Global warming?

[Kassokilleri2ff]

You people know you can actually go and learn the science right? Like...maybe you should try that.

 

[rbkwp]

damn hot out there today
Febs reputedly the hottest month of the year in NZ .. fact'/confused!

quite positive the US lead coalitions Air Strikes have upset the issue down here?? duh !

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/6262322-3x2-700x467.jpg

 

[rbkwp]

yes
in my line of thinking real unforunate that Cameroon is going the way of Indonesia/Malaysia re Palm Oil and the destruction re there Natural forests
cant believe that in my lifetime have seen the growth of this Palm oil industry
still
possibly a better way of destroying the World, than all these senseless Wars?? unforunately ..
been feeling for the undeveloped African Countries the last 20 years or so,
so dont really blame them? sad as it is ...


People & Power: From Africa’s Palms

Published on Feb 26, 2015
People & Power investigates the environmental consequences of palm oil plantations in equatorial Africa.

 

[rbkwp]

oastal erosion as was mentioned earlier

reminds me once in Australia about 10 years ago when i sweetly/gently suggested to a guy that he shouldent really be chainsawing some mangroves he was attacking, for firewood i assumed?)..
he just looked at me with a why? look .. ha
(Aussie has so very much trees for firewood/but this burns better when dry apparently)


Malaysia moves against coastal erosion crisis

Published on Feb 26, 2015
Government funding efforts to grow essential plants and but some NGOs say more needs to be done and quickly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFd7oM2sREo&feature=em-uploademail

 

[slurper_la]

Ok, so remind me,where's the global warming? I'm sitting here in 14 inches of snow, single digit temperatures. Gimme the global warming!

Glacial Melting In Antarctica Makes Continent The 'Ground Zero Of Global Climate Change'
Glacial Melting In Antarctica Makes Continent The 'Ground Zero Of Global Climate Change'

 

[rbkwp]

Brilliant idea or is the pleasant Aussie accent as good ha
well worth a GOOGLE

google eco watch revolutionary beehive invention

Revolutionary Honey Harvesting Beehive Crowdsources $2 Million in First Day

Anastasia Pantsios | February 23, 2015 3:05 pm | Comments


Father and son beekeepers from Bryon Bay, Australia—Stuart and Cedar Anderson—boast that they have created “a revolutionary beehive invention allowing you to harvest honey without opening the hive and with minimal disturbance to the bees.” They say, “Flow is the most significant invention in beekeeping since 1852.” And, apparently Stuart and Cedar Anderson are far from the only people that think so.

 

[kennethmarkzamora]

If you go to asian countries, its boiling!

 

[deleted15807]

RIAW

Why We Don’t Care About Saving Our Grandchildren From Climate Change

A new study shows that human beings are too selfish to endure present pain to avert future climate change.​

 

[rbkwp]

GOOD News
Russia is in SPRING
apparently the rest of the Word (Western) does not have a Spring ..
too busy creating Wars amongst themselves to be bothered with a little thing like Spring weather .


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Polar Bears Club. "Real Russia" ep.95 (4K)

Real Russia
At the 28th of February, 2015 we came to film the All Russia 24-hours Torch of "Polar Bears" of Russia dedicated to the 70-Years Anniversary of the Victory in a World War II.

More than 200 "walruses" (that's how we call "polar bears") from 20 regions of Russia came to the city of Ufa, the capital of Bashkortostan Republic of Russia that to participate in this Torch. But besides Ufa, the Torch like this also went in many other cities of Russia.

We came just to film and show about it, but suddenly became a participants ourselves.

It was pretty amazing experience to make a 50-meters swim through the freezing cold water in a hole of the Soldier's Lake in the Park of Ivan Yakutov.

Then to warm up in a "mobile bath house" right inside of the truck and finally to drink a tea deep inside of "Polar Bears Club of Ufa, Russia"

 

[littleguyhugedick]

What warming? Earth is only going through one of her many cycles. 200years ago there was a mini ICE AGE in the Northeast!

 

[tobymerwin]

What warming? Earth is only going through one of her many cycles. 200years ago there was a mini ICE AGE in the Northeast!

You're absolutely right! There have been many ice ages throughout the known history of man and this planet. There have also been periods of significant warming. After WWII, when the industrial age took off and Co2 was being pumped into the atmosphere like crazy, the earth actually started cooling. Then, in the 1970's, it began to warm again. Now, it's beginning to cool back down. There is nothing "man made" about climate change. It's a HUGE money-making religion that has sucked in millions of people. There are much bigger things to worry about.

