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I feel ignored, I answered his four questions that no liberal was going to answer or whatever and I get nothing, not even a trolling post. :( :p

Post 37 is obvious flaming, and has nothing to do with politics, or his political affiliation.
 

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Actually (to those who commented) the reason the moderators have done nothing official within this thread is because it is currently being discussed and no matter how much some people would love us to act on impulse and do as we wish (when it suits them ofc) that simply isn't how it's done.

My original post to this thread in no way means the discussion within the mod forum is over, and it is no reflection of any action we may or may not take with regards to this thread when the discussion is over.
The thread is being monitored and rest assured, anything that needs to be discussed will be discussed.

Until a decision can be made by majority vote however, I suggest anyone taking issue with anyone else within this thread (not directed at you specifically) put said "individual" on ignore so that we can all avoid feeling the need to sink to other peoples levels.
I do hope that in your careful consideration and thoughtful deliberations the moderators will look not just at this thread, but the entire posting history of the user in question from his first appearance in this forum more than three weeks ago, including his inciteful, insulting posts here and in other threads, which have continued since your comments, Acon. If one reads his posts in order a clear pattern is plainly evident early on, and it is easily defined. I hope that the moderators will not be distracted by the usual complaint employed by such posters, that any attempt to reprimand them is a move to "censor" their opinions and ideology. That is nothing more than a dishonest deflection from focusing on a clear pattern of bad behavior in evidence from the beginning, a refusal to engage in serious discussion, capped by the user's own admission that his intention and his agenda is to be deliberately inciteful and provocative, in other words trollish. It's the same as what some others have admitted in the recent past with no apparent reprisals. Do we really need it spelled out?

In addition to reaching a wise consensus decision on this one instance, I hope that the moderators will take some time to honestly and objectively discuss and reflect on the following: Why is it that many valued and responsible members feel incrediby frustrated and unduly put upon for trying to uphold a higher level of discourse within the forum when obvious provocative, insulting, inflammatory users are seemingly free to operate unhindered and with impunity, disrupting and derailing discussion after discussion? I hope that the moderators will remind themselves of the tools they themselves put in place to moderate the forum, i.e., a system of warnings, 7 day temp bans, etc., and ask themselves whether it would have been appropriate to take remedial action at some point along the way with this user (and other similar users) before matters got out of hand. If these tools are not used, why not? On the flip side, why is it that certain high profile members were suddenly banned outright from the entire site, apparently without first employing these less drastic options, members who arguably behaved badly at times, but who also contributed much of value and substance to the forum overall and over time?

I hope the moderators will honestly and objectively reflect on why, whether justified in your opinion or not, in the perception of many responsible members certain other members were made "an example", while it appears the moderators are bending over backwards (in an attempt to appear fair and balanced?) accommodating chronically rude posters who just happen to espouse an extreme rightwing ideology - no matter how disruptive and obnoxious they are, no matter how off-topic they are, no matter how little they contribute to the discussions. I hope the moderators will reflect on why these perceptions exist, whether justified in your opinion or not, and how they contribute to an erosion of trust and confidence in the moderators and lead many members to conclude that the forum is not being seriously, sensibly, or well moderated. I hope you will reflect on how you might improve the situation, and thereby the perceptions, through exercising better judgement and more active focused engagement. Otherwise, I think we're bound to end up in the same place again and again.

I reiterate, this is not about anyone's ideology, it is about clear patterns of bad behavior - users who post overwhelmingly off-topic, rude, insulting comments while contributing virtually nothing of substance - in short, obvious trolling. I thank you all for your clear, careful, and objective consideration of these questions.
2) If a user is unable to adhere to the rules then they will be banned from the politics forum for seven (7) days. This ban will only take place in the specific forum and the user will be able to access everywhere else on the site. If a user continues to engage in political discussion or attempts to carry on with a disagreement which resulted in their 7 day ban they will face harsher action. A user will be permitted two (2) seven days bans before they are temp banned from the entire site. Following on from a temp ban is a permanent ban.
 
