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My wife sometimes cries as she orgasms... it's not really crying (including sobbing etc.), it's just that tears start flowing involuntarily... naturally when I first saw this, I was shocked... I immediately stopped whatever I was doing and asked her if everything was OK..? had I done something wrong..?
I sob hard, or laugh hysterically, or alternate between the two when I cry during orgasm. Has your wife ever laughed?


My wife does this very, very often... not only when she cries... I usually have some marks across my back, arms, or chest from her nails... she grips me really hard... it sometimes hurts, but I like it in a way... in fact, it's one of the best compliments I have ever received...:smile:
Her "crying orgasms" are often accompanied with some swearing... like: "fuck", "shit" or "fuck you" or stuff like that... of course, we always laugh at that later on...
Oh, no! I never scratch my lover. I only dig my nails into inanimate objects.
 

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I sob hard, or laugh hysterically, or alternate between the two when I cry during orgasm. Has your wife ever laughed?

No... well, maybe not YET :smile:

Oh, no! I never scratch my lover. I only dig my nails into inanimate objects.

As I said, I don't really mind... she does feel bad about some of the scratches later, but we usually laugh at it afterwards... it's all OK for me...:smile:

I also remembered one thing... her legs tend to tremble for a long time after those intense orgasms... and if we decide to stop for a while, but I stay inside her, say when she's on top, I can feel her vagina clenching my penis for some time... we usually say: "Oh, they're communicating again!" :smile:
 
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18-21 years old is pretty much the "I'm allowed to have sex, but I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing" age range. Those are the learning years. I'm a firm believer that a person shouldn't even have sex until age 21... but that's another argument all-together.

You guys are still learning a lot about yourselves and each other. The crying, not knowing if/when she orgasms, and the feeling of needing to urinate (guys occasionally get that feeling too before/after they orgasm, even if they really don't have to urinate) are all part of that learning process. I wouldn't say there is anything wrong in you guy's situation though, but like others have said she probably isn't orgasming or she would know it. That's not saying you're doing anything wrong, it's just saying that she probably lacks the physical/emotional understanding to do it.

However, it's far easier to learn about having sex than it is to learn how to have the emotional capacity to be in a loving relationship. That, imo, doesn't even come until age 25+.
 
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Alpha, I have to disagree. Age is a number, nothing more, and those ages you cite don't fit my life at all. I taught myself to orgasm while I was still in middle school, but I didn't know that's what an orgasm was. Even once I'd heard of an orgasm, I didn't know I'd had any until I read a detailed description in a health text book.

I believe that it is entirely possible, depending on the resources and information available, to be having orgasms and not know.

As for your belief that people should not be having sex until they turn 21, that sounds ludicrously arbitrary to me. My equally inexperienced first partner and I taught each other a lot because even though we were pretty young, we were open, we loved each other, we communicated well, and we explored. We enjoyed what we were doing, but knew enough to know that without anything for comparison, we had no idea if either of us was any good. I learned so much about giving and receiving pleasure, and there is absolutely no reason why I would have needed to wait years (which would have seemed like an eternity longer) to begin learning these things. Back then, I did love that guy, and we both believed we were in love, but later experiences taught us that though we loved each other, it was nothing like the love we were capable of feeling with those who came later. He's still one of my closest friends. When I was 19, I discovered more about love, and a loving, giving relationship. As the years wore on, I grew a lot through that relationship. If not for that one, even though ultimately it failed, I would not be happily married now.

I'm 30 now, and my experiences even before I was 21, and certainly before I was 25 have made me into the good lover, and good wife I am now. Your ages are arbitrary and nearly meaningless.
 

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18-21 years old is pretty much the "I'm allowed to have sex, but I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing" age range. Those are the learning years. I'm a firm believer that a person shouldn't even have sex until age 21... but that's another argument all-together.


Sorry, but I don't agree at all. I think it depends on how much experience a person has had and how open they've been to learning. I started having sex at 16 (the legal age of consent here). By the time I was 18 I was well over the learning phase and busy enjoying myself, as were most of my partners.
 

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My point is that people between the ages of 16 and 21 are not mature - at all. They lack the mental and physical capacity for many, many things. I don't think there's many people out there who would disagree with me saying that.

The most "mature" person between the ages 16-21 is not nearly as mature as the most mature person between the ages of 25-30. And they are certainly not as good in bed as person who has a fully grown body and developed mind (i.e. someone who is 25-30). Again, I don't think there's many people out there who would disagree with me saying that. Especially since a person's mind and body doesn't stop growing until their mid to late 20s.

I'm not saying that you can't learn to have sex, or learn to love during those ages. I personally have been having sex since I was 19 years old. However, I was also just an immature kid with an underdeveloped mind and body trying to emulate what adults do. Just because the law says someone is an adult doesn't mean they actually are. Just because the law says someone is able to have sex doesn't mean they should and it certainly doesn't mean they'll be good at it.

If you guys believe those experiences during those ages made you a better person, than that is totally fine by me... I'm definitely not saying that in some way that they couldn't have. But that still doesn't mean that you were having those experiences at an immature age.
 
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Don't back-pedal. What you said was that no one should be having sex before 21. Which is ridiculous. You don't gain maturity by waiting for it to happen. You gain it by having experiences. By the time I was 21, because I'd had a few lovers behind me, and because I'd remained observant, and open-minded, I was an excellent lay. AND because I had learned how to nurture a loving relationship, how to reach my own goals while supporting the agenda of a partner, how to deal with a rough patch in a relationship without losing myself or hurting the other, I was also a really good girlfriend.

