Goodbye to my friends here!

[D_N Flay Table]

Dont let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[marleyisalegend]

GREAT post Danny.

 

[Xcuze]

LPSG has transcended "shallow". It's just dumb now. As in dumbass.ere.

Just as a Big cock site should be...

 

[B_starinvestor]

If you consider "intelligent" to be shrill, run-on sentences, absolutely zero concession to logical debate, and the consistent use of the word "thingy" to complete his thought in his retorts.

You are not far off the "shrill" mark either, star. Using an obvious liberal-minded porn site to deliver neocon pontifications. Then, when marginalized, you lash out.

Yay.

Maybe you and big1 should make some friends with gay folk - we've been marginalized for years, and can give you some tips on coping with it.

Ah, but wait a minute - supposedly, big1 is already gay...




This place used to be fun. The politics - in both the moderation issues, and what passes as debate in the politics forums (which obviously spills into other forums and skews attitudes), have been the ruination of it all. The idiosyncrasy of this place in years past was its depth, in the face of being a porn site in the first place.

LPSG has transcended "shallow". It's just dumb now. As in dumbass.ere.

Well, the curious thing about this website is that I originally joined because I stumbled upon a link from another porn site and surely expected very little other than sextalk. I became quite intrigued once the politics forum was conceived earlier this year at the knowledge and intellect inherent from a site in which I never would have expected it.

To that end, I've gleaned perspectives from a number of groups that I had never really been privy to....and at the end of the day, I've become in some ways more open-minded than I may have thought.

While I very much appreciate many things about this site, I find it perplexing that folks will post about seeing their father/brother/sister/mother/son/cousin naked and enjoying some kind of twisted sexual fantasy....and those posts are...

and yet someone like 1bigg1 can make political posts and is somehow portrayed as some type of lunatic troll...his original threads may offend liberals, yet if you read his follow-up posts he is anything but unintelligent and uninformed.

If you don't like the thread, ignore it. I'm fairly sure that those that follow politics and create political controversy are far less dangerous to this cyberworld than those that post about sexual fantasies with family members.

If Trinity or 1bigg1 seem dangerous to you, cruise through a few of the other threads in which members are denegrated, insulted, humiliated and attacked.

 

[dannymawg]

If you don't like the thread, ignore it.

Precisely why I never posted in the politics forum.

I'm not one to stick my head in the sand and claim "ignorance is bliss", which might be seen as to why I haven't posted - on the contrary, I'm full of opinion :biggrin1: - but c'mon, star. You can put together a coherent post. So can mindseye. But you are outnumbered by the amount of people who disagree with the "intelligent" tag for big1. Your own posts prove this in the sourcing (when available) - they might have been from conservative sources, but at least they were credible conservative sources, where big1's were from obvious first-page Google searches that fit his agenda.

Speaking of agendas, your statement here:

Further, I trust that you can appreciate that conservatives have been attacked, scorned, humiliated and ridiculed by liberals courtesy of the Bush Admin for years, and even moreso over the past few months. If some of us on the conservative side of the aisle are more prone to retaliate in certain circumstances, I believe it is a well-earned right to question the incoming Administration.

...proves that you (and big1) have some sort of an agenda. To prove you are the vanguards of marginalized LPSG conservatism. (And I'll bare my heavily guarded opinion here by saying "pfft - grow a pair, buddy") :tongue:

It's just that big1 didn't do a good job making his agenda coherent. Blatantly realized by the degeneration of virtually every thread he started.

By all rights of free speech, you have the right to make your agenda vocal. But in light of the privately-owned nature of LPSG, and the seriously complex nature of the implementation of moderation here - back in the day, LPSG was largely self-moderated and there would have been plenty of members here that would have torn you and big1 new, raw assholes - it's hard to fathom how either one of you could expect rational treatment in these times, on this forum.

I concur fully with your take on the various wacked out threads, which also speaks to complex moderation issues. I don't envy any of the mods in the slightest.

But I don't agree, by taking the liberty of speaking for the silent majority of us that read but don't post often, that the consistent braying about "unfairness to conservatives" is worthwhile to the audience here.



Not saying we should all agree on every topic and pat each other on the back. Not saying that you guys should shut up or be unfairly censored. Just saying that you better fuckin step up your game if yer gonna do it here. big1 failed at that, and the sheer number of views in watching his trainwreck should be enough proof.

