"God Hates Fags!"

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Dorset said:
With regards to sticking your head in the sand, I kind of agree with you but they do have every right to hold their beliefs, they may well sound stupid to you or me but we can't tell people what to think
Agreed, everyone has the right to hold their beliefs, no matter how baseless or repugnant. What they do NOT have the right to do is enforce those beliefs upon others, or to actualize physical violence against another person based on those beliefs. Example: It's a person's right to believe "I hate homosexuals, I think they should all be dead." It is NOT a person's right to go out and kill someone because of the aforementioned belief... Example: It's a person's right to believe "Same-gender marriage is wrong, so I will not marry another person of my own gender." It is not a person's right to attempt to prevent me from marrying the person of my choice.

For what it is worth, many religious denominations do tell people what to think... not all, but many.
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Oh yeah, you're from the US, maybe you should lock them up just outside the US border and hold them there without access to a phone or legal support

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Yes, I'm from the US... and from my point of view, the only ones who should be locked up outside the US border without access to a phone or legal support are the US officials who have sanctioned this sort of behavior... starting with the current "commander in chief".
 

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Sorcerer said:
I thought about that. Which would be better:

a) a live drag show
or
b) a bunch of us holding hands and singing "we shall overcome"

A!!!! B is played out.

When Phelps-types would picket Gay Pride marches in the cities where I've lived, we would dress up as "church ladies" with ridiculous signs and stand with them as if we were part of their protest. HYSTERICAL!!! A couple times it even took them awhile to figure out we were parodying them.
 

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Matthew said:
A!!!! B is played out.

When Phelps-types would picket Gay Pride marches in the cities where I've lived, we would dress up as "church ladies" with ridiculous signs and stand with them as if we were part of their protest. HYSTERICAL!!! A couple times it even took them awhile to figure out we were parodying them.
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Matthew!!! That is fucking awesome! I'll have to remember that one for when I move back to civilization.

At the very first pride parade I went to (in Las Vegas), there were two of these protesters - not from Phelps's church, but some "ex-gay ministry." After the parade, they protested the casinos on Freemont Street. At least they're "equal-opportunity" protesters. Well, evidently, one of them needed some more "therapy" because the next weekend, she was sighted at Freezone, one of the local gay bars.
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Matthew said:
A!!!! B is played out.

When Phelps-types would picket Gay Pride marches in the cities where I've lived, we would dress up as "church ladies" with ridiculous signs and stand with them as if we were part of their protest. HYSTERICAL!!! A couple times it even took them awhile to figure out we were parodying them.

For some reason I think BBB2.5 dressed up as say...Britney Spears (he's got the figure for it) performing "Oops, I Did It Again". He'd steal the show. We could have Lex, Jacinto and Madame Zora as his backup dancers...the first two with very baggy, thin sweat pants and no underwear doing a hip-bucking dance and Madame with thigh-high boots (5-inch heels of course), a leather thong and topless... and a cat-o-nine-tails. Yeah, that's it...heh heh.
 

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Sorcerer said:
http://www.godhatesfags.com/

I always check out Westboro Baptist Church's site when I need a good laugh. They're so out there. WBC plans to picket "the sodomite whorehouse masquerading as the city of Casper, Wyoming" to celebrate the 5th anniversiary of Matthew Shepard's "Entry into Hell".

As their agenda has widened over the years, they now hate pretty much everyone including the entire country of Sweden "God Hates Sweden" and many others...

Those of you who have been to Gay Pride (anywhere) have seen them with their signs:
20060130_indiana5.jpg


So do you find them incredibly funny, offensive or just don't give a shit?
Discuss.
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There was another thread that asked what you would like to do if you could get away with it.
Well,
I would like to stand right in front of the jerk pictured and put a bullet right between his eyes.
And, I'm a pretty non-violent person.
There is absolutely no hope for these assholes who practice hatred in the name of religion.
And, because I'm an atheist, I don't even get the satisfaction of believing that they will be punished in the "hereafter".
 

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Sorcerer said:
For some reason I think BBB2.5 dressed up as say...Britney Spears (he's got the figure for it) performing "Oops, I Did It Again". He'd steal the show. We could have Lex, Jacinto and Madame Zora as his backup dancers...the first two with very baggy, thin sweat pants and no underwear doing a hip-bucking dance and Madame with thigh-high boots (5-inch heels of course), a leather thong and topless... and a cat-o-nine-tails. Yeah, that's it...heh heh.

Sorcerer, how many times have I told you to get out of my closet?

Haha, you nailed it with BBB2.5 as Brittney, although I'm sure he'd look a LOT hotter.
 