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In accordance with the amended Political Forum rules, the following heads-up is being issued.

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By a consensus of the Moderating Team it has been determined that your posts in the thread Glenn Beck Conspiracy Generator are in violation of the Terms of Service and the Rules of the Politics forum.

This is an official Heads-Up to you from the Moderation Team.*

Your posts must conform with the rules of LPSG. Failure to insure that they do will have negative consequences on your continued participation on the website.

Please read the rules and the Terms of Service.
 

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Thanks got it. it would be nice if you let me know what policies i have violated, so as to not step on anyones feet
 

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hey Iam really sorry for firing you guys up but i was having to much fun, yes at your expense. i will be a good boy after reading the rules for the board, i will only add my positive 2 cents from here on. I was being quite a provocateur, so i stand corrected. i sincerely appologize for being a dickhead to any of you. from here on i will be very respectful to everyone on this board and thats my promise. i am a very sincere guy who is typically very reasonable, I would happen to agree with some of your posts on be being over the top. well from here i will do my best to be on my best behavior.

Sincerely Flame80
 

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I got:

The freedom-haters who have infiltrated our government are using gestapo tactics so they can force you to gay-marry an illegal immigrant in a mosque at Ground Zero.

Actually, that might have been Glenn Beck's lead story last night. It's hard to tell the difference. :tongue:

Kidding aside, I'm not sure what's scarier: what Glenn Beck says or that there are people who actually believe what he says.
 

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i really like glen beck alot, say what you want but i have never heard him speak negatively about anyone. Unbeknownst to you, if you dont listen , he does not preach any hatred. Yes there are lots of people that believe what he says, as i do. What is the problem and what has he said that makes you say what you are saying? It might be better understood if you say what it is that he is saying that makes you feel this way, rather than haphazardly saying what you are saying. Another words, site his words and your thoughts on what he said. From there leave the debate open, so we can discuss it further.
 

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^OK I'll look for the clips, but can you tell me something? Threatening to kill Michael Morre, and poisoning Nancy Pelosi seemed pretty negative to me.
 

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i really like glen beck alot, say what you want but i have never heard him speak negatively about anyone. Unbeknownst to you, if you dont listen , he does not preach any hatred. Yes there are lots of people that believe what he says, as i do. What is the problem and what has he said that makes you say what you are saying? It might be better understood if you say what it is that he is saying that makes you feel this way, rather than haphazardly saying what you are saying. Another words, site his words and your thoughts on what he said. From there leave the debate open, so we can discuss it further.

So do you agree with these comments?
YouTube - ‪When Is Enough Enough? Beck's Rabid Hate Speech On Fox News‬‏
 

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I'd say his speaking about the Worldwide Caliphate and New World Order of which both President Bush's and President Obama as well as the leftist communist/socialists of this country are all part of is pure crazy talk. He even warned CPAC to be careful this year as he believes they were infiltrated by radical jihadists intent on creating Chaos. I actually listen to his radio program every day for entertainment as I drive my car. These are things I have heard him say. Who knows what he says when I'm not listening.


http://mediamatters.org/research/201102180037

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2380384,00.asp

http://www.examiner.com/political-b...n-glenn-beck-over-caliphate-conspiracy-theory

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...uslim_leaders_want_the_antichrist_to_ret.html

http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/02/glenn-beck-muslim-faction-wants-to-bring-about-apocalypse/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/18/glenn-beck-muslims-antichrist_n_824963.html
 
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Ok I wll listen and read, theres not much I have heard glen beck say, that i dont agree with. I will do my due deligence on this and get back with you. I will say this, that both sides have very bombastic people saying things that are suspect.
 

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On the subject of distasteful persons on the forum I've not seen Hilaire since he and maxcock had their little dust up last week. Is Hilaire gone? I hope so.
 

