Genital size on a downward arc as intelligence is more treasured

[Drifterwood]

Isn't it time for someone to throw the towel in for poor WGC?

 

[SexyFront]

Argue what you may, try to be politically correct, but the size of male genitals is shrinking as a percentage of the whole population of the earth. Asians have the smallest genitals and the highest IQs, while Sub Saharan Africans have the lowest IQs and the largest genitals. The world's power and influence is shifting to Asia and India, while Africa falls further into chaos. Africans write no software, there is no high tech in Africa, do not build anything value added and their raw materials and minerals are being taken/stolen by the Chinese.

All innovations on the earth come from Asia and those of European ancestry. Brain power is the genetic trait most treasured by evolution. Dick size is simply an afterthought on the evolutionary timeline.

I am a huge fan of this type of comedy!

 

[Guy-jin]

I think we untrolled him.

Is that what we're calling it now?

 

[Drifterwood]

I prefer detrolled.

 

[Mr. Snakey]

A mear bag of shells. A fart on the freeway.

 

[Drifterwood]

A fart on the freeway.

:biggrin1:

I never heard that one before, Vlad. Fantastic.

I will use it often and always be reminded of you Big Guy. In a nice way, I mean, not like you are the fart on the freeway. :wink:

 

[Mr. Snakey]

:biggrin1:

I never heard that one before, Vlad. Fantastic.

I will use it often and always be reminded of you Big Guy. In a nice way, I mean, not like you are the fart on the freeway. :wink:

Aw shucks.:biggrin1:

 

[Ethyl]

I'm not trying to win any. I just would like to my species survive. It'd save me lot in taxes. I'm just a realist. Not just IQ's but physical attributes as well. An geographical disparties is a another topic. We constantly feed and those struck by disease and famine only to have them reproduce and experience the same catastrophic circumstances. ie africa. the same can be said for rebuilding New Orleans or Florida or people who live in flood plains etc. It's just not sensible.

You can even take it a step further by creating durugs to keep people alive. It may seem cruel but it keeps the world in balance. We humans have put the world in an inbalance. nature always wins. By trying to pull everyone along you get pulled down yourself. It's nobel but ignorant.

I've noticed it's never those at the bottom of the totem pole who say things like this.

The reality is that if you were one of thse famine ravaged people, you wouldn't think this way because your survival mechanism would already be in high gear.

 

[snoozan]

This is a response to your comment that starts with "All innovations on the earth come from....". Take a moment and count the number of applications on your computer desktop that are not American products. How many Candadian applications do you happen to run every day? Since you started your assertion with "All" and you can probably name "None", I maintain that your assertion fails so miserably as to be ridiculous. In fact, there is no higher form of failure than a prediction that says "all" that actually yields "none."

It is true that India is a popular in-source country for software development. But very little software innovation takes place when software is outsourced to another country. When was the last time you heard of any software innovations that came from India? There might be one or two, but they are down in the noise level compared to American software innovation.

That being said, it is extremely important to know that Indians, Asians, Blacks, South Americans, etc all seem to be equally productive when it comes to software development when they are in the USA. It is not a questions of genetics, it is a product of culture, educational access, market access, and business infrastructure.

These are such strong factors when it comes to any kind of technical innovation that to suggest it is genetic is as close to wrong as you can get.

Finally, your assertion that physical differences between races automatically imply intelligence differences is totally unfounded. It is not a proof, it is simply an assertion about a relationship that you simply decided must be true. I could just as easily assert that racial differences related to running speed and endurance proves that the ability to fly unaided varies by race.

There are plenty of studies that relate to racial and gender differences in cognitive processes and so far they have not found any that are significant. So far all differences that have been found are ones that are easily overcome by a small bit of training. For example, studies show that women score lower on tests that involve visual/spatial reasoning.

However, the same studies also show that the shortfall is easily made up and exceeded with just a little training in visual/spatial skills. The conclusion is that gender differences in this area are cultural and could be affected easily by something a simple as the fact that boys ride bikes and skateboard more than girls earlier in their life.

