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dong20 said:
I would go further.

While nobody should expect anything for nothing, paying anything for nothing is too much.

Exactly my point.

Let's see how many American soldiers have to die in the coming Iran debacle in order to...

1) further alienate the moderate Muslims (the extremists already hate the US and likely always will, it's the attitude of the moderates that the west should be hoping to influence); and

2) turn a country with a functioning society and no nukes into a country with a nonfunctioning society and no nukes.
 

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rob_just_rob said:
Exactly my point.

Let's see how many American soldiers have to die in the coming Iran debacle in order to...

1) further alienate the moderate Muslims (the extremists already hate the US and likely always will, it's the attitude of the moderates that the west should be hoping to influence); and

2) turn a country with a functioning society and no nukes into a country with a nonfunctioning society and no nukes.

Indeed.

  1. Muslims are as appalled as you and me about the death toll on both sides. I'd say they are even more appalled and alienated by the rationale and ideology behind going in the first place and that's nearer to the real problem that needs solving.
  2. One could say that it took only one person and he is still alive and well. But I understand your point.
It goes way beyond 'numbers' but try explaining this to solong and his ilk!