 

[rbkwp]

smiling
who is worrying about GW/CC
eveyone knows about Ice Ages and everything that takes place/has taken place on earth
everythings fair game for commenting on
biggest nuisance value i see, and something definitly to worry abouit
is Humankinds madness for Wars, conventional or Nuclear/whatever
almost a case of sooner it all ends, the better huh?


our pollution levels in Auckland have not reached the stage where we have to get rid of our homes open fireplaces .. yet .. 2015
(one of the joys ofbeing in a hick backward Country i geuss)


Open fireplace ban unlikely in Auckland | Stuff.co.nz

 

[Bardox]

What warming? Earth is only going through one of her many cycles. 200years ago there was a mini ICE AGE in the Northeast!

I will assume you are talking about the "Little Ice Age"? While I doubt you know what you are talking about, I will pretend that you do.

This period of cooling was restricted to the northern hemisphere due to high volcanic activity. This activity put tons of volcanic ash in the lower atmosphere blocking much of the heat from the sun, which itself was in a low activity phase at the time meaning it was putting out less heat than normal which would have brought the temp don't slightly anyway. The planet was also coming out of a warming period meaning the fresh and salt water in the oceans were out of sync causing a reduction in the ocean currents meaning they didn't spread heat around as well as they normally would driving the temp down. And there was little to no human activity contributing to this process yet.

The suns low activity and the slowing of the ocean currents would have dropped temperatures around the world a few degrees, but the "mini ice age" as you call it was cause by hyper active volcanoes. The fact that it's effects were contained to the north, by definition, means it was not a global event. The global warming that is taking place right now is a global event. There is not a series of hyper active volcanoes now. The sun is in an elevated cycle, but not enough to cause the temperature changes when are seeing. Human industrial activity has increased the levels of heat trapping gases in our atmosphere driving up the global temp. It is not the only factor, but it is one that we can do something about. Not sure how much longer we can continue burning coal, fossil fuels, and producing green house gases before the damage is too great to reverse.

You're absolutely right! There have been many ice ages throughout the known history of man and this planet. There have also been periods of significant warming. After WWII, when the industrial age took off and Co2 was being pumped into the atmosphere like crazy, the earth actually started cooling. Then, in the 1970's, it began to warm again. Now, it's beginning to cool back down. There is nothing "man made" about climate change. It's a HUGE money-making religion that has sucked in millions of people. There are much bigger things to worry about.

Uh... no... Calling climate change/global warming a religion, money making or otherwise, implies that it is a belief without evidence. There are mountains of evidence, you simply don't want to believe it or lack the intellectual curiosity to look it up. Not understanding something doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means you don't understand it.

I'm sure it's been rather cold where you are for a while now, but that is due to this magical thing we have called winter. With the increase in global temp the atmosphere itself is moving faster. Something that happens to gases when you heat them up. This means the northern polar vortex is able to swing around more broadly hence your unusually intense winter events. Just because it is cold where you are doesn't mean the planet if colder.

If too much of the ice caps melt the balance of salt and fresh water will slow the ocean currents meaning the heat they carry from the equator will not be spread as far. Meaning sever temperature drops world wide. If they slow too much it will not be able to contain the gases (O2,Co2,etc) trapped with in the seas and they will bubble up. If the O2 in the water drops too much there will be mass deaths of sea life which effects life above the water in all manors of way i don't have space here to go into.

Bigger things to worry about?? Global warming/climate change can turn the entire planet hostile to human life. Teen pregnancy, unemployment rates, and even ISIS do not compare. There might be more immediate things to worry about, but not "bigger".

 

[tobymerwin]

I will assume you are talking about the "Little Ice Age"? While I doubt you know what you are talking about, I will pretend that you do.

This period of cooling was restricted to the northern hemisphere due to high volcanic activity. This activity put tons of volcanic ash in the lower atmosphere blocking much of the heat from the sun, which itself was in a low activity phase at the time meaning it was putting out less heat than normal which would have brought the temp don't slightly anyway. The planet was also coming out of a warming period meaning the fresh and salt water in the oceans were out of sync causing a reduction in the ocean currents meaning they didn't spread heat around as well as they normally would driving the temp down. And there was little to no human activity contributing to this process yet.