I maintain that you have failed to prove any correlations between race, penis size, and intelligence. I am also suspicious of your motives for starting this thread. Since it led off with the OP full of unfounded statements about racial inferiority, and continued with an extremely weak and uninspired attempt to justify them, I have to conclude you are simply wanting to make racist statements to create thread controversy.

I just fell in love all over again.

 

[Whopper-lee]

Argue what you may, try to be politically correct, but the size of male genitals is shrinking as a percentage of the whole population of the earth. Asians have the smallest genitals and the highest IQs, while Sub Saharan Africans have the lowest IQs and the largest genitals. The world's power and influence is shifting to Asia and India, while Africa falls further into chaos. Africans write no software, there is no high tech in Africa, do not build anything value added and their raw materials and minerals are being taken/stolen by the Chinese.

All innovations on the earth come from Asia and those of European ancestry. Brain power is the genetic trait most treasured by evolution. Dick size is simply an afterthought on the evolutionary timeline.

*****************************************************

....as an earlier replied noted..."think you're stirring up a pot of shit you may not want to eat".....
What you are actually sayin is that black men with big dicks are also stupid/dumb.:bsflag:I think U R a little Research your opinion with more facts & justification.

 

[Wyldgusechaz]

Here is what you are all saying which is preposterous in the extreme.


Hair color, caliber, thickness, texture, balding patterns, tooth morphology, eye color, visual acuity, fast/slow twitch muscle fiber, ability to process refined sugars and animal fats, prostate cancer, height, bone density, leg length, hip and shoulder girdle, breast development, patterns of twinning, ability to deliver oxygen to the extremities, blood pressure, diabetes, alcohol sensitivity, skin color, skin thickness, collagen depth, resistance to malaria, and a slew of other things that can be broken out along racial lines but no way there can any difference in cognitive ability. That at the foramen magnum, although everything below it is variable amongst races above it there can be no difference.

Sure.

That the skills needed to survive the glaciation of of Europe and Siberia are exactly the same as the skills needed to survive the Africa savanna. Uh huh. That over 70000 years, or 280000 generations, there were no significant cranial/neural adaptations in cognitive thinking. Now there were changes in lipid synthesis in America that only took 10000 years such that all Pima Indians are diabetics and cannot process animal fat but in over 70000 years cognitive power NEVER was selected for?

Preposterous.

 

[Not_Punny]

Intelligence is apparently more prone to environmental stimuli than genetic potential.

This is all the more relevant since it's postulated that we only engage a minor percent of our computing capability.

'Nuff said.

 

[Hugh G. Rection]

Gene traits can be stored for generations without becoming active because chromasomes randomly recombine during pregnancy.

Now back to what ScaredLittleBoy said about the hormones. Ingesting these female growth hormones through our milk, milk products, and water (thanks to birth control) as well as the synthetic estrogen found in most plastics, will, if it has not already, cause the male population to have smaller penises.

While the effects of traces of female hormones in a fully grown male are small and may not contribute to penis shinkage at all, those same hormones continuously present in a pre-pubescent male can result in the penis never growing properly to it's full potential (as well as the male himself).

The same principal applies backwards to females, as we now see girls in kindergarten showing signs of puberty (pubic hair), adolescent girls already having full grown breasts, and the average breast size skyrocketing in Britain and the US.

 

[D_Gunther Snotpole]

Hair color, caliber, thickness, texture, balding patterns, tooth morphology, eye color, visual acuity, fast/slow twitch muscle fiber, ability to process refined sugars and animal fats, prostate cancer, height, bone density, leg length, hip and shoulder girdle, breast development, patterns of twinning, ability to deliver oxygen to the extremities, blood pressure, diabetes, alcohol sensitivity, skin color, skin thickness, collagen depth, resistance to malaria, and a slew of other things that can be broken out along racial lines but no way there can any difference in cognitive ability. That at the foramen magnum, although everything below it is variable amongst races above it there can be no difference.

