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When to use "which" and when to use "that"?

"Put the marbles that are red over there."
"Put the marbles which are red over there."
 

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"One thing is for certain" versus "One thing is certain."
The meaning of these clauses seems much the same.

"Are you for real?" versus "Are you real."
Unlike the first example, the meaning of these clauses seems much different.

"For" seems to serve a very different purpose with these examples.
 
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Use of the noun "loan" in place of the verb "lend". For example, "Can you loan me $5?" instead of "Can you lend me $5?."

I'll just give you $5, no loan is necessary. Although, with the exchange rate...
 

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"One thing is for certain" versus "One thing is certain."
The meaning of these clauses seems much the same.
"Are you for real?" versus "Are you real."
Unlike the first example, the meaning of these clauses seems much different.

"For" seems to serve a very different purpose with these examples.
"And now for something completely different."
 
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"One thing is for certain" versus "One thing is certain."
The meaning of these clauses seems much the same.
"Are you for real?" versus "Are you real."
Unlike the first example, the meaning of these clauses seems much different.

"For" seems to serve a very different purpose with these examples.

There is Santa Claus, and there are Santa Clauses. One I spose is "Ho Ho Ho". Or they can be multiple Santas known as the Clauses.
 
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When to use "which" and when to use "that"?

"Put the marbles that are red over there."
"Put the marbles which are red over there."

Using "that" seems more "natural" than "which", but, then I would just say: "Put the red marbles over there.", and avoid the controversy... ;)
 

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where to start?

"i could care less"

the use of irregardless

"where did you get that at?"

This comes up a lot: "I could care less." vs. "I couldn't care less."... I think when said, under most circumstances, the latter would have more impact.

"Where did you get that at?" seems redundant. Why add the "at"?

As for "irregardless"... Off to the The Chicago Manual of Style Online and Wikipedia for that one:

Wikipedia: "Irregardless is a word commonly used in place of regardless or irrespective, which has caused controversy since the early twentieth century, though the word appeared in print as early as 1795. Most dictionaries list it as "nonstandard" or "incorrect" usage, and recommend that "regardless" should be used instead...

According to the Oxford English Dictionary (OED), "Irregardless" was first acknowledged in 1912 by the Wentworth American Dialect Dictionary as originating from western Indiana, though the word was in use in South Carolina before Indiana became a territory. The usage dispute over "irregardless" was such that, in 1923, Literary Digest published an article titled "Is There Such a Word as Irregardless in the English Language?". The OED goes on to explain the word is primarily a North American colloquialism."

Oy vey!
 
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where to start?

"i could care less"

the use of irregardless

"where did you get that at?"

i have been listening carefully for this phrase over the past several months and here is my conclusion. At least regionally, "I could care less" is what is used in my Province. So I wonder if that makes any difference?

(I talk to people Provincially, a lot.)
 

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It irritates me when people use 'left' instead of 'let.' And vice versa.

"I left my hair grow out." "She left him go to the store by hisself."

"Quit messing with the stove and let it alone."
 

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What about use of the singular of the verb "to be" when plural is called for? "There is hundreds of examples." Even more often, "There's hundreds of examples." "There's" slips off the tongue more easily and seems to be favored in commercials. However, the usage is widespread. Should we overlook it as a sign of the times that we are progressing toward an uneducated populace? The use of "lay" in place of "lie" is so prevalent that I suspect it will become proper use.
 

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Should one order a large fry or a large fries?

It seems that if you order a large fry, they should give you a single french fry.