Glenn Beck: Jew-hater, or Anti-Semite?

[pedercic99]

And no, the fact that Murdoch is Jewish is not lost on me at all.

This is a fact? Are you quite sure?

 

[invisibleman]

LIBTARD isn't as bad as RETURDUCKEN party or the PEE TARDY movement.

 

[faceking]

You are too angry...


...lighten up, Francis.

As usual, you miss the point entirely. At the same time you ironically illustrate it with your post. The operative word was "you", not "liberals". I couldn't give a flying fuck what you or anyone else call me. The point is not to make blanket assumptions and lump everyone together under a single label who may or may not agree with you on a given issue, especially if you haven't engaged them, especially if they haven't even weighed in. Capiche?
I realize that may be too fine a point for your chemical soaked conservitard brain to sort out, but try.

And the idea that progressives and liberals are capable of group think and can unite under one banner is just laughable. They're too free-thinking and respecting of individuality to take marching orders like their braindead propagandized so-called "conservative" cousins. Hell, they can't even agree on what song to free-style to. That right there is the liberal/progressive dilemna and why they get repeatedly steamrolled by a win-by-any-means minority opposition. It's the triumph of party discipline and cynicism over diversity and integrity.

 

[Bbucko]

This is a fact? Are you quite sure?

No. If you read the thread you'd see that Calboner disabused me of that notion, and I corrected it myself.

 

[NumberTwentySix]

Wait, am I to understand that all this outrage is in defense of George Soros? What has he ever done for us? Why can't the billionaire fight his own battle with the talk show host?

 

[justasimpleguy]

It's not in defense of Soros. It is to stop Beck before he takes our national discourse to a place where it's acceptable to speak in the violent language of ignorance, bigotry and elimination.
Much in the same way that a bar fight is gradually escalated by language before any real violence is done, a nation's people need years of talk dehumanizing the "other" and legitimizing violence before they'll take up arms against their neighbors and murder them. Anyone who pays attention to history knows the national media in country did this before genocides in the Balkans, Africa and Southeast Asia.
I doubt Beck knows his history, but Americans who do cannot let people like him talk like that without heaping ridicule and condemnation upon him.

 

[maxcok]

From the "you can't make this ironical shit up" dept.​

Glenn Beck and Fox News CEO Roger Ailes* are Hunting for Nazis!!!
*(also longtime Republican strategist, major kingpin for the racist "Southern strategy", and media consultant to three presidents)​

Fox News and NPR once again found themselves in the news Thursday, this time driven by the comments of Fox News chief Roger Ailes, who in published remarks referred to NPR executives as "Nazis" for terminating the contract of news analyst Juan Williams. In remarks published in the Daily Beast on Thursday, Ailes said this of NPR executives: "They are, of course, Nazis. They have a kind of Nazi attitude. They are the left wing of Nazism. These guys don’t want any other point of view. They don’t even feel guilty using tax dollars to spout their propaganda. They are basically Air America with government funding to keep them alive."

[Editor's note: Although there are now strident calls on Fox and from congressional Republicans to strip NPR of funding, the network receives less than 2% of its funding from the Feds. I think it will survive.]

On his TV and radio shows, Glenn Beck has attacked the Obama administration and its liberal allies as Nazis many times. "You have to think like a German Jew [in] 1934," he said on his radio show on one occasion. On another, he said on Fox: "Well, some believe that the idea of eugenics got ugly before they started gassing Jews and homosexuals."

Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank has followed the rhetorical blasts and footage on Beck's show closely. "A lot of it is the imagery — you know the Nazi banners, the Nazi parades," said Milbank, author of a new book on Beck called Tears of a Clown. "We've seen this movie before — as the Nazis march across the screen." Beck and Ailes are by no means the first to call others Nazis. But Fox News does stand out amid mainstream media outlets for its ferocity and frequency in doing so. Milbank found Beck had referred to Hitler or Nazis on his Fox News program several hundred times.

Fox News did not comment for this story. However, in February 2009, Beck told NPR that Ailes promised him free rein when he joined Fox. "He said, 'I look at this place as the Alamo.' I said, 'How do you mean?' And he said, 'Just nobody gonna shut anybody up here. This is where the truth will take its last stand. You say it as you believe it.'"

That very month, Beck dipped into his treasure trove of Nazi allusions to assail former Vice President Al Gore's appeal for environmental awareness. "The government and their friends are indoctrinating our children for the control of their minds, your freedom, our choice and our future," Beck said on his show. "This is what Nazi Joseph Goebbels said about the Hitler Youth."

