ooh, good one. Probably the best example I can think of at the moment.
Guys: What's your fav male bonding movie?-- not porn!!
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ooh, good one. Probably the best example I can think of at the moment.
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Agree that Butch & Sundance is the King of male bonding movies (and the seminal "buddy" picture, spawning Lethal Weapons and Bad Boys aplenty).
Saving Private Ryan: somewhat of a post-modern male-bonding movie (ironically set in 1944).
Swingers: great "cocktail scene" buddy movie.
Apocalypse Now: the anti-buddy movie, nevertheless revered by buddy movie lovers.*
Cheese category: Take your pic of Swayzeeness with Point Break or Road House, both unapologetically insipid, yet both paradoxically induce the viewer to continue watching. Possibly it's the amazing mugging of Gary Busey or Ben Gazzara, the wooden beauty of Keanu Reeves and Kelly Lynch, the steady charisma of Sam Elliot or the early turn by John C. McGinley, but who really cares? This is tasty cheese.
* Also revered by a great many discriminating cinephiles, often for highly divergent reasons.
Saving Private Ryan: somewhat of a post-modern male-bonding movie (ironically set in 1944).
Swingers: great "cocktail scene" buddy movie.
Apocalypse Now: the anti-buddy movie, nevertheless revered by buddy movie lovers.*
Cheese category: Take your pic of Swayzeeness with Point Break or Road House, both unapologetically insipid, yet both paradoxically induce the viewer to continue watching. Possibly it's the amazing mugging of Gary Busey or Ben Gazzara, the wooden beauty of Keanu Reeves and Kelly Lynch, the steady charisma of Sam Elliot or the early turn by John C. McGinley, but who really cares? This is tasty cheese.
* Also revered by a great many discriminating cinephiles, often for highly divergent reasons.
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Love?
I didn't feel it in BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN. I can tell you what BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN was about. Men who really didn't have a good sense of themselves. They worked some shit jobs. Married and had kids. While hooking up with each other...neglecting the ones that were trying to love them...but instead got a bunch of men with issues. Powerful love...what a laugh.
Man, the ending was even more macabre. Ennis was in a trailer somewhere desolate. He had his dead lover's shirt in his closet.
Man, what a fucked up movie. <lightsarcasm>Gay guys are learning romance from that gel of a movie.</lightsarcasm>
The lessons I learned from BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN...
1. Don't fall in love with a guy who can give good tent sex.
2. Dumbass, there are gay honky-tonks. Go get a fucking gay cowboy.
3. If you get married and have children...stay with your family. THEY NEED YOU. YOU CHOSE TO MARRY HER AND MAKE CHILDREN WITH HER. IF YOU WANT TO FUCK A RODEO RANGER...YOU SHOULD'VE STAYED FUCKING RODEO RANGERS.
4. Don't bitch when you can't fuck but once every five or so years. Gay men definately are men of opportunity. They will be fucking many men while you are waiting for that one time every five years. And it wouldn't always be with some gay hustlers in Tijuana either.
Annie Proulx be damned! She didn't even rewrite the short story. Ang Lee, did a remarkable job filming the movie and Gustavo Santaolalla did a great job with the music score...but the story was disconnected.
Love?
I didn't feel it in BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN. I can tell you what BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN was about. Men who really didn't have a good sense of themselves. They worked some shit jobs. Married and had kids. While hooking up with each other...neglecting the ones that were trying to love them...but instead got a bunch of men with issues. Powerful love...what a laugh.
Man, the ending was even more macabre. Ennis was in a trailer somewhere desolate. He had his dead lover's shirt in his closet.
Man, what a fucked up movie. <lightsarcasm>Gay guys are learning romance from that gel of a movie.</lightsarcasm>
The lessons I learned from BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN...
1. Don't fall in love with a guy who can give good tent sex.
2. Dumbass, there are gay honky-tonks. Go get a fucking gay cowboy.
3. If you get married and have children...stay with your family. THEY NEED YOU. YOU CHOSE TO MARRY HER AND MAKE CHILDREN WITH HER. IF YOU WANT TO FUCK A RODEO RANGER...YOU SHOULD'VE STAYED FUCKING RODEO RANGERS.
4. Don't bitch when you can't fuck but once every five or so years. Gay men definately are men of opportunity. They will be fucking many men while you are waiting for that one time every five years. And it wouldn't always be with some gay hustlers in Tijuana either.
Annie Proulx be damned! She didn't even rewrite the short story. Ang Lee, did a remarkable job filming the movie and Gustavo Santaolalla did a great job with the music score...but the story was disconnected.
Someone leave you for another woman or did you get dumped on?
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No, that isn't the point...the point is that BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN isn't a gay "love" story. That movie was some disconnected mess.
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Someone leave you for another woman or did you get dumped on?
No, that isn't the point...the point is that BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN isn't a gay "love" story. That movie was some disconnected mess.
No one said It was a gay love story.....Invisibleman. Annie wrote the story. It is HER story. I don't think she was trying to make some politically correct in any sense of the world. She had a thought about 'what if' and created a story from characters and situations in her head. She was not trying to write a definitive love story about men. Why don't YOU write it and then we can all take pot shots at your creative powers.
The woman wrote a story. Period. It happened to have men having sex in it. Now, are you going to moralize about "From Here to Eternity" or any other novel of the last century that has married people being unfaithful to spouses. Hey, here's one - Bridges of Madison County - popular book - popular film - Go moralize on that one.
Originally Posted by oacliffbuddy
Someone leave you for another woman or did you get dumped on?
No, that isn't the point...the point is that BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN isn't a gay "love" story. That movie was some disconnected mess.