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Well I watched it and read it, its just Glen Beck, hes funny and goofy at the same time. He really truly means absolutely no harm to anyone. He has his view, goofy as it may be, he makes his points understood with big time generalizations. Like wishing harm to Michael Moore or poisoning Nancy Pelosi, be honest with this, Look at his video clip and how he is saying about Pelosi and he is totally laughing. Yes he is saying it in jest and i dare to say, it could be irritating to the opposing side. Do remember, when Nancy and Michael put themselves out in the public eye, they are fair game to comment on. Its not like we dont hear Michael Moore and Nancy Pelosi"s side on things. And last but not least, How about the left putting out a movie about assasinating President george W Bush? Is this not all the same?
 

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Well I watched it and read it, its just Glen Beck, hes funny and goofy at the same time. He really truly means absolutely no harm to anyone. He has his view, goofy as it may be, he makes his points understood with big time generalizations. Like wishing harm to Michael Moore or poisoning Nancy Pelosi, be honest with this, Look at his video clip and how he is saying about Pelosi and he is totally laughing. Yes he is saying it in jest and i dare to say, it could be irritating to the opposing side. Do remember, when Nancy and Michael put themselves out in the public eye, they are fair game to comment on. Its not like we dont hear Michael Moore and Nancy Pelosi"s side on things. And last but not least, How about the left putting out a movie about assasinating President george W Bush? Is this not all the same?

Believe it or not I'm not the opposing side. Maybe Mr. Beck should move his program to Comedy Central. Perhaps he could follow Jon Stewart's Daily Show if that is how he and his production team want to market his program and his commentary.
Maybe I'm being naive but releasing a film and anchoring a news commentary program are not really the same thing... but by todays standards possibly it is.
 

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Well I watched it and read it, its just Glen Beck, hes funny and goofy at the same time.

He's not a comedian.

He really truly means absolutely no harm to anyone. He has his view, goofy as it may be, he makes his points understood with big time generalizations.

And for someone with his title and stature, that's a dangerous thing to do.

Like wishing harm to Michael Moore or poisoning Nancy Pelosi

Even a comedian can be sued (or even arrested) for making such comments.

be honest with this, Look at his video clip and how he is saying about Pelosi and he is totally laughing.

Doesn't matter if he's laughing. That makes it a bad joke.
And again, Beck is not a comedian.

Yes he is saying it in jest and i dare to say, it could be irritating to the opposing side.

No, it's just irritating. :rolleyes:

Do remember, when Nancy and Michael put themselves out in the public eye, they are fair game to comment on.

Yes, and there's a proper way to do such things. Threatening to do harm to political and public figures isn't the way to do it.

Its not like we dont hear Michael Moore and Nancy Pelosi"s side on things.

We do. And they don't use threats of violence disguised as "jokes" to do it.

And last but not least, How about the left putting out a movie about assasinating President george W Bush? Is this not all the same?

The original "Death of a President" is a Polish movie from 1977 which depicts the 1922 assassination of the first President of Poland Gabriel Narutowicz. The 2006 version was a British mockumentary about the assassination of George W. Bush. Neither of these films were made in the United States, so "the left" didn't depict anyone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President_(1977_film)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President_(2006_film)

But I'm sure Beck probably told his masses the exact opposite. This is why the man is dangerous.
 
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Evidence that Beck has "Teh Crazy"
Glenn Beck: Wisconsin Unions, Muslim Brotherhood All Just Want New World Order


Glenn Beck told viewers of his Fox News program today that the U.N., unions and the Muslim Brotherhood were all just working towards a New World Order and that protesters in Wisconsin were "looking to create chaos on the backs of the worker when the world's focus is on Egypt."
"Unions claim the cuts will affect teachers but it's not the everyday teacher that this story is really all about," Beck said.
"There are three groups of people," Beck explained. "They want a new world order. This is your choice. One world government. This is open society. This is United Nations, whatever you want to call it. One world government. They have lots of money and lots of power and they have NGOs, non-governmental organizations."
"This is the United Islamics Nations, this is the one the Muslim Brotherhood is going for now. But it all looked like this, a new world order. They are organized, too. They have the religion and mosques and apparently help from Google as well... at least in Egypt.



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