The piece de resistance came just last week about the liberal billionaire financier George Soros, who is a Jewish survivor of the Holocaust. Beck called him "The Puppet Master." "He's known as the man who broke the Bank of England. The prime minister of Malaysia called Soros an unscrupulous profiteer. In Thailand he was branded the economic war criminal," Beck said on Fox earlier this month. "They also said he sucks the blood of people."

Deborah Lipstadt, professor of Holocaust Studies at Emory University, says Beck is using traditional anti-Semitic imagery. She notes that the Malaysian prime minister cited by Beck had also ranted that Jews were behind his economy's instability, and that Beck even claimed Soros as a young teen collaborated with the Nazis in his native Hungary. "I haven't heard anything like this on television or radio — and I've been following this kind of stuff for many years," Lipstadt said. "And I've been in the sewers of anti-Semitism and holocaust denial more often than I've wanted."

-- Edited from a report by David Folkenflik : NPR ​

Full audio and abbreviated transcript here. Only 5 mins!

Fox News 'Nazi' Rhetoric Comes From The Top : NPR​

Editor's footnote: Roger Ailes served as media consultant for Nixon, Reagan and Bush I. He worked closely with Lee Atwater, chief architect of the racially exploitive "Southern strategy" that converted the traditionally Democratic south to Republican. Though the message was coded and tempered over the years to be an issue of "States' Rights", this more than any other factor is responsible for the Republicans' power and ability to win congressional and presidential elections over the past four decades. As just one example, working on the 1988 Bush I presidential campaign, Ailes and his crony Atwater were responsible for the infamous Willie Horton ad that sunk Democrat Michael Dukakis. ​

From Wiki: Bush's campaign manager, Lee Atwater, predicted that "by the time this election is over, Willie Horton will be a household name." Media consultant Roger Ailes remarked "the only question is whether we depict Willie Horton with a knife in his hand or without it."​

Can't teach these old dogs new tricks. Looks like Ailes just might have a new 50 state "Southern" strategy.​

Exclusive interview where arrogant old fart shoots off his mouth to The Daily Beast's Howard Kurtz. It's wild.

Part I: Fox News Chairman Roger Ailes Slams White House

Part II: Roger Ailes on Jon Stewart, Juan Williams, and NPR

 

[faceking]

"It's not in defense of Soros. It is to stop Beck before he takes our national discourse to a place where it's acceptable to speak in the violent language of ignorance, bigotry and elimination."

Blah blah blah... Beck, Olbermann, Maddow, Hannity... they are all hacks. I whole heartedly assume you can spot and are just as vehement on ignorance, bigotry,.. and moreover exploitation from the left/liberals... otherwise, you are yet another hypocrite.

 

[maxcok]

You are too angry...


...lighten up, Francis.

Now that's ironic. Pot calling kettle. LOL.

Where did get from my response that I was angry anyway?

You grossly overestimate yourself, fool.

Just like you overestimate your sexual prowess.

 

[Speculator]

So in other words, you are a racist. Thank you for not only contradicting yourself but finally admitting it. I mean, it's not as if only white people are anglo-saxon or anything, you just so happen to mention a skin color before that just for emphasis, right? You just used your First Amendment right to say something hateful and ignorantly propagate what you assume to be a superior species of person to everyone else based on cultural background and race, and nobody is supposed to take offense because that was your belief. This, and your nonsense about how you should be free to say n***er when you want to and anyone can figure out just how pathetic of a human being you are. I'd advise you to not attempt to engage in any discussion with me, because I promise you won't like the response. Engaging "ignorant racist bigot" filter in 5... 4... 3... 2...

More faux outrage, you just can't help yourself can you? Picking apart somebody's post just to demonstrate how offended you are is the sign of a real intellectual minnow (that's a small fish btw), it's why I'm so tired of libtards. You don't want to address the point you're only interested in smearing your opponent into submission. Well that won't work with me, I know what your little game is and I couldn't care less how "hateful" you find my opinions.


You find the term "white anglo saxon" culture offensive because I'm not championing a "minority". This is the way it works, we're allowed to promote cultural identity for some groups but not others. So if I had said black African culture or American Indian culture (or whatever it's allowed to be called this week) you'd have not battered an eyelid. But because I used the pre-fix white in your libtarded worldview that makes me a nasty wacist. Get real! It's actually you that's the racist, you're implying that certain groups are weak and therefore warrent protection, and others are strong and deserve to be attacked. If that's not a racist outlook I don't know what is, how can you live with yourself?

 

[Speculator]

Gee whiz. Can we all come live with you in your imaginary post-racial Utopia?

Jawohl!