No one said It was a gay love story.....Invisibleman. Annie wrote the story. It is HER story. I don't think she was trying to make some politically correct in any sense of the world. She had a thought about 'what if' and created a story from characters and situations in her head. She was not trying to write a definitive love story about men. Why don't YOU write it and then we can all take pot shots at your creative powers.
The woman wrote a story. Period. It happened to have men having sex in it. Now, are you going to moralize about "From Here to Eternity" or any other novel of the last century that has married people being unfaithful to spouses. Hey, here's one - Bridges of Madison County - popular book - popular film - Go moralize on that one.
1. I don't think we often choose who we fall in love with,The lessons I learned from BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN...
1. Don't fall in love with a guy who can give good tent sex.
2. Dumbass, there are gay honky-tonks. Go get a fucking gay cowboy.
3. If you get married and have children...stay with your family. THEY NEED YOU. YOU CHOSE TO MARRY HER AND MAKE CHILDREN WITH HER. IF YOU WANT TO FUCK A RODEO RANGER...YOU SHOULD'VE STAYED FUCKING RODEO RANGERS.
4. Don't bitch when you can't fuck but once every five or so years. Gay men definately are men of opportunity. They will be fucking many men while you are waiting for that one time every five years. And it wouldn't always be with some gay hustlers in Tijuana either.
or those we feel an erotic connection to for that matter.
2. I don't think there were many "gay honky-tonks" around in 1963, especially in Wyoming.
I bet there aren't too many there even now.
3. A lot of men get married and have children before they realize they have other desires.
Lots more did in the 1950's-'60's.
It's a huge and very common dilemna, and it tears people and families apart.
Do you have an easy solution for them?
4. I think the relationship had more to do with deep passionate love denied, and a powerful erotic connection between those two men, less about getting some anonymous gay sex.
Due to cultural disapproval, life and family commitments it created a tragic and impossible situation for them.
Sorry you missed that "lesson".
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BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN (film) was marketed nationwide as a gay love story.
Funny how Hollywood didn't say it was a gay "love" affair between two guys who had married to women and had kids.
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1. I don't think we often choose who we fall in love with,
or those we feel an erotic connection to for that matter.
Everyone is entitled to erotic connections and erotic feelings. But when you marry someone,
you don't really have that right "to having your cake and eating it"...unless you have a prenuptual agreement.
2. I don't think there were many "gay honky-tonks" around in 1963, especially in Wyoming.
I bet there aren't too many there even now.
Seek and you will find. Jack Twist went to Mexico.
3. A lot of men get married and have children before they realize they have other desires.
Lots more did in the 1950's-'60's.
It's a huge and very common dilemma, and it tears people and families apart.
Do you have an easy solution for them?
If they had FACEBOOK accounts then...would they classify themselves as "It's Complicated"?
People cheated and fucked on each other then, I suspect.
If marriage is supposed be this honorable thing, why aren't people honoring it? Should we marry knowing that one day our spouses will not honor it by cheating? I never wanted to marrry--gay or traditional. I wouldn't want to be in a situation of fucking around on someone I loved and honored.
4. I think the relationship had more to do with deep passionate love denied, and a powerful erotic connection between those two men, less about getting some anonymous gay sex.
Due to cultural disapproval, life and family commitments it created a tragic and impossible situation for them.
Jack Twist tried to hit on a rodeo clown.
Another married guy tried to hook up with Jack Twist but Jack wasn't interested.
Jack Twist went to Mexico and got a hookup.
or those we feel an erotic connection to for that matter.
Everyone is entitled to erotic connections and erotic feelings. But when you marry someone,
you don't really have that right "to having your cake and eating it"...unless you have a prenuptual agreement.
2. I don't think there were many "gay honky-tonks" around in 1963, especially in Wyoming.
I bet there aren't too many there even now.
Seek and you will find. Jack Twist went to Mexico.
3. A lot of men get married and have children before they realize they have other desires.
Lots more did in the 1950's-'60's.
It's a huge and very common dilemma, and it tears people and families apart.
Do you have an easy solution for them?
If they had FACEBOOK accounts then...would they classify themselves as "It's Complicated"?
People cheated and fucked on each other then, I suspect.
If marriage is supposed be this honorable thing, why aren't people honoring it? Should we marry knowing that one day our spouses will not honor it by cheating? I never wanted to marrry--gay or traditional. I wouldn't want to be in a situation of fucking around on someone I loved and honored.
4. I think the relationship had more to do with deep passionate love denied, and a powerful erotic connection between those two men, less about getting some anonymous gay sex.
Due to cultural disapproval, life and family commitments it created a tragic and impossible situation for them.
Jack Twist tried to hit on a rodeo clown.
Another married guy tried to hook up with Jack Twist but Jack wasn't interested.
Jack Twist went to Mexico and got a hookup.
As the OP for this thread, I think the discussion about "Brokeback Mountain" has gotten hijacked way off course.
The orginal question is about male-bonding movies. And "Brokeback Mountain" was centrally about two men who stumbled into a special friendship. Their flawed and awkward love affair, the infidelity sub-plots and tragic outcome, even collectively, do not cancel out the bond created between Ennis and Jack.
So for this topic, "BBM" is a great example of a male-bonding movie. Thanks.
The orginal question is about male-bonding movies. And "Brokeback Mountain" was centrally about two men who stumbled into a special friendship. Their flawed and awkward love affair, the infidelity sub-plots and tragic outcome, even collectively, do not cancel out the bond created between Ennis and Jack.
So for this topic, "BBM" is a great example of a male-bonding movie. Thanks.
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im surprised this hasnt been mentioned yet but...
Four Brothers i found was a great male bonding movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLbEGkjmTxg
Four Brothers i found was a great male bonding movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLbEGkjmTxg
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