So, then you contrast that with my hypothetical same-age competitor. She doesn't know how to help a man find new pleasure, all she knows about sex is from porn and rumors, and possibly a good book or two. SHe doesn't know what she wants from a man, and she doesn't know how hilariously awkward sex can sometimes be at moments, so she's full of tension about things like possibly queefing, or him slipping out, or.. who knows?

We both start seeing the same 26-year-old. Who do you think he prefers?

The ages are arbitrary. I was ready for my experiences to begin when they did. There is no reason for me to have waited an additional 6 years to begin that aspect of my life.
 

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Don't back-pedal. What you said was that no one should be having sex before 21. Which is ridiculous. You don't gain maturity by waiting for it to happen. You gain it by having experiences. By the time I was 21, because I'd had a few lovers behind me, and because I'd remained observant, and open-minded, I was an excellent lay. AND because I had learned how to nurture a loving relationship, how to reach my own goals while supporting the agenda of a partner, how to deal with a rough patch in a relationship without losing myself or hurting the other, I was also a really good girlfriend.

So, then you contrast that with my hypothetical same-age competitor. She doesn't know how to help a man find new pleasure, all she knows about sex is from porn and rumors, and possibly a good book or two. SHe doesn't know what she wants from a man, and she doesn't know how hilariously awkward sex can sometimes be at moments, so she's full of tension about things like possibly queefing, or him slipping out, or.. who knows?

We both start seeing the same 26-year-old. Who do you think he prefers?

The ages are arbitrary. I was ready for my experiences to begin when they did. There is no reason for me to have waited an additional 6 years to begin that aspect of my life.

Back pedalling? :confused: I was explaining why it's my opinion that people shouldn't start having sex until they are at least 21 years old. That's far from ridiculous. What is ridiculous, however, is 15-16 yo's thinking they are mature enough to have sex in the first place.

Secondly, I'm not talking about "sexual maturity". I'm talking about being mature, i.e. fully grown physically and mentally. Those are completely different things.

Yes, you get better at sex by having it. Yes, you get better at relationships by having them. Doesn't mean you have to start at a very young age to be good at either.

Would I personally prefer a partner who was experienced in relationships and sex VS one who was not? Sure. But, like I already said you don't have to have started at such a young age to become experienced.

If I had kids, I'd hate to think that by 21 years old they'd consider themselves an excellent lay. :cool: Good at relationships? I guess that's ok.

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I'm not saying that I completely disagree with you at all or that I don't see any of the points that you are making based on your own personal experiences. Like I mentioned before, I broke my own rule. This is just my viewpoint based on my still very young life experience. :wink:
 
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Don't back-pedal. What you said was that no one should be having sex before 21. Which is ridiculous. You don't gain maturity by waiting for it to happen. You gain it by having experiences. By the time I was 21, because I'd had a few lovers behind me, and because I'd remained observant, and open-minded, I was an excellent lay. AND because I had learned how to nurture a loving relationship, how to reach my own goals while supporting the agenda of a partner, how to deal with a rough patch in a relationship without losing myself or hurting the other, I was also a really good girlfriend.

So, then you contrast that with my hypothetical same-age competitor. She doesn't know how to help a man find new pleasure, all she knows about sex is from porn and rumors, and possibly a good book or two. SHe doesn't know what she wants from a man, and she doesn't know how hilariously awkward sex can sometimes be at moments, so she's full of tension about things like possibly queefing, or him slipping out, or.. who knows?

We both start seeing the same 26-year-old. Who do you think he prefers?

The ages are arbitrary. I was ready for my experiences to begin when they did. There is no reason for me to have waited an additional 6 years to begin that aspect of my life.

I absolutely agree with everything you've said her.

AlphaMale, just because YOU weren't ready to have sex at 16, doesn't mean that others aren't.
 

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I'm not sure there is a correct age to begin having sex at. I waited until right before my 21st birthday, after I got engaged, but my views at that time were old-fashioned and I guess they still are to a certain degree. I'm glad I waited though because the emotional turmoil I went through in that relantionship before we broke up was easier for me to handle than it would have been when I was 18. I was more prepared to deal with it.
 

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AlphaMale, just because YOU weren't ready to have sex at 16, doesn't mean that others aren't.

I didn't realize we were talking about me here (or you for that matter), but at least I'm wise enough to admit that there were some things that I shouldn't be doing and/or wasn't ready for at 16 years old.

Is there anything that YOU weren't ready to do at 16 years old? Apparently not. Based on your replies a person might as well just "take on the world" at that age, right? :rolleyes:
 
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Half an hour is a terribly long time to be having sex, especially vaginal sex, without any change-up or rest periods. I'll bet she's crying out of frustration. OP, what is taking you so long to orgasm?

The point of sex is pleasure, not marathon record-setting. If you are not having fun, it becomes a chore to get through, just like any other activity.

Find out ways of giving one another pleasant sensations without worrying about orgasm. Enjoy one another's company. Learn what she likes and tell her what you like.
 

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Half an hour is a terribly long time to be having sex, especially vaginal sex, without any change-up or rest periods. I'll bet she's crying out of frustration.

ROFL:wink: Could be painful after an extended period of time, I agree. I still think the best thing to do is ask her rather than try to figure it out on here. Asking someone can sometimes open the flood gates to things we never think of.