Getting lobsters high before you nuke em-- better treatment for our meat on the horizon?

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Restaurant tries marijuana for lobsters to take the edge off being boiled

Earlier this year a law was passed in Switzerland prohibiting the boiling alive of lobsters.

An animal rights supporter who has owned the restaurant for seven years, Gill told the Mount Desert Island publication that she’s long struggled with the ethical implications of her line of work. After conducting an experiment in which she “hot-boxed” a particularly aggressive lobster named Roscoe, she came away convinced the high significantly mellowed him out.


I like the idea as I've long felt conflicted about the [mis]treatment of the living creatures we consume.
 

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Or, ya know, you could stop consuming animals and smoke the weed yaself :cool:

I support all measure that reduces the pain and suffering of animals. Humans as a hold are too casual about the suffering they inflict on other living beings.
 

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Or, ya know, you could stop consuming animals and smoke the weed yaself

I smoked for years, lately have been graduating to edibles cuz it's healthier and you get more bang for your buck anyway. My dream is to own an edibles bakery one day. I make the baddest brownies in this hemisphere.
 
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I smoked for years, lately have been graduating to edibles cuz it's healthier and you get more bang for your buck anyway. My dream is to own an edibles bakery one day. I make the baddest brownies in this hemisphere.

I will be the first in line at Marley's Marijuana Brownie Bizzar.
 
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I will be the first in line at Marley's Marijuana Brownie Bizzar.

YASSSSSSSSSSS, though I have been resting on my laurels and do need to learn how to make other treats, but my brownies are as good a start as any. My friends call my rum cake crack but I've never tried making it with bud. Not yet anyway.
 
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I always wonder, why can't they just kill the lobsters before boiling them, maybe by beheading them with a knife. It would be far more humane and as far as I can tell it would have no effect on the taste of the delicious beasties.
 

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Do other predators feel remorse for dispatching their food? Does a bobcat think "aw poor thing, wish I could make this easier on you" before eviscerating a rabbit?

The issue is we humans with our highly evolved intellect and emotions don't consider ourselves predators, when we clearly are.
 

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Do other predators feel remorse for dispatching their food? Does a bobcat think "aw poor thing, wish I could make this easier on you" before eviscerating a rabbit?

The issue is we humans with our highly evolved intellect and emotions don't consider ourselves predators, when we clearly are.

being predators doesn't mean we are exempt from compassion for sentient creatures. do bobcats have smart phones? maybe the problem is that we use being predators as an excuse to be barbaric as if the two are mutually exclusive.
 
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The issue is we humans with our highly evolved intellect and emotions don't consider ourselves predators, when we clearly are.
We are not predators, we are omnivores. And we are capable of empathy for the animals that we farm to eat.
 
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We are not predators, we are omnivores. And we are capable of empathy for the animals that we farm to eat.
Further to that point, we can either treat animals with a certain amount of dignity, and give them a quick clean death, or we can treat them as consumable items in our capitalist economy and forget about decency or respect for life.
 

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Further to that point, we can either treat animals with a certain amount of dignity, and give them a quick clean death, or we can treat them as consumable items in our capitalist economy and forget about decency or respect for life.

Now we're getting somewhere. I've often wondered if the way we treat each other is reflected in the way we harvest living food products, or vice versa.
 
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Now we're getting somewhere. I've often wondered if the way we treat each other is reflected in the way we harvest living food products, or vice versa.
Yeah, it probably is. A society should be judged by how it treats its weakest and poorest. And I guess our farm animals fall into that category (indirectly).
 
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I always wonder, why can't they just kill the lobsters before boiling them, maybe by beheading them with a knife.

Like humans, lobsters have an ecosystem of bacterial flora living in and on their bodies. There is a certain type of bacterial that multiplies like mad when a lobster dies and is also toxic to humans.

They're boiled alive to make the absolute minimal chance that someone gets food poisoning from eating one. They can be killed just before putting them in the pot, but boiling is the lowest possible food poisoning chance.

That doesn't touch on the morality question of it, but that's the reason why they're cooked that way.
 
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People might not like this, but my opinion on the topic is kinda controversial.

People don't care about the way the animal dies because they don't have to do the deed themselves. They don't have a relationship with their food. Raising, caring for, and killing your own food makes the process something to appreciate. It makes life itself something to appreciate.

We would have a lot more vegans in the world of everyone still had to raise and kill their own food... And I wouldn't be one of them. We have eaten fresh meat our whole lives. We raise our own.
 
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