You went for the low hanging fruit I see, congrats. Keep on fighting your imaginary race war. I'll just sit this one out if it's all the same with you.

 

[b.c.]

^ You do that, Ace. And while you're at it, you and all of your ilk who want to "take this country back" can take this sobering thought with you: Barack Obama isn't the last minority President of America... he's merely the FIRST.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

More faux outrage, you just can't help yourself can you?

Dear, if you think this is "anger" you're getting from me I can only wonder what would you say or do if I really were angry? Again nimrod, you can say that I'm a "libtard" and "angry" a million more times and it won't change the fact that I'm neither. It's as if I'm arguing with Pee Wee Herman repeating the same thing like a CD on infinite repeat.

Picking apart somebody's post just to demonstrate how offended you are is the sign of a real intellectual minnow (that's a small fish btw), it's why I'm so tired of libtards.

No, sweetie. I type quickly and I have a lot to say. Besides, for you to measure my intellect against yours is like trying to measure your dick against Mandingo.

You don't want to address the point you're only interested in smearing your opponent into submission.

And you don't think you're not trying to "smear" me by continually calling me a libtard and angry? Shut the fuck up, hypocrite. BTW, I've already addressed your points so many times that I'm not even going to bother repeating myself.

Well that won't work with me, I know what your little game is and I couldn't care less how "hateful" you find my opinions.

I find them more ignorant than hateful to be honest with you.

You find the term "white anglo saxon" culture offensive because I'm not championing a "minority".

No, sweetie. I don't find any culture "offensive". What I do find ignorant is how you try to propagate one culture of people (based on social class and skin color) as being more superior than others. Meanwhile you whine and bitch about people calling you a racist. Do you find it necessary to contradict yourself this much or are you just bred to be a hypocrite?

This is the way it works, we're allowed to promote cultural identity for some groups but not others. So if I had said black African culture or American Indian culture (or whatever it's allowed to be called this week) you'd have not battered an eyelid.

No, that's not what would have happened. Again, your bigoted and racist mind would assume that since I'm a minority that I wouldn't flinch if another minority was mentioned. You know, I can sense this "VinylBoy hates white people" vibe coming from you, and I need to remind you that once I'm finish debunking your rhetoric (again) and making you look even more stupid (again) I will be climbing in bed with my life partner of nearly seven years who is white. Also, many other pions before you (who are all featured on my ignore list and managed to get themselves permanently banned from this forum) tried to do exactly what you're doing now. Unfortunately for you, too many people here know me to know that I don't hate anyone based on their skin color. In your case, I hate you because you're STUPID. Which makes it even more ironic that you're now trying to talk about a supposed "superior culture" because it's obvious you don't belong to one.

But because I used the pre-fix white in your libtarded worldview that makes me a nasty wacist.

No... it makes you a fuckin' moron first. Racist is just the word you want to cry over. Trust me, I don't have to use the words that make you jump up and down and take temper tantrums over. I have an extensive vocabulary and hundreds of ways to call you a moron.

Get real! It's actually you that's the racist, you're implying that certain groups are weak and therefore warrent protection, and others are strong and deserve to be attacked. If that's not a racist outlook I don't know what is, how can you live with yourself?

What you don't understand is the people that I usually defend around here are those that are poor and struggling. And last time I checked, the mass majority of these people in this country are also white. Any elementary level crunching of Census numbers would reflect this. So am I really the "racist" if I'm taking a stance that protects people regardless of their skin color? Or do you honestly think that "money" is a race now?

Damn you're so stupid. But seriously, keep going with your growingly idiotic assumptions and ignorant, xenophobic banter. I'm starting to enjoy watching you squirm. LOL!!!!

 

[Speculator]

^ You do that, Ace. And while you're at it, you and all of your ilk who want to "take this country back" can take this sobering thought with you: Barack Obama isn't the last minority President of America... he's merely the FIRST.

It's interesting that you're so willing to play the race card, I don't think like that so his minortity status is of no importance to me. Anyway, I'm not American so he's not my president (thank god). As some other posters have pointed out, I'm not an Obama critic because of his skin colour, I think he's a useless president because his policies suck.

Our previous PM -Gordon Brown- was a white man, but that didn't stop me from hating his stupid socialist guts for every minute of everyday.

But don't let these little details get in the way of you claiming the moral high-ground, carry on fighting your imaginary war and dividing people up between "racists" and "progressives", it's such a helpful outlook!