The suns low activity and the slowing of the ocean currents would have dropped temperatures around the world a few degrees, but the "mini ice age" as you call it was cause by hyper active volcanoes. The fact that it's effects were contained to the north, by definition, means it was not a global event. The global warming that is taking place right now is a global event. There is not a series of hyper active volcanoes now. The sun is in an elevated cycle, but not enough to cause the temperature changes when are seeing. Human industrial activity has increased the levels of heat trapping gases in our atmosphere driving up the global temp. It is not the only factor, but it is one that we can do something about. Not sure how much longer we can continue burning coal, fossil fuels, and producing green house gases before the damage is too great to reverse.



Uh... no... Calling climate change/global warming a religion, money making or otherwise, implies that it is a belief without evidence. There are mountains of evidence, you simply don't want to believe it or lack the intellectual curiosity to look it up. Not understanding something doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means you don't understand it.

I'm sure it's been rather cold where you are for a while now, but that is due to this magical thing we have called winter. With the increase in global temp the atmosphere itself is moving faster. Something that happens to gases when you heat them up. This means the northern polar vortex is able to swing around more broadly hence your unusually intense winter events. Just because it is cold where you are doesn't mean the planet if colder.

If too much of the ice caps melt the balance of salt and fresh water will slow the ocean currents meaning the heat they carry from the equator will not be spread as far. Meaning sever temperature drops world wide. If they slow too much it will not be able to contain the gases (O2,Co2,etc) trapped with in the seas and they will bubble up. If the O2 in the water drops too much there will be mass deaths of sea life which effects life above the water in all manors of way i don't have space here to go into.

Bigger things to worry about?? Global warming/climate change can turn the entire planet hostile to human life. Teen pregnancy, unemployment rates, and even ISIS do not compare. There might be more immediate things to worry about, but not "bigger".

THE ICE CAPS ARE NOT MELTING! ICE IS NOT MELTING! NOT AT THE NORTH POLE OR THE SOUTH POLE. YOUR "SCIENCE" IS BEING FED TO YOU BY THE POLITICAL APPOINTEES OF THE IPCC, MANY OF WHOM RESIGNED BECAUSE THEY'RE FED UP WITH THE LIES. If climate change could turn this planet hostile to human life, human life would have been extinct thousands of years ago. And as far as your sob story about sea life goes, we were told back in 1988 that if we didn't do something right away, every living creature in the water would die. Well, here we are, almost 30 years later and everything's fine. First, we're headed for and ice age, now we're headed for a meltdown. When are you people going to give the hell up?

 

[Bardox]

THE ICE CAPS ARE NOT MELTING! ICE IS NOT MELTING! NOT AT THE NORTH POLE OR THE SOUTH POLE. YOUR "SCIENCE" IS BEING FED TO YOU BY THE POLITICAL APPOINTEES OF THE IPCC, MANY OF WHOM RESIGNED BECAUSE THEY'RE FED UP WITH THE LIES. If climate change could turn this planet hostile to human life, human life would have been extinct thousands of years ago. And as far as your sob story about sea life goes, we were told back in 1988 that if we didn't do something right away, every living creature in the water would die. Well, here we are, almost 30 years later and everything's fine. First, we're headed for and ice age, now we're headed for a meltdown. When are you people going to give the hell up?

North Pole Melting Leaves Small Lake At The Top Of The World (VIDEO)

Please tell me again how the ice is not melting..... If you don't like Huff, there are hundred of other news outlets around the world that have documented this.

Melt down comes first. This disrupts the ocean currents. Ocean currents transfer heat from the Equator around the world. If the fresh/salt water falls too far out of balance the currents will slow and some will stop all together. This is when the freezing comes due to the lack of heat transference from the oceans.

Not saying the human race would go extinct. Given our current level of technology, and certain developing sciences, we could shelter and feed a small portion of the human race. We, as a race, would survive. Life would continue, but our world would be unrecognizable.

Though I am replying to your post, I am not talking to you exactly. Feel free to respond, but you are not the audience for this type of comment. You have made up your mind. As long as all is well with you personally, then surely nothing is wrong. If you smoke your whole life and never get diagnosed with cancer, then clearly smoking has nothing to do with lung or throat cancer. There is no reason to talk to someone with this mind set, but if there is an off chance that a rational person might be listening it's still an exercise worth engaging in.

 

[tobymerwin]

North Pole Melting Leaves Small Lake At The Top Of The World (VIDEO)

Please tell me again how the ice is not melting..... If you don't like Huff, there are hundred of other news outlets around the world that have documented this.

Melt down comes first. This disrupts the ocean currents. Ocean currents transfer heat from the Equator around the world. If the fresh/salt water falls too far out of balance the currents will slow and some will stop all together. This is when the freezing comes due to the lack of heat transference from the oceans.