Of course there can be differences. But finding out what they are, when they are matters of mental acuity, is a far less objective exercise than all the physical differences that you have mentioned.

That the skills needed to survive the glaciation of of Europe and Siberia are exactly the same as the skills needed to survive the Africa savanna. Uh huh.

Of course the skills are not the same. However, saying that it's more difficult to survive in Europe than in Africa is not as absolutely clear as you think. For example, living in the various deserts of Africa is to have to adapt to an environment that provides no survival breaks ... and would therefore, arguably, be a real test of adaptive capacity, which is pretty much to say, a real test of intelligence.

That over 70000 years, or 280000 generations, there were no significant cranial/neural adaptations in cognitive thinking.

These numbers are really screwed up. Do you mean to say 700,000 years? Which would yield something like 35,000 generations?

Now there were changes in lipid synthesis in America that only took 10000 years such that all Pima Indians are diabetics and cannot process animal fat but in over 70000 years cognitive power NEVER was selected for?.

This is a good question, but doesn't give any answers.
As others have said, measuring intelligence is very tricky.
Cultural factors make IQ testing a very dicey way of making comparisons.

People like Rushton I believe can be dismissed too easily. I think he is a serious scholar who raises some interesting questions. But he builds such a broad theory on so many rather arbitrary assumptions, that I think his whole edifice collapses of its own weight.

For you as a non-expert to rush in and try to make the points you do is thankless and almost masochistic. You will win no converts and will be attacked unceasingly.

I'd drop it.

 

[D_Gunther Snotpole]

Intelligence is apparently more prone to environmental stimuli than genetic potential.

I don't think there's any real consensus on this point, hotmilf. Twin studies and the like suggest a powerful genetic effect. That said, I'm not saying that environment isn't very important.

This is all the more relevant since it's postulated that we only engage a minor percent of our computing capability.

You mean the notion that we use only 10 percent of our cranial capacity? I think that's been debunked more than once.

 

[snoozan]

Now there were changes in lipid synthesis in America that only took 10000 years such that all Pima Indians are diabetics and cannot process animal fat but in over 70000 years cognitive power NEVER was selected for?.

some quick fact checking: all Pima Indians are not diabetic-- it's about 50%. 95% of those who are diabetic are overweight. this is more than the general US population, but not out of line with what we see in most americans. also, i found nowhere that they can't process animal fat-- can you link a source for that, please?

unfortunately, until you can back up what you state as fact, you can't make a convincing argument.

 

[Hellboy0]

Here is what you are saying in fact: All races are equal in every way and white people must be lazy if they don't win the 100 meter dash and other races that don't match whites and Asians in academic achievement must be lazy or worse they culturally don't give a shit.

You may not realize it but yours is the worst sort of paternalistic racism. Ugly.

I can't believe I jumped back in this thread, but I'm a sucker that way:

Listen, moron: You STILL haven't given any cogent reasoning or viable research proving your ridiculous, racist opinions regarding race and intelligence. I agree that there are physical traits common to some 'races' (do the limited research here and check my previous posts)... the ONLY thing we sort of agree on.

As for cultural pressures and their effect on how people score on so-called intelligence tests, I honestly don't see how that is a racist comment by me. What's racist is testing particular populations of any group and then making sweeping generalisations for the entire planet.

Fuck you...and fuck this thread. I'm sure you've enjoyed this whole bullshit process but as you don't give the same consideration to other peoples discussions that we've tried to give to yours, then I am not REALLY not coming back here.

Where is the ignore button, folks?

 

[Wyldgusechaz]

OK

This is a response to your comment that starts with "All innovations on the earth come from....". Take a moment and count the number of applications on your computer desktop that are not American products. How many Candadian applications do you happen to run every day? Since you started your assertion with "All" and you can probably name "None", I maintain that your assertion fails so miserably as to be ridiculous. In fact, there is no higher form of failure than a prediction that says "all" that actually yields "none."