 

[Speculator]

Hey Vinylboy, I see you lurking and waiting for my response just so you have a reason to spout your hatred once again. Well you're going to be waiting for a while, I'll reply to your ranting tonight, if you're lucky.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Hey Vinylboy, I see you lurking and waiting for my response just so you have a reason to spout your hatred once again. Well you're going to be waiting for a while, I'll reply to your ranting tonight, if you're lucky.

No... I just got back from helping my friend celebrate his birthday and I'm still wound up. Clubs out here in New York stay open till at least 4AM on the weekend. If anything, you're the nut hugger on this thread. You're the one who started with me. And as much as I appreciate your offer, you can get off your knees because I don't mercy date.

Now do you have anything to actually contribute to this thread or do you want to continue this pathetic game of playing the dozens? Either way, you're not going to win so you should just shut your hole and go back to Stormfront where you came from.

 

[maxcok]

You went for the low hanging fruit I see, congrats. Keep on fighting your imaginary race war. I'll just sit this one out if it's all the same with you.

Are you a fruit? I had you pegged more as a jackbooted white supremacist forum troll.

I used to be an utter libtard on the matter, like Vinylboy. The gov't at the time were trampling all over Muslims' rights, even taking one young muslim woman to court for writing "dangerous" poetry. Then after sitting next to an American at work for a year or so he showed me the error of my ways and coaxed out my inner "racist", I fought it initially but he was quite persuasive. I don't think the label racist is very helpful though, it has all sorts of negative connotations and is a bit of mental roadblock for libtards, they can't get passed it.

I'm actually a culturalist. I believe that some cultures are superior to others and your cultural background (or ideology if you will) is far more important than a trivial issue such as skin colour. That means I tend to write off certain countries as well as the people living within them with sweeping generalisations, but life's too short to worry about the odd bit of stereotyping.

All cultures have their downsides, but some have a lot more than others. I would have no hesitation in putting white anglo-saxon culture near the top of the list, but to paraphrase Churchill, only because it's the least worst option.

The simple painful truth is you're a spineless pathetic weakling.

You abandoned your own ethical compass and moral center for the hateful preachings of a racist.

I don't think the label racist is very helpful though, it has all sorts of negative connotations . . .

Gee, I wonder why?

I believe that some cultures are superior to others and your cultural background (or ideology if you will) is far more important than a trivial issue such as skin colour.

"Cultures", eh? Clever way to hide what you are and try to sound PC, but you're still just a plain old racist.

And the "culture" that holds supremacy for you just happens by sheer coincidence to be lily white.

. . . life's too short to worry about the odd bit of stereotyping.

Good. Then you won't object if I call you a weak spineless pathetic neo-Nazi forum troll, will you? Sieg heil! :smile:

 

[Speculator]

Good. Then you won't object if I call you a weak spineless pathetic neo-Nazi forum troll, will you? Sieg heil! :smile:

Well well, another lefty lazily invokes images of nazi Germany to show how compassionate he is. It's a pity the U.S weren't as self-righteous when, you know, Hitler was alive and busy murdering jews all over Europe. How long did it take you to get your act together over here? 3 maybe 4 years? Don't talk to me about naziism when your own country was prepared to sit it out and watch events unfold, you havn't got a leg to stand on.

Time to look in the mirror buddy.

 

[D_CountdeGrandePinja]

He's a hater of anyone not like him!!! Glad I'd be on his hate list too.

 

[maxcok]

Well well, another lefty lazily invokes images of nazi Germany to show how compassionate he is. It's a pity the U.S weren't as self-righteous when, you know, Hitler was alive and busy murdering jews all over Europe. How long did it take you to get your act together over here? 3 maybe 4 years? Don't talk to me about naziism when your own country was prepared to sit it out and watch events unfold, you havn't got a leg to stand on.

Time to look in the mirror buddy.

Erm . . . how old do you think I am? Sorry, I wasn't even around then, much less in government, so it really doesn't make sense for you to expect me to take responsibility for something that happened before I was born. I can't take responsibility for slavery or the exploitation of Native Americans (by British colonists) either, although I deeply empathize, and I'm quite sure I would have protested had I been around at the time. You wouldn't obviously, since you are a self-identified racist from a superior "culture".

Way to try deflecting away from your ugliness by jacking the thread with that Brit vs. Yank red herring.
But before we leave the subject entirely . . . however late you think America got to the party, it's probably a good thing we went over to the Continent and saved your ass, eh? And don't criticize us too harshly. We are, after all, your colonial children.

Anyway, my legs feel just fine, quite sturdy in fact, and I look damn good in the mirror.


p.s. I don't waste 'compassion' on white supremacists and weak spineless pathetic neo-Nazi forum trolls. Sorry.