Guys who PREFER cut or uncut

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If you use "mutilation" for male circumcision, then you must use mutilation for all cosmetic surgery, face lifts, breasts lifts, breat augmentation etc etc.

Circumcision is cosmetic surgery. Period. It is not a mutilation.

That you do not agree that cosmetic surgery should be done on a baby, fine. But don't call it mutilation.

To reiterate, they're playing with the technical definition -- mutilation being removing healthy tissue -- not saying that all cosmetic surgery is "mutilation." Both are dickish, one is just correct by technicality.
 

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I'm in agreement here. If a guy is cut, i find it a major turn-off. I have said many times before, it doesn't matter to me how attractive a guy is, if he is cut, it just won't work for me. It's nothing personal.

I think this is totally unfair as most guys who are cut had no choice in the decision at all.. so yes it is personal..

If you use "mutilation" for male circumcision, then you must use mutilation for all cosmetic surgery, face lifts, breasts lifts, breat augmentation etc etc.

Circumcision is cosmetic surgery. Period. It is not a mutilation.

That you do not agree that cosmetic surgery should be done on a baby, fine. But don't call it mutilation.

Circumcision on an non consenting infant is MUTILATION..

it is only cosmetic surgery, when an adult CHOOSES TO BE CUT!!
 

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Saying my penis was mutilated is insulting and plain hurtful - especially since it was done when I was a baby. Right, I didn't have a say but being condemned now is so unfair. In the 50s the education wasn't there for parents. Often times, as was the case for me and my brothers, it was done routinely in the hospital without parents being consulted. My mom said she was never asked. She was in a Jewish hospital (the only Jewish hospital in 80% Catholic New Orleans) and it just got done.

Nowadays parents are asked and it's up to them to do their own homework and decide what they want for their son based on the information they get. Parents make lots of decisions for their children while they're young and can't decide for themselves. Why is this such an issue with you intactivists? You're cut and feel a piece of your manhood is missing? Start restoring and see a shrink.
 

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My penis was circumscribed without my knowledge. How do you think I feeeel!
 

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Saying my penis was mutilated is insulting and plain hurtful
Well, what exactly are you objecting to? If some abuser had cut most of one hand off and left an ugly scarred mess, would that be "mutilation"? Would you be insulted and hurt to have it described that way? (Or insulted and hurt by the act itself?) What if they had done it neatly?

I don't know why men take that word (which I avoid using) as such a personal attack. It doesn't reflect on your character.

- especially since it was done when I was a baby. Right, I didn't have a say but being condemned now is so unfair. In the 50s the education wasn't there for parents. Often times, as was the case for me and my brothers, it was done routinely in the hospital without parents being consulted. My mom said she was never asked. She was in a Jewish hospital (the only Jewish hospital in 80% Catholic New Orleans) and it just got done.
That is one aspect that is to be condemned. Many mothers would say that it having been done without their informed consent was what made it "mutilation". (And a Jewish hospital especially should have been less cavalier, since Jewish parents often want it done at home with ceremony and celebration on the 8th day.)

Nowadays parents are asked and it's up to them to do their own homework and decide what they want for their son based on the information they get.
That is not what "informed consent" is supposed to mean.

Parents make lots of decisions for their children while they're young and can't decide for themselves. Why is this such an issue with you intactivists?
Because there is no other decision like that one, to cut a normal, healthy, non-regrowing, functional part of the child's body off. The most nearly corresponding parts of girls' bodies get special legal protection (from not just ghastly African tribal cutting but any cutting at all).

You're cut and feel a piece of your manhood is missing? Start restoring and see a shrink.
Is something not missing? Is it not a piece of their manhood? Restoration can not replace everything. What could a shrink tell them that they don't know already?
 

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To me when a dude takes off his pants and hes cut or his dick looks like a bad cut or a tight cut. Its a letdown. Its not a dealbreaker if iam vibing with the dude but uncut is so much more pleasurable & fun.

But to me the cut guys rarely want to sympathize for the uncuts so i say hey whatever lol
 

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Y'all need to get a life. There will always be cut and uncut. I don't understand the huge drama.

I myself am cut and prefer it that way. As in, I prefer cut dicks too. But it will never be a deal breaker.

Also, I have a hair-trigger dick and precum buckets... in my case a more sensitive dick would actually be a huge impediment to my sex life.

One thing I will never do is judge people for whether they are cut or not.
All you guys who do need to get your heads examined.

I know the endless discussion will continue.
Just putting in my 2 cents.
 

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I started this thread just asking if guys REALLY referred one over the other. It got totally hijacked - as most circ threads do - by the intactivists. That's not what I was going for.

Snozzle, I'm not sure what you were going for. If my hand was removed and a horribly disfigured, scarred stump was there, yes that would come under "mutilation". Moreover, it would be no use to me and I would probably seek out a plastic surgeon to make a bit less ugly. My penis, however, was not chopped of and is of complete use to me in every way, shape and form! It was not disfigured and it's not ugly. I've seen cut guys with horrible circ scars and agree that that can be mentally scarring and I personally don't like them but for those of us with well done circs, why brutalize us by calling us mutilated?
 
