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One would think that after Phil Robertson's incredibly insensitive remarks about gays and African Americans that the GOP would distance themselves as A&E did but no the response is to embrace Phil Robertson. It should be obvious by now you can't win just focusing on evangelicals and you will turn off more voters than you turn on by embracing such extreme positions. So when Election Day 2016 rolls around and gays and African-Americans and all others turned off by the religious dogma don't vote GOP they truly cannot understand why.

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R), a likely White House contender whose state is home to the show about a family that runs a duck-hunting gear enterprise, called Robertson and his family “great citizens.”

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), another probable 2016 candidate, chimed in on Facebook, writing: “If you believe in free speech or religious liberty, you should be deeply dismayed over the treatment of Phil Robertson.”

And 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin wrote in a Facebook post that “those ‘intolerants’ hatin’ and taking on the Duck Dynasty patriarch for voicing his personal opinion are taking on all of us.”

GOP hopefuls woo evangelicals by rushing to defend suspended reality-show star Phil Robertson
 
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If Phil Robertson is free to voice his opinion, are viewers free to protest against it and boycott his show? Is A&E free to decide whether they want to give the man air time on their network?

Whose rights are in question here?
 

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What did A& E expect. You put a Bible thumping backwoods moron on Tv, you are going to get a Bible thumping moron. All the reality shows are base on glorifying dissfunction. What has not been emphasize from the GQ interview is the preposteous statement that blacks were happy during segregation. They wus just in da fields singin spirituals and bein happy. Of course what wasn't said was that if they did anything 'uppity' they would be beaten or lynched or burned out. That was the time that ,while slavery was outlawed, a black man could be charged with any crime, sentenced to a year, and them sold by the jailer to a farmer as an indentured slave and would be charge with escaping jail if he left. this continued into the 60's. But they was happy!
 
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If Phil Robertson is free to voice his opinion, are viewers free to protest against it and boycott his show? Is A&E free to decide whether they want to give the man air time on their network?

Whose rights are in question here?

Yes, yes and yes. I'm not questioning anyone's rights. I'm questioning the political wisdom of throwing your support behind someone that equates homosexuality with bestiality and someone who has a fairy tale view of slavery as being not so bad for African Americans. And then on Election Day + 1 questioning why you lost the gay vote and the African American vote. AND knowing you cannot win on the evangelical vote alone.
 

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if it quacks like a redneck, talks like a redneck, shoots like a redneck, you can damn well bet your KKK robe it is a redneck.

You're such an ignorant cunt Cruz.

Feel free to ban me for this moderators, and let the absolute dipshits spew their hatred against large swatches of our country.

Peace. Love. Afro grease.
 

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If Phil Robertson is free to voice his opinion, are viewers free to protest against it and boycott his show? Is A&E free to decide whether they want to give the man air time on their network?

Whose rights are in question here?

In b4 my ban:

As we've seen in the past, it tends to be the Conservatives who take more issue with these controversies (a la Chik Fil A)

It wouldn't shock me to see the Robertson family walk their show right into another network, or for their ratings to drop noticeably if they keep Phil off the show.
 

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Yes, yes and yes. I'm not questioning anyone's rights. I'm questioning the political wisdom of throwing your support behind someone that equates homosexuality with bestiality and someone who has a fairy tale view of slavery as being not so bad for African Americans. And then on Election Day + 1 questioning why you lost the gay vote and the African American vote. AND knowing you cannot win on the evangelical vote alone.

Just to be clear, I wasn't challenging you, just offering my own critique of the GOP figures you quoted.
 
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Ugh, this makes me sick.

One of my fb friends linked to it with 'I'm with Phil.' Really - why? Cos he's an absolute twat?
 

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Feel free to ban me for this moderators, and let the absolute dipshits spew their hatred against large swatches of our country.

Peace. Love. Afro grease.

Don't get yourself banned, Eric. I typically disagree with you, sometimes strongly, but I don't see any value in your leaving.

After all, if you're not here, how will we save you? :wink:
 

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Don't get yourself banned, Eric. I typically disagree with you, sometimes strongly, but I don't see any value in your leaving.