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Fred Phelps. Geez, does anyone actually pay attention to him any more? All except for one of his congregation members are related to him by blood or marriage. Even homophobe Jerry Falwell refers to Phelps as a "first-class nut". Personally, I see nothing "first-class" about the man. Three of his thirteen children have left his congregation, and his family. They have told about the physical abuse heaped upon them by their father while they were children. Has anyone seen Fred and his children on talk shows? They only succeed in making themselves look foolish. They spend more time saying, "shut up, you fag," to other guests than they do speaking during the time allotted them to tell their views. Fred actually quotes the Bible saying "throw the fagots upon the fire" and claims that it justifies gay-bashing! Can anyone actually be that profoundly stupid? Apparently, his stupidity is somewhat of an act: he was smart enough to pass the bar. He was, of all things, a civil rights attorney! However, he is no longer a lawyer. He was disbarred in the late Seventies. I don't see the Westboro Baptist Church outliving Phelps by long. I cannot presume to judge Phelps: it's not my place. However, if I were Fred Phelps and believed in God as fervently as he claims to, I would be nervous as hell knowing that I would someday have to stand under the judgment of God.
 

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But that's the thing, Jacinto. These kinds of whackos think they are invulnerable to judgement just because they CLAIM to be speaking the word of God. Much like our current politicos, they feel that just saying the words is enough to protect them. I really hate the way religion has been corruptly presented as a "get out of jail free" card.
 

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Dr Rock said:
if there be such a being
then thou art anti-christ
turn men against their children
turn beauty into vice
I say thy god shall smite thee
he will perceive they lust
his wrath shall fall upon thee
thou that betray his trust

That is, without a doubt, the most beautiful thing I've ever read from you Dr. Rock. - and I'm not being sarcastic. Who wrote it?
 

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I can't remember where I heard this, but it fits with the title of this thread (paraphrased):

God doesn't really hate gays. If you remember, women's punishment for eating that stupid apple was menstruation and the pain of child birth. Men's punishment was to put up with women's bitching about her punishments. So gays found the loophole in the system: by eliminating women from the equation. What a resourceful bunch.
 

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Sorcerer said:
http://www.godhatesfags.com/

I always check out Westboro Baptist Church's site when I need a good laugh. They're so out there. WBC plans to picket "the sodomite whorehouse masquerading as the city of Casper, Wyoming" to celebrate the 5th anniversiary of Matthew Shepard's "Entry into Hell".

As their agenda has widened over the years, they now hate pretty much everyone including the entire country of Sweden "God Hates Sweden" and many others...

Those of you who have been to Gay Pride (anywhere) have seen them with their signs:
20060130_indiana5.jpg


So do you find them incredibly funny, offensive or just don't give a shit? Discuss.
People like this strike me as Nazis with Bibles and American Flags. It'll be interesting to see if this country goes the way of the Weimar Republic in Germany (1919-1933). We already have Paul von Hindenburg in the White House.

At least we don't have private political armies fighting it out in the streets yet, they way they were fond of doing in Berlin and other German cities during the Roaring 20s.

But we are in a culture war. We must be. Patrick Buchannan declared it. And a lot of people have taken up the cause.

And shots have been traded at abortion clinics.

I don't like the look of it, that's all.
 

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DoubleMeatWhopper said:
Fred Phelps. Geez, does anyone actually pay attention to him any more? .
Ah, but there's the sad part of it, DMW. You are assuming that the entire population has at least a tenth part of your intelligence. Unfortunately, they do not. The general population is pretty damned stupid, and there are more than enough willing sheep out there to pay at least some attention to the nutjobs. For every hate-mongering sermon phelps preaches, I don't doubt that there will be one poor impressionable soul who is convinced and starts to believe it is ok to kill other humans indiscriminately.
 

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MichaelSF3352 said:
People like this strike me as Nazis with Bibles and American Flags. It'll be interesting to see if this country goes the way of the Weimar Republic in Germany (1919-1933). We already have Paul von Hindenburg in the White House. But we are in a culture war. We must be. Patrick Buchannan declared it. And a lot of people have taken up the cause. And shots have been traded at abortion clinics. I don't like the look of it, that's all.
Michael, what you've said is heresy. Modern USA like the Third Reich? The Nazis were the embodiment of evil, and we're good and benevolent and peace-loving. Unthinkable.

Problem is, the people of the Weimar Republic--cultured and refined, heirs to the great German philosophers like Nietzsche, theologians like Luther, and virtual inventors of modern music in Mozart and Beethoven--didn't think Germany would ever become like the Third Reich, either.

They had a distaste for the leftist Communists (like so many Americans have a distaste for leftist Liberals) and while they didn't agree with the right wing nutcases, at least they gave some prominent handouts and made the trains run on time: so the electorate danced with the devil. So did German industry, who found the Nazi war machine profitable. Control of the media and harassment of dissenters made the grip tighter. Democracy disappeared. By the time You-Know-What happened, it was too late.

The parallels are disturbing. Phelps & Co are the tip of a pretty scary iceberg. Right now, God hates fags. And He seems to have moved on to Catholics. And Swedes. Pretty soon it will be Jews, atheists and freethinkers. And then he'll hate you, whomever you are, for something he'll think up shortly.

When our trains start running on time, be afraid.
 

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DC_DEEP said:
For every hate-mongering sermon phelps preaches, I don't doubt that there will be one poor impressionable soul who is convinced and starts to believe it is ok to kill other humans indiscriminately.
And can buy a gun at his local discount department store.