Not saying the human race would go extinct. Given our current level of technology, and certain developing sciences, we could shelter and feed a small portion of the human race. We, as a race, would survive. Life would continue, but our world would be unrecognizable.

Though I am replying to your post, I am not talking to you exactly. Feel free to respond, but you are not the audience for this type of comment. You have made up your mind. As long as all is well with you personally, then surely nothing is wrong. If you smoke your whole life and never get diagnosed with cancer, then clearly smoking has nothing to do with lung or throat cancer. There is no reason to talk to someone with this mind set, but if there is an off chance that a rational person might be listening it's still an exercise worth engaging in.

In other words, if there are still people out there to persuade, brainwash and turn into anti-capitalists (young people who don't know any better), you're the man for the job.

 

[Fuzzy_]

In other words, if there are still people out there to persuade, brainwash and turn into anti-capitalists (young people who don't know any better), you're the man for the job.

Capitalism didn't exist before gasoline. The free market needed a bit of help.

 

[ConanTheBarber]

THE ICE CAPS ARE NOT MELTING! ICE IS NOT MELTING! NOT AT THE NORTH POLE OR THE SOUTH POLE. YOUR "SCIENCE" IS BEING FED TO YOU BY THE POLITICAL APPOINTEES OF THE IPCC, MANY OF WHOM RESIGNED BECAUSE THEY'RE FED UP WITH THE LIES.

The IPCC happens to agree with virtually every scientific organization in the world.
If you have information about resignations from the IPCC for the reasons you stated, please give links to prove them. And remember, you said "many," which implies a significant number of the 195 members.

If climate change could turn this planet hostile to human life, human life would have been extinct thousands of years ago.

Nonsense. Climate change has occurred before, but it's the rate of change that is creating problems -- and the current rate far exceeds anything that has occurred before.

And as far as your sob story about sea life goes, we were told back in 1988 that if we didn't do something right away, every living creature in the water would die. Well, here we are, almost 30 years later and everything's fine.

What's fine in the oceans?
Acidification is continuing apace -- and that IS going to create great problems.

Many problems are the result of overfishing.
A third of global fisheries are overexploited, depleted, or recovering from depletion.
Many fish populations are threatened with extinction.
All species fished for food are considered likely to be fished out by mid-century if great changes are not made in our fishing practices.

First, we're headed for and ice age, now we're headed for a meltdown. When are you people going to give the hell up?

A small number of scientists were predicting cooling 40 years ago ... but that view never got within spitting distance of a consensus. Only a few scientists were expressing these (now universally disavowed) notions.
On the other hand, the view that human activities are causing a disastrous level of global warming is now held by so many active climate scientists that it presents the closest thing to a consensus that you will ever find in science.

 

[slurper_la]

The IPCC happens to agree with virtually every scientific organization in the world.
If you have information about resignations from the IPCC for the reasons you stated, please give links to prove them. And remember, you said "many," which implies a significant number of the 195 members.



Nonsense. Climate change has occurred before, but it's the rate of change that is creating problems -- and the current rate far exceeds anything that has occurred before.



What's fine in the oceans?
Acidification is continuing apace -- and that IS going to create great problems.

Many problems are the result of overfishing.
A third of global fisheries are overexploited, depleted, or recovering from depletion.
Many fish populations are threatened with extinction.
All species fished for food are considered likely to be fished out by mid-century if great changes are not made in our fishing practices.



A small number of scientists were predicting cooling 40 years ago ... but that view never got within spitting distance of a consensus. Only a few scientists were expressing these (now universally disavowed) notions.
On the other hand, the view that human activities are causing a disastrous level of global warming is now held by so many active climate scientists that it presents the closest thing to a consensus that you will ever find in science.

Don't you ever feel like you're wasting your time arguing with morons? They'll never see past the BS fed to them by their corporate masters through Faux News

Endangered Coral Reefs Die as Ocean Temperatures Rise and Water Turns Acidic

Threatened and Endangered Species - MarineBio.org

Endangered and Threatened Marine Species :: NOAA Fisheries

Watch 27 years of 'old' Arctic ice melt away in seconds | Environment | The Guardian

http://t.space.com/all/26983-nasa-arise-mission-arctic-ice-video#1

 

[Fuzzy_]

Don't you ever feel like you're wasting your time arguing with morons? They'll never see past the BS fed to them by their corporate masters through Faux News

Don't you get it, slurper? Their opinions are more reliable than scientific measurements. Thermometers lie.