After all, if you're not here, how will we save you? :wink:

I doubt it will be permanent, given my lack of a previous track record, but I'll gladly take a temporary ban.

Sadly, I know every reasonable mind here would agree with my assessment of Cruz via PM, which heartens me slightly...though it pains me know that there are many people like him in this world.

Though I do appreciate the genuine attempt to save my wayward soul!
 
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I doubt it will be permanent, given my lack of a previous track record, but I'll gladly take a temporary ban.

Sadly, I know every reasonable mind here would agree with my assessment of Cruz via PM, which heartens me slightly...though it pains me know that there are many people like him in this world.

Though I do appreciate the genuine attempt to save my wayward soul!

Is it worth a ban over an unthinking authoritarian Dem water carrier though? I doubt that he even believes most of his cheer leading tbh. Unlike some of the other drones here.
 

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Don't get yourself banned, Eric. I typically disagree with you, sometimes strongly, but I don't see any value in your leaving.

After all, if you're not here, how will we save you? :wink:


EDIT: (This is a revised version from my original comments re. Eric's post as quoted by Klingsor. Besides, it's Christmas.)

The only "dipshit" I'm aware of (in this instance) who spewed "their hatred against large swatches of our country" was Robertson, I think.



Regarding that "Peace. Love. Afro grease." comment... let's just say I find it "disappointing" to say the least. I expected better, even of Eric.
 
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I'm pretty indifferent about this whole situation. I don't side with Phil or A/E. You're entitled to speak your mind, your employer is entitled to take action based on your comments and viewers can watch what they like. Don't really see a bad party here as if sides need to be taken.

However, I disagree with OP in the sense that Republicans are going after the Evangelical vote in this case. More like the "people need to toughen the fuck up" vote. Phil not only called gay's sinners, but he also called me a sinner since I partake in casual sexual relations. One could make the argument he equated what I do with "beastiality". But of course, you don't see me going apeshit since most people such as myself don't have a mental breakdown and feel hatred over a difference in opinion.
 

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Holy hell, I don't recall any outrage when Tracy Morgan said he'd murder his son if he was gay.

That's some seriously obscene crap.
 
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What did A& E expect. You put a Bible thumping backwoods moron on Tv, you are going to get a Bible thumping moron. All the reality shows are base on glorifying dissfunction. What has not been emphasize from the GQ interview is the preposteous statement that blacks were happy during segregation. They wus just in da fields singin spirituals and bein happy. Of course what wasn't said was that if they did anything 'uppity' they would be beaten or lynched or burned out. That was the time that ,while slavery was outlawed, a black man could be charged with any crime, sentenced to a year, and them sold by the jailer to a farmer as an indentured slave and would be charge with escaping jail if he left. this continued into the 60's. But they was happy!

Oh exactly. Lost in the anti-gay remarks was this gem of a comment. Black folks weren't singing the blues but having a good ole time in dixie.

Again he's welcome to say anything he wants. However when elected leaders line up behind him they are in essence approving his views.


Regarding that "Peace. Love. Afro grease." comment... let's just say I find it "disappointing" to say the least. I expected better, even of Eric.

Seriously? You did? :confused: I'm always reminded of Archie Bunker during the unfortunate times his posts are quoted and I get to see what otherwise I would have been spared.
 
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Oh exactly. Lost in the anti-gay remarks was this gem of a comment. Black folks weren't singing the blues but having a good ole time in dixie.

Again he's welcome to say anything he wants. However when elected leaders line up behind him they are in essence approving his views.




Seriously? You did? :confused: I'm always reminded of Archie Bunker during the unfortunate times his posts are quoted and I get to see what otherwise I would have been spared.


Well hey, remember, that was the NICE version of what I originally had posted. Sometimes when people throw out blatantly stupid and race baited innuendo, one need add nothing further.

So you have to kinda "read between the lines" re. my (revised) reply. :rolleyes:
 
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I do have to wonder. This is not a live show: has A&E heard of editing?

It was the GQ Interview he did when he let it all fly. And yes I'm sure A&E would have loved to edit that out and keep the gravy train rollin.