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You know, there are those who say they don't have a preference. But if some dude told me I had been "mutilated", I wouldn't care if that dude was cut or uncut, I would lose a lot of respect for him and would not have any interest.

In general use the word "mutilation" is used to denote something that is disfiguring, ugly, or designed to prevent use of an organ. And this is exactly why the anti-circers use "mutilation" instead of "cosmetic surgery".

The "right to choose" argument to not snip a baby falls under the "cosmetic surgery" category.

If circumcision is a mutilation, then all male circumcisions should be banned including those cases where the male has serious foreskin problems.

It should be noted that we rarely hear of foreskin problems for females. So a clitoris hood (foreskin) circumcision for females is not something that is necessary or discussed much in medical books.

But for males, the foreskin is often problematic. Circumcision is one of the ways to fix it.

Also, a lot of females, even in uncircumcised countres, prefer a male with exposed glans. So circumcision is not "disfiguring". It merely shortens the skin on penis.
 

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I really have a hard time seeing this as anything except obsessive self-absorption. It's as if people focused on this are still "babies".

We don't claim to speak for them. Many of us do speak AS men who were circumcised without consent and object to that.
 

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I wish I had been cut as a new born. I had myself cut as an adult and it was the happiest day of my life. I would get embarrassed in school locker rooms with most of my pals being cut. I just wanted my dick to look like theirs. I liked the look of a cut dick. Now I'm not embarrassed to undress in locker rooms, if I were still in the military I would be comfortable nude with my Army pals in the barracks. I hated being uncut. I hated my foreskin. UGH!
 
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Y'all need to get a life. There will always be cut and uncut.
People have always eaten people,
What else is there to eat?
If the Juju had meant us not to eat people
He wouldn't have made us of meat!
- Flanders & Swann, The Reluctant Canniibal

Most of the world has never cut, and probably never will.

Also, I have a hair-trigger dick and precum buckets... in my case a more sensitive dick would actually be a huge impediment to my sex life.
Circumcised men say this all the time. It seems to be a consequence of circumcision - which is not surprising, when they have to rely on so many fewer nerve-endings. Yet intact men don't. It's not a question of "more sensitive" but what kind of sensitivity. More nerves mean more feedback, and hence more control.

One thing I will never do is judge people for whether they are cut or not. All you guys who do need to get your heads examined.
Judging the penis and what was done to it is not judging the man.
 
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I wish I had been cut as a new born. I had myself cut as an adult and it was the happiest day of my life. I would get embarrassed in school locker rooms with most of my pals being cut. I just wanted my dick to look like theirs. I liked the look of a cut dick. Now I'm not embarrassed to undress in locker rooms, if I were still in the military I would be comfortable nude with my Army pals in the barracks. I hated being uncut. I hated my foreskin. UGH!
The problem was not your foreskin but the fact that all the other guys were cut. If you'd grown up almost anywhere else in the developed world, no problem.
 

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If circumcision is a mutilation, then all male circumcisions should be banned including those cases where the male has serious foreskin problems.
So if cutting off a hand for no reason is mutilation, then all amputations should be banned including cases of gangrene?

It should be noted that we rarely hear of foreskin problems for females. So a clitoris hood (foreskin) circumcision for females is not something that is necessary or discussed much in medical books.

But for males, the foreskin is often problematic. Circumcision is one of the ways to fix it.
Cart-horse. If circumcision didn't carry all this cultural baggage, it wouldn't be nearly as common for "medical reasons". In countreies where it is not customary, the lifetime risk of needing it is one in thousands.

Also, a lot of females, even in uncircumcised countres, prefer a male with exposed glans.
A lot? How many? Your source?

So circumcision is not "disfiguring". It merely shortens the skin on penis.
You don't seem to have been paying attention. The foreskin is not just skin but mucosa, a thin layer of muscle (the dartos fascia), arteries veins and tens of thousands of nerves.
 

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Snoz you need a therapist. Seriously. You have issues about being cut "without your consent" and probably hold you parents in contempt; I'm guessing you and your parents are estranged because of it. That's how strongly you hate the fact that you're cut. It's a pity really. No, actually it's sad. You don't have much to say about anything else and dwell on this one topic. Looking through your posts supports that. A therapist can help you get over this anger issue and move on. Don't misunderstand me. I don't have a problem with standing up for what you believe but unless you're directing this to medical organizations, doctors, parent groups, etc, it's going absolutely nowhere here.
 

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Being primarily straight, I don't really have a preference really. I do like looking at hard cocks, and, in general, I tend to like to look at cut cocks that curve upward (banana cocks). I was teased when I was younger for being uncut, but I have no problem with being uncut now.