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Discussion in 'Politics' started by B_enzia35, Jan 2, 2012.
I liked it at least.
WOLF: In Obama he trusts - Washington Times
This wouldn't happen to be the same Dr. Wolf, cousin to Obama, who has been railing against Healthcare since its inception on the grounds that it (Healthcare) would allegedly prevent him from providing "the best care possible for [his] patients".. or would it be the Dr. Wolf, cousin to Obama, who has appeared as guest speaker before a number of Tea Party rallies, and once quoted as saying "sometimes you have to put family aside"?
Well at least he's got that last part right.
Please make a more convoluted point.
More right wing bullshit.
You try to be President with half the country attacking your every move from day 1 and see if you accomplish more than Obama. If the right had STFU and supported the President, as the left did with Bush in 2001, things would have been better. We are where we are because the right refuses to work with the left anymore. Plain and simple.
...exactly. I though my post spoke for itself. Thanks, Srdude, for spelling it out for him.
.........and an excellent reason to not only re-elect Obama, but give him BACK the Democratic Congress he had from 2008 to 2010. The list of accomplishments in THAT scenario was nothing less than "admirable!"
It's good that the right doesn't play the liberal's game all the time. They get backstabbed by the liars on the left.
If only they had more balls to fight the liberal agenda more readily.
So you're attacking the messenger now?:wink:
Who says it's an attack. I've only enumerated certain facts concerning Dr. Wolf.
An "attack" might have consisted of some allusion to wolves in sheep clothing, perhaps, or something of the kind.
You're trying to discredit the guy by saying that he's anti-Obama. That's not an attack?
This assumes there aren't liars on the right. What planet are you on?
Oh, Texas. Makes sense.
Tit for tat, the right is far worse at foul play. No question about it. Just because people don't share conservative ideology, that does not make them unAmerican, does not mean they are backward, and certainly doesn't mean they're all liars or want socialism.
Oh, and by the way, thank you for inadvertently agreeing that the mess we are in today is because the right isn't playing the game. Not that we didn't know that is what has happened, it is just good to hear a conservative admit the right has blocked economic progress.
Obama is the one, along with his party, who has increased the debt to 15 trillion over his current term. Obama is on the left/Democrat, no?
Sure does seem like progress.
Is this the FoxFauxFixed News misreprentation of the facts? It is the only way Republicans can win.
Obamas and Bushs effects on the deficit in one graph
Uh oh! People lie, numbers don't! Thank you, sargon20, displaying that graph because some people will believe any idiotic thing to reaffirm their ignorance while the numbers and figures says otherwise...
someone should look up the word "great"
and what is this Obama cousin nonsense? i mean i know President Obama is a very intelligent man, but thats not a fucking credential for his cousin lol
as if his cousins accomplishments somehow validate him by proxy?
like he would put that on his resume or something? lol
oh man lol well i can see this will be a productive thread, im sure a whole buttload of well thought out and perfectly valid discussion culminating in a mutual understanding and newfound respect for opposing viewpoints, will come of this thread...
That he is anti-Obama is a quite evident fact. Whether being so is considered a "discredit" or not is entirely up to you.
From what I've gathered from his own statements, his problem with the Healthcare Initiative (when they start out by calling it "Obamacare" they've already outed themselves, imo) is that he'd have to pocket 5% less of of his anticipated Medicare payments if he fell among the top 90% of physicians making referrals to specialists.
That's a helluva lot to ask of someone sworn to provide care to those in need, just so more people can be afforded coverage, eh?
Yep and as the article states:
What’s also important, but not evident, on this chart is that Obama’s major expenses were temporary — the stimulus is over now — while Bush’s were, effectively, recurring. The Bush tax cuts didn’t just lower revenue for 10 years. It’s clear now that they lowered it indefinitely, which means this chart is understating their true cost. Similarly, the Medicare drug benefit is costing money on perpetuity, not just for two or three years. And Boehner, Ryan and others voted for these laws and, in some cases, helped to craft and pass them.
They can count on voter ignorance and amnesia or both and get away with blaming the financial mess on Obama as little enzo did above.
People who compile the numbers lie.
What's that saying about lies, damned lies, and statistics?:wink:
A Club of Liars, Demagogues and Ignoramuses