2 threads centering around guns and gun isses caught my eye today and there were so many well informed people but for every one of em there were 3 people with their head in the sand and a few who just applied COMMON SENSE . and made apoint as she useually dose, but as a cop's son and inactive military let me throw in my 2 cents by responding to the quotes that stood out ............................... The right should be abolished. You can say what you want, but there is no need whatsoever to have a gun. And if you think there is...then the law enforcement isn't doing their job! First off, the word should is for mothers and dying folks, but anyway, when monster breaks into your house and cripples you and is sexually assaulting your wife/partner.... kids, parent.....if john Wayne who everr walks in with that big evil gun in hand, are you REALLY gonna tell him theres no need to have that, he should wait for the police while you watch the guy shoot one on mom? doubt it .. our current leaders are working toward the OHHHH SO ENLIGHTEND ENGLANDS standard of a living big brother program, but until we have all our rights stripped away, we need to hang on to that as long as we can. The vast majority of illicit guns in México come from the US the vast majority of the illicit DRUGS in this country that the people get killed over come FROM!!!! Mexico, were even . Right now, a tremendous number of crimes are solved every year simply because MOST guns have been registered. . AHHHHHH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHA HA HA HAHA AHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!! man, dig in your ass and pull me out this b.s "TREMENDOUS NUMBER"...... I have dozens of guns, and out of the 60-70 I have, you know how many are registered? 4 .. A fully automatic AK-47 I brought home, a colt M4, an M249 SAW and my M203 (grenade launcher) .. And the ONLY reason they are registered is because they have to be or its time in club fed. The spun shit you are referring to is the little know fact that any gun assembled in the u.s is test fired and the round is collected and # and the markings are sold to the fbi,atf,nsa,cia,cid and socom crime labs....but sorry, Not local P.D, they get to wait in line and it costs em 5500 dollars and about 6-10 weeks to have a bullet pattern speced EVERY time they do it, lot of trouble and money, police, courts, lawyers it all ads up ....... and MOST violent crimes are not committed against people that matter in the eyes of the budget committee. so that victim's name gets a baby snot green detective for about 3 days then a nice spot in the bottom of the stack. If you dont hear about it on the news, it doesnt get investigated, sorry. just filed as one of those numbers you like to throw out in the big pile of "who cares" so get to me as asson as you can with that "tremendous number" of registered guns that can some how lead to the guy who stole it used it and dropped it in a sewer grate..... As much as I don't agree with it, I do understand the right for people to own guns. I just wish they would put stricter guidelines on those that actually want to buy them. Getting a gun and/or license to own one should be as difficult as getting a driver's license my pot head cousin got his drivers license last week took 4 hours .. in Fulton co G.A (Atlanta) the avg wait time on a carry permit is 1-2 years. but the folks who go out and rob stores... don't wanna go puttheir finger prints on file.... get me? Gun ownership should also be a right that is repealable on an individual basis, especially if the person in question has done prison time. That way, irresponsible people would have a harder time obtaining one, preventing some aspiring 50 Cent, gangsta-wannabes from getting any wild ideas. Cant have a gun if youve been to prision for a felony OR if you have ever been found guilty in your whole life of domestic abuse . And yeah . Lets take rights away from ALLLLLLL the folks who say or do or even had wild ideas we dont understand, thats the america i want! the bill of REPEALABLE RIGHTS! people are not knifed down on a regular basis and the victims are usually others that carry them....its not innocent people being killed en mass there are 100 stabbing and cuttings for every ONE G.S.W admitted to any hospital in this country and they are rarely fatal ..and WOUNDED doesnt get you to get off MySpace and watch the news so they don't report it, it dosen't happen, because to kill a person with an edged weapon it requires A) a skill and knowledge of human anatomy that is difficult to grasp when you are too drunk off colt 45 to stand as in most stabbings B) a knife sharp enough with a tempered blade that can maintain an edge past the 5 P.S.I it requires to sever human connective tissue and flesh and not slide into your plam while you're in the act. C) A brutality to do it which is in us all, but also a coldness to stay calm in the act .. not many people have it, and the ones that do don't get caught Sometimes people live so far from (or in the case of some parts of Los Angeles: so near to) law enforcement that response can take hours (or never arrive at all) California has the strictest and most outrageous gun control laws in the country still one of the leaders in G.S.Ws I guess its only THERE taking guns away from the people who get the permits and actually DO register the guns WONT stop criminals from committing crimes, RIGHT Then there was the tragic shooting at the holocaust museum .. I didnt see it as anti Semitic just an old man who, like at the ins place a few months ago, had enough tactical knowledge to grasp fish in a barrel, if the man was affiliated I do apologize sincerely but thats just what I first said to myself .. But some of the quotes that caught my eye were.. They just reported on the network news that hate groups are on the rise since 2000 by a significant percentage, Sheesh I coulda told 'em that back in '07. :shocked1: They sure did! And back about ehh 6 years ago the "network" reported that sadam had WMDs that turned out to be a building we knew was just warehouses before we went I know I was there;..... you buy everything that idiot box tells you and it always earns its name sake . Chances are they do have members in the police and even possibly the military. Existing in a predominately white society makes it easy for them to hid in plain sight. Conspercy theory!....you're telling us you thing the police, in the city controlled by the biggest threat to the second amendment in history her highness Pelosi, would let even the SLIGHTEST possibility of a lunatic who just validated her argument with bloodshed on one of the most powerful minorities on earth run off int he north GA mtns?? A cop can have his views and a cop can have his hang ups, when the call goes out signal 001 that means chiefs office/city hall . And if you fuck up, its your pension, your job, your career and most likely JAIL TIME if even one janitor ever heard you use the word Jews and them in the same sentence ..look at the 96 olympics suspect, no cop is going to risk that, i know, I was raised by one. .. bottom line .. njq said it they arent gonna take our guns away, it wouldnt be possible. We are a nation of warriors with varied degrees of skill, that thrives on war, half of em were for NO REASON AT ALL, but within 8 years of them ending every time we experienced decades of the highest prosperity to date . We are Rome, and we cannot be disarmed . BUT, flash suppressors, chrome bolts and barrels, hi-cap mags, tactical accessories and high impact rounds will be limited to law enforcement only, they can't force us to surender our property... If there is some magic way to take every gun on this earth away from the people who would do harm with them, after you box up theirs, come get mine, I hate guns, hate bullets even more but as long as I need em Ill keep till you take em ..Sorry to rant but i was sober for a year, humor methis was all building up, and besides whos gonna read it ?