GOP congressman calls Obamas `uppity'

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    Georgia GOP congressman calls Obamas `uppity'
    By BEN EVANS, Associated Press Writer
    Friday, September 5, 2008
    (09-05) 10:51 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) --

    Democrats are calling on a Republican congressman from Georgia to apologize for referring to Barack and Michelle Obama as "uppity," but the lawmaker stood by his comments and said he meant no offense.

    Speaking to reporters Thursday, Rep. Lynn Westmoreland of Grantville, Ga., described the Obamas as members of an "elitist-class ... that thinks that they're uppity," according to The Hill, a Capitol Hill newspaper.

    Asked to clarify whether he intended to use the word, he said, "Yeah, uppity."

    In a statement Friday, Westmoreland — a white man who was born in 1950 and raised in the segregated South — said he didn't know that "uppity" was commonly used as a derogatory term for blacks seeking equal treatment. Instead, he referred to the dictionary definition of the word as describing someone who is haughty, snobbish or has inflated self-esteem.

    "He stands by that characterization and thinks it accurately describes the Democratic nominee," said Brian Robinson, Westmoreland's spokesman. "He was unaware that the word had racial overtones and he had absolutely no intention of using a word that can be considered offensive."

    The Obama campaign had no immediate response. But the head of the Georgia Democratic Party called on Westmoreland to apologize, saying his comments were "more of the same, tired old politics that are dividing this country."

    "The fact is, political attacks like this don't lower gas prices one cent, they don't give one more American access to affordable health care, and they don't get one more Georgian a job that pays the mortgage," Jane Kidd said. "Lynn Westmoreland should be ashamed of himself."

    Westmoreland is one of the most conservative members of Congress. He has drawn criticism from civil rights advocates on a number of issues, including last year when he led opposition to renewing the 1965 Voting Rights Act. He also was one of two House members last year who opposed giving the Justice Department more money to crack unsolved civil rights killings.

    Rep. Lynn Westmoreland is the type of narrow-minded bigot that gives all southerners a bad name. He knows damn well "uppity" is an insult. :12: He didn't apologize because he meant what he said and he said what he meant.

    FWIW - I don't want people that think like him in the White House. That's just one of many reasons why I don't vote Republican. :cool:

     
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    Obvioiusly that guy's a big-time asshole, but I don't think most Republicans "think like him" -- at least I'm confident that John McCain doesn't.

    But I have to say I don't get this meme that "Obama is elitist" at all. I think Hillary's campaign made it up and the media just ran with it.

    If you actually watch the campaign -- which I have done extensively -- Obama is the most down-to-earth person in my lifetime to receive a major party's nomination for president. With Bill Clinton, who is a distant second in that regard, I felt that he was probably a regular guy before he went to an Ivy League law school and discovered the world was at his feet. Obama somehow went to and Ivy League law school, discovered the world was at his feet and remained a regular guy.
     
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    This is the same guy Colbert interviewed- who was in favor of the ten commandments being put in the House of Representatives...

    And when asked, he could not recite more than 3 of the ten commandments.

    Colbert's comment after reporting the "uppity" comment?
    "man, that is one stupid cracker."
     
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    could have been worse... could have said, "no comments from the peanut [aka "Colored"] gallary/section." he is uppity btw.
     
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    Oh, and to clarify:

    Obama is half Kenyan and half white. His Kenyan father came here long after Jim Crow. Kenya is on the east side of the African continent. His father's people are more guilty of atrocities than any white man in the free world.

    History. Learn it. Kenyans do not associate themselves with either slavery or "African Americans." Ironic, considering that Kenyans in America [like my girlfriend] really are African American.
     
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    well, i am sure he knows there is a racial "connotation" to it, but let's face it, the word is in the dictionary, and it is pretty clearly stated that it has no meaning relating to black people (or any people in general) as defined.

    the fact that some racist people began to refer to "uppity negroes" also does not change the fact that when i was younger, near my grandparents home in a straightlaced country area, that some very "unsavory" (by that i mean, loud, obnoxious, nouveau riche, rather vile and totally out of place in this particular area) neighbors moved it, and in this area of more stately and low key country homes, built in a classic country style, these folks built this glaring, vile, "look at us" type of home, that was just so tacky (not quite as tacky as its inhabitants)...virtually everyone in this small town couldn't stand them, and they were not black, but actually armenian (not normal armenian though...think Armenian from "Night at the Roxbury")

    I heard at least three different neighbors refer to them as "uppity".

    frankly it is more of a class insult than a racial one, but there are people over the years who have used it to refer to all folks, not just black ones.
    Any imagined racial slight from it, is just that...imagined. It has no racial connotation in its definition, whatsoever...if people were called "uppity" in the past, they were offended by the class aspect of being insulted...but it seems that when blacks were called "uppity" in the past they took it to mean a racial insult...as such, any time uppity is used in conjunction with a black person, it is a "racial insult", when really, it is a class insult.