 

[B_starinvestor]

Precisely why I never posted in the politics forum.

I'm not one to stick my head in the sand and claim "ignorance is bliss", which might be seen as to why I haven't posted - on the contrary, I'm full of opinion :biggrin1: - but c'mon, star. You can put together a coherent post. So can mindseye. But you are outnumbered by the amount of people who disagree with the "intelligent" tag for big1. Your own posts prove this in the sourcing (when available) - they might have been from conservative sources, but at least they were credible conservative sources, where big1's were from obvious first-page Google searches that fit his agenda.

Speaking of agendas, your statement here:



...proves that you (and big1) have some sort of an agenda. To prove you are the vanguards of marginalized LPSG conservatism. (And I'll bare my heavily guarded opinion here by saying "pfft - grow a pair, buddy") :tongue:

It's just that big1 didn't do a good job making his agenda coherent. Blatantly realized by the degeneration of virtually every thread he started.

By all rights of free speech, you have the right to make your agenda vocal. But in light of the privately-owned nature of LPSG, and the seriously complex nature of the implementation of moderation here - back in the day, LPSG was largely self-moderated and there would have been plenty of members here that would have torn you and big1 new, raw assholes - it's hard to fathom how either one of you could expect rational treatment in these times, on this forum.

I concur fully with your take on the various wacked out threads, which also speaks to complex moderation issues. I don't envy any of the mods in the slightest.

But I don't agree, by taking the liberty of speaking for the silent majority of us that read but don't post often, that the consistent braying about "unfairness to conservatives" is worthwhile to the audience here.



Not saying we should all agree on every topic and pat each other on the back. Not saying that you guys should shut up or be unfairly censored. Just saying that you better fuckin step up your game if yer gonna do it here. big1 failed at that, and the sheer number of views in watching his trainwreck should be enough proof.

Your thoughts are appreciated and understood. Yet I feel your sentiments are disorganized when you suggest that I have an agenda without conceding that liberals in the same forum do not. C'mon, Danny.

I surely don't expect any 'rational treatment' from liberals, and that is something that inspires my activity in the Politics forum. The debating and volley of intellect is enjoyable and pleasurable, in my opinion. Indeed, it is a break from more 'non-cyber' unpleasant endeavors.

To each his own. If 1bigg1 was wreaking havoc on members, and the members have spoken, then so be it. To me, he introduced debate and entertainment. There are countless liberal posters that are, at best, annoying. Yet, I still find pleasure in engaging each and every one in debate - whether it be intellectual research, or simply battling wits.

 

[dannymawg]

...I feel your sentiments are disorganized when you suggest that I have an agenda without conceding that liberals in the same forum do not. C'mon, Danny.

Disorganized? Or conveniently set aside? Deliberately left out, maybe? :tongue:

Yet, I still find pleasure in engaging each and every one in debate - whether it be intellectual research, or simply battling wits.

It is poor sport to engage in a battle of wits with unarmed men :biggrin1:

That quote alone might explain my reticence to post here as of late.

That, and having tangible facts in front of my face - those enough to trust - to back up anything I might say. Because everything on the internet is true!

 

[ZOS23xy]

I surely don't expect any 'rational treatment' from liberals, and that is something that inspires my activity in the Politics forum. The debating and volley of intellect is enjoyable and pleasurable, in my opinion. Indeed, it is a break from more 'non-cyber' unpleasant endeavors.

You won't get a rational treatment if you post nonsense. That's been demonstrated to you on a few postings and threads you started and abandoned because you couldn't come up with the answers.

 

[B_starinvestor]

You won't get a rational treatment if you post nonsense. That's been demonstrated to you on a few postings and threads you started and abandoned because you couldn't come up with the answers.

Funny you say that. I'm the only one that gives answers. I give you answers and you retort with requests for calculus or algebraic equations. You can't admit defeat, and you move on.

At times, some of you can keep up. But when you are proven wrong, you simply leave and name-call. When you challenge the conservatives on issues such as finance, business, taxes, you are simply out of your league. Period. You have your strengths, and we have ours. Wake up.

 

[deleted15807]

Funny you say that. I'm the only one that gives answers. I give you answers and you retort with requests for calculus or algebraic equations. You can't admit defeat, and you move on.