I did not say American, I said European or Asian. How many products, devices, programs, tools, pictures, clothing, make up, shavers, forks, spoons, cars, motorcycles, paints, print items, paper, rugs, furniture were made in Africa or South America? In your house JA? Here it the breakdown for patents granted worldwide

Patent Granted Countries, Top Patent Granted Countries, Top 10 Patent Granted Countries If that isn't an indication of creative thought I don't know what it for you.



It is true that India is a popular in-source country for software development. But very little software innovation takes place when software is outsourced to another country. When was the last time you heard of any software innovations that came from India? There might be one or two, but they are down in the noise level compared to American software innovation.
I think you sort of made my point. Software innovation is european is genesis


That being said, it is extremely important to know that Indians, Asians, Blacks, South Americans, etc all seem Do you have any proof of this? Or is it anecdotal?to be equally productive when it comes to software development when they are in the USA. It is not a questions of genetics, it is a product of culture, educational access, market access, and business infrastructure.

Really? Here is a distribution of degrees by race. http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/nsf07308/pdf/tab3.pdf


These are such strong factors when it comes to any kind of technical innovation that to suggest it is genetic is as close to wrong as you can get.

Finally, your assertion that physical differences between races automatically imply intelligence differences is totally unfounded. It is not a proof, it is simply an assertion about a relationship that you simply decided must be true. I could just as easily assert that racial differences related to running speed and endurance proves that the ability to fly unaided varies by race.

There are plenty of studies that relate to racial and gender differences in cognitive processes and so far they have not found any that are significant. So far all differences that have been found are ones that are easily overcome by a small bit of training. For example, studies show that women score lower on tests that involve visual/spatial reasoning.

However, the same studies also show that the shortfall is easily made up and exceeded with just a little training in visual/spatial skills. The conclusion is that gender differences in this area are cultural and could be affected easily by something a simple as the fact that boys ride bikes and skateboard more than girls earlier in their life.

I maintain that you have failed to prove any correlations between race, penis size, and intelligence. I am also suspicious of your motives for starting this thread. Since it led off with the OP full of unfounded statements about racial inferiority, and continued with an extremely weak and uninspired attempt to justify them, I have to conclude you are simply wanting to make racist statements to create thread controversy.

 

[D_Gunther Snotpole]

some quick fact checking: all Pima Indians are not diabetic-- it's about 50%. 95% of those who are diabetic are overweight. this is more than the general US population, but not out of line with what we see in most americans.

Not clear, snoozan. What is not out of line with the general US population ... the rate of diabetes, or the fact that 95 percent of Pimas with diabetes are overweight?

also, i found nowhere that they can't process animal fat-- can you link a source for that, please?

I didn't notice that. Seems almost inconceivable in an aboriginal population.

 

[Not_Punny]

I don't think there's any real consensus on this point, hotmilf. Twin studies and the like suggest a powerful genetic effect. That said, I'm not saying that environment isn't very important.



You mean the notion that we use only 10 percent of our cranial capacity? I think that's been debunked more than once.

Well, I don't know, Rubi. I work in education, and I've seen enough seriously flawed and conflicting studies to know that some can be massaged to say almost anything you want. Especially on a subject as, well, as subjective as this.

And unless I'm stupider than I thought (which is a distinct possibility!:tongue, some things are hard to dismiss:

-- People with similar genetic material, raised in different environments, have entirely different outcomes as far as what society generally accepts as "intelligence", including but not limited to earning potential, IQ test results, and whether or not they have "socially acceptable" values.

-- People graduating high school today, even the "stupider" ones, have far greater knowledge stores than people graduating high school as recently as fifty years ago.

-- With the exponential growth of human knowledge, unless we DO have greater storage and usage potential, we are going to become thumb-sucking amoebas at the mercy of machines in the not too distant future.

So, I prefer to cling to my interpretation of information on the subject. I would worry to much for my children -- and their future children -- if I were to believe otherwise.