    *Taking liberties or assuming airs beyond one's station; presumptuous; presumptuously arrogant; Characteristic of or resembling a snob:*
     
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    I imagine the name calling and lieing and all things politically nasty have only begun.

    We in Canada are about to go into an election too. Thankfully ours only last slightly more than a month.
     
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    Dude, good try. But, come on. I guess if you if want to completely dismiss the colloquial aspect of the term and its usage, and stick with the Webster's....*

    But, come on.

    Perhaps you've never lived in the South (or....been to the South). Referring to a black guy as "uppity" has one and only one connotation.

    And it's not about class. (Although, most black folks have traditionally come from the lower classes, but that is a purely peripheral aspect of the "diss".)

    I repeat. Dude, come on.


    * Which would be odd (i.e., disingenuous in the extreme), since there is almost no usage of the term any more, BUT FOR the colloquial usage.
     
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    I saw that too and that guy is a complete and utter MORON! He literally has no intelligence, Colbert was right on the money.
     
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    as a jew i have heard "uppity jews" mentioned numerous times, in my presence...generally, the people who use the word "uppity" in relation to other people, who they wish to look down upon, are, in the very definition of the word, the "uppity" ones.

    I could care less about if someone called me it, as a jew...the problem, is that for all the legitimate claims of racism that the black community has a very real, obvious and viable claim to make, the co-opting of a single word that may in fact relate in any way, no matter how small or how marginal to some element of the unfortunate history of blacks in america takes on an absurd tone.
     
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    Just in case anybody doesn't know...

    Uppity n****r is a derogatory phrase uttered by white Southerners targeted at Black folk who don't seem to know their "place" in Southern society.

    That fucking racist bastard knows good and well what the phrase means and he is sending it out in code to all of the other white racists in the South.

    If anyone uses the phrase as an insult to any other ethnic group, they are just borrowing the language of Southern racism and it's original context is still intact when doing so.
     
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    Your name is "Tripod." Give it up. I shouldn't have to educated idealistic libs at my age. Grow up. It's 1984 all over again. Black people are not black...they are "people of color." How 'bout old chicken hawk pedophiles? They have an alternative lifestyle. Watch your young porn. Good for you. Vote for a loser and then whine. You will never witness a person with your "values" run this country...thank God.

    Uppity n****r is a derogatory phrase uttered by white Southerners targeted at Black folk who don't seem to know their "place" in Southern society.

    That fucking racist bastard knows good and well what the phrase means and he is sending it out in code to all of the other white racists in the South.

    If anyone uses the phrase as an insult to any other ethnic group, they are just borrowing the language of Southern racism and it's original context is still intact when doing so.[/quote]
     
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    I think{for what it's worth}, that is exactly the description that was intended by this Congressman.That Term is one that i have been aware of since i was a child{i'm 46} as a derogatory term,that used as a insult towards a Black man would rightfully get you and your mouth beat to a pulp! As i go through life as an American and still bear witness to racial hatred in all walks of life, i can only shake my head in disbelief and completely understand the rest of the world's complete and utter disdain for us as a nation. To quote BLACK SABBATH: "IF You listen to fools, the mob rules." But don't listen to me, it's the guy with the spittle frothing and flying out his mouth as he's exclaims Loud enough to drown out any voice of reason around himself "Were still the best GODDAMN country in the world, and if you don't like it, get the fuck out!!", who really knows where it's at. Just ask him.
     
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    Would you all say Obama is a "down to earth" type of guy?
     
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    He knows how many houses he owns.
     
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    #16 B_phe1249, Sep 7, 2008
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    He then added, "Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry -- I meant my Saltine!", and took one out of a pack to show to the audience. :biggrin:
     
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    Down to earth? I would certainly say that GWB has been, in the way an ostrich is. They both are noted for well and truly Hiding there head's in the sand.That would seem "down to earth" to me.But if i miss the point, please offer up how that is a qualification of sort's. I'm not sure i understand.
     
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    My question was do you think Obama is a "down to earth" type? That would be the oppisite of uppity.
     
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    To compare a common turn of phrase with a racist one has disqualified YOU from further consideration from me. Have a nice day.
     
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