At times, some of you can keep up. But when you are proven wrong, you simply leave and name-call. When you challenge the conservatives on issues such as finance, business, taxes, you are simply out of your league. Period. You have your strengths, and we have ours. Wake up.

:bsflag::bsflag::bsflag::bsflag::bsflag::bsflag::bsflag::bsflag::bsflag::bsflag:

 

[Qua]

^Well, that proved a lot. Wanna dispute free market economics? Without the idiotic name-calling, spoon-fed democratic party lines, refusal to concede any point or deviate from any agenda other than villifying conservatives and Republicans? Or maybe listen to those who oppose you, rather than instantly throwing them on ignore if they suggest you aren't "liberal" at all, but merely a left-wing puppet of equal demerit as any neocon troll? And all in the thread where your neocon analogue is leaving, too.

 

[ZOS23xy]

Funny you say that. I'm the only one that gives answers. I give you answers and you retort with requests for calculus or algebraic equations. You can't admit defeat, and you move on.

At times, some of you can keep up. But when you are proven wrong, you simply leave and name-call. When you challenge the conservatives on issues such as finance, business, taxes, you are simply out of your league. Period. You have your strengths, and we have ours. Wake up.

Didn't you write "Slavery is a liberal idea"?

 

[ZOS23xy]

^Well, that proved a lot. Wanna dispute free market economics? Without the idiotic name-calling, spoon-fed democratic party lines, refusal to concede any point or deviate from any agenda other than villifying conservatives and Republicans? Or maybe listen to those who oppose you, rather than instantly throwing them on ignore if they suggest you aren't "liberal" at all, but merely a left-wing puppet of equal demerit as any neocon troll? And all in the thread where your neocon analogue is leaving, too.

This is was in reference to StarInvestor's thread about his being able to challenge anyone on any anti Bush comment. He abandoned it because he couldn't keep up with finding answers to put a positive spin on asked questions.

I think StarInvestor is a young man who is just barely out of high school.

 

[Florida Boy]

For some reason, I'm intrigued by this. In a nutshell, what was the issue?

 

[ledroit]

For some reason, I'm intrigued by this. In a nutshell, what was the issue?

Identity politics.

Here's how it works: First you brand someone. Then you give yourself license to attack them because you hate the brand. You do this to make yourself look good or feel good.

The reason this is at odds with the ethos of LPSG is that it violates a foundational principle that is the starting point of all ethics: You can't use other people. This means you can't use them to make yourself look good or feel good.

If you do that, you violate the conditions that make communication and interaction possible.

That's my nutshell version.

 

[Qua]

This is was in reference to StarInvestor's thread about his being able to challenge anyone on any anti Bush comment. He abandoned it because he couldn't keep up with finding answers to put a positive spin on asked questions.

Point taken. However, it's still a typical Sargon retort, as characterized by my above rant.

 

[ZOS23xy]

For some reason, I'm intrigued by this. In a nutshell, what was the issue?

Some guy named 1BiGG1, has left the boards after a rough period of "hard sell" Republican drift. A political crank. Lots of people disagreed with him. Me too.

 

[B_starinvestor]

This is was in reference to StarInvestor's thread about his being able to challenge anyone on any anti Bush comment. He abandoned it because he couldn't keep up with finding answers to put a positive spin on asked questions.

I think StarInvestor is a young man who is just barely out of high school.

That is not true; I did not abandon that thread.

 

[B_starinvestor]

This is was in reference to StarInvestor's thread about his being able to challenge anyone on any anti Bush comment. He abandoned it because he couldn't keep up with finding answers to put a positive spin on asked questions.

I think StarInvestor is a young man who is just barely out of high school.

to jog your memory and disprove your fantasy:


Liberating the Iraqi people
Kept our nation safe from terror attacks on our soil after 9/11
Defeated Al-Queda
Defeated Saddam Hussein
Implemented education infrastructure in Iraq
Constructed hospitals in Iraq
Rallied U.S. people after 9/11
Education Accountability Law
Medicare prescription drug benefit
Established democracy and friendly gov't in the heart of the Middle East
Huge foreign aid to Africa
Programs to combat AIDS
Alliance with India
Reduced taxes
Increased government revenues very year since 2003

 

[B_Nick4444]

how many non-liberal gays left here, I wonder?