one with marriage equality, and it fought efforts for marriage equality in California, the District of Columbia, and elsewhere. Jay Sekulow, its chief counsel and a lawyer for Trump (he was involved in Trump’s defense when the president was impeached), has advocated amending the U.S. Constitution to ban same-sex marriage and testified before Congress that such marriages are harmful to children, saying they “are hurt when either the father or the mother is absent.”

The idea that children need a parent of each gender is a frequent right-wing talking point used to avoid seeming hostile to LGBTQ+ people, but elsewhere Sekulow has made his hostility clear. In the 1996 book From Intimidation to Victory: Regaining the Christian Right to Speak, he wrote of “the sordid gay life-style” and accused a high school teacher of seeking to “recruit students into the ranks of the gay community.”
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The token gay Trump points too for support. This is what LGBT should look forward to from him and the trump administration? Working for people who have a tangible and literal history of trying to erase your existence. Who praise and support Russia's brutal antigay laws. This is what the administration promotes as "most gay friendly President ever?" Laughable

I'd rather change one thing in the republican party then everything in the democratic party