1. 32745

    32745 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2007
    Messages:
    67
    Likes Received:
    0
    hey guys,

    i know this might be a terribly misplaced topic, but people here seem to be mostly pretty helpful.

    does anyone know of a hair loss/male pattern baldness support forum? i found it hard to find because so many garbage results come up when you google a topic like this.

    i'm worried about my male hair loss. i don't care about being an older guy and going thin, but i'm only 24. most of the girls i talk to are 21-23. it's embaracing because it's so thick in the front and so sparce in the back. i feel like everytime i meet someone i have a secret that they'll find out when i turn around.

    i've used rogaine. it worked but it made my hair feel funny and i don't like smearing crap on my head. so i stopped. maybe a mistake.

    i'm looking at this stuff called nuhair. it's a pill that supposedly inhibits dht (which causes male pattern baldness). i'm hoping to find someone that's used this product or something similar.

    also looking into herbal supplements. ok, anything that i can do short of surgery or applying goop.

    thanks
     
  2. IntoxicatingToxin

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2006
    Messages:
    10,133
    Likes Received:
    152
    Just don't let it get to you! It's nature - what right do you have to be embarrassed? My cousin is 21 and has a receding hair line like you would not believe, but it doesn't stop him from meeting women and having a social life. Just accept it. It's part of who you are.
     
  3. jason_els

    jason_els <img border="0" src="/images/badges/gold_member.gi

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2004
    Messages:
    10,576
    Likes Received:
    25
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Warwick, NY, USA
    Use Propecia or finasteride cut-up into smaller portions. I do. Works great!
     
  4. biguy2738

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2007
    Messages:
    2,356
    Albums:
    1
    Likes Received:
    11
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Johannesburg, South Africa
    Right, now at the risk of making my post sound like an infomercial...:biggrin1::eek:

    I used to be in the hair industry a little while back and one product that I can swear on my life by is a US brand called Nioxin.

    It comes in many forms:

    "shampoo & conditioner", though it isn't just that and is called a cleanser and scalp therapy. The reason why the titles that we're used to are avoided is because as you know, baldness can either be caused by the genes or by the condition of the skin. Their products are all natural (including algaes and herbal extracts) and can literally be used from the tip of your head right down to your toes...and for any skin condition. I've used it for ecsema, rashes, styes (I kid you not) or if you have problem or sensitive skin, you can use it as a face wash and moisturiser. You can even use it as toothpaste (I've experimented and your teeth are squeeky clean afterwards. :biggrin1:) I have a white haired cat so she is washed with Nioxin...it is even safe to use on infants especially if they're suffering from cradle cap or infantile ecsema.

    There's treatments to use as a supplement to your cleansing regime. Styling aids which are alcohol free (bear in mind that products containing alcohol can clog your pores and assist with hair loss problems). They also have multivitamin caplets - my one friend is a specialist obstestrician who not only looked at the product but gave it a try (purely for multivitamin purposes, though it also assists with hairloss) and she gave it her thumbs up.

    Simply by lathering, you'll find that your nails will grow faster and stronger. There are some things to take into account though: Initially, your scalp may itch, become pimply or form a rash. This is not an allergic or adverse reaction. The dihydrotestosterone (DHT) or pseudo-estrogen collects under the scalp and this product draws it out which is why your scalp reacts in this manner. Your scalp may flake, but this is because it is removing the layer of dead skin on the surface of your scalp. It may look like a lot of hair is falling out. You won't have lost any more hair - I assure you. Your hair goes through three stages (growth, rest and then falling out), at times the DHT or alcohol based styling products etc. clogs up the pore which means that when it's time for your hair to fall out, it can't. With Nioxin purifying your scalp, it's then possible for the dead hair to fall out so that new hair can grow. You may encounter a tingly sensation when using the product and this is because it contains concentrated vitamin D which makes your blood circulate 700 faster than normal under your scalp. Your blood circulates in order to remove impurities so stimulating the circulation ensures that higher levels of purification takes place.

    It can take up to a year before you will be able to see a huge difference (though you'll see baby hair within a month or two), but it's worth it.

    Since you know about DHT, it may be old news to you, but I'd rather make sure that you know. ANY soft drinks in cans or plastic bottles, hot food served in styrofoam or plastic or even food heated (in the latter material, clingfilm etc.) in the microwave cause DHT. The reason why it (as well as pseudo-estrogen) collects under the scalp and causes hairloss is because it's a fake hormone. Since this is the case, it isn't identified as an impurity and thus it's allowed to "stay" in the system. I'm mentioning this so that you are able to make informed decisions about what you would like to consume.
     
  5. biguy2738

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2007
    Messages:
    2,356
    Albums:
    1
    Likes Received:
    11
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Johannesburg, South Africa
    Oh yes, one last thought. (Sorry!)

    If hairloss is in the genes, then unfortunately, you're fighting a losing battle. One way of being able to see if it's genetic (other than looking at your family members) is to look at your body. It's been proven that most men that are extremely hairy will end up going bald, where less hairy men (or men with hardly any chest hair) stand a better chance of retaining most of their hair.

    Best of luck!
     
  6. 32745

    32745 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2007
    Messages:
    67
    Likes Received:
    0
    biguy,
    interesting. i've heard about nioxin hair products. i kind of dismissed it though because i've decided to focus more on the pill/medication angle. i'll definitely look into it more though.

    and i didnt know all that about soft drinks and foam. do you think it would be better to drink out of glass bottles? or is the sugar and/or carbonation mostly to blame?

    genetically, things don't look good. my father's bald. both my grandfathers are bald. however, i'm not naturally very hairy. so i've got my fingers crossed about pinning this on shitty lifestyle choices. i mean, living healthier certainly can't hurt anything anyway. right?

    thanks for your input.
     
  7. sdbg

    Verified Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2007
    Messages:
    3,919
    Albums:
    2
    Likes Received:
    298
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    San Diego
    Verified:
    Photo
    Hey 32745:

    Hair loss is another one of nature's reminders that we're getting old. It's depressing. I had the same thing happen to me at 28 when I just started back to college. I went for a hair transplant consultation 2 years later. To do a minimal job back in the early '80s, it would have cost me $6,000 - $8,000. I thought about it for a few weeks and then decided that I would pass on the hair transplant, spend more time at the gym, and cut my hair shorter.

    By all means, try to keep the hair that you have. Try cutting your hair shorter so the thinning will be less obvious. There is very little we can do to stop the aging process, yet we can do many things to make our older years quality years. Eat mostly healthy foods, exercise vigorously, and be moderate when you party. Buffed, bald guys are hotter than wimpy pretty boys!
     
  8. Industrialsize

    Staff Member Moderator Gold Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2006
    Messages:
    24,285
    Albums:
    2
    Likes Received:
    2,147
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    United States
    I think that shaved heads or really closely buzzed hair on a guy is HOT!
     
  9. B_OtterJoq

    B_OtterJoq New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2006
    Messages:
    937
    Likes Received:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Minneapolis
    I stopped taking Propecia. Too many side effects, including erectile dysfunction. And since I've started working out regularly, I wanted to build muscle mass. That wasn't going to happen if I still took Propecia, as it blocks formation of the hormone necessary for increasing muscle mass. I also noticed that once I was off the medication, my mood was better, I had more energy, and I look damn hot with the bald spot.

    Let it happen. Testosterone makes hair grow elsewhere on the body, and it also makes hair thin out on top. Your thinning hair just announces to the world that you have high levels of male hormones. That's something to be celebrated, not "fixed."
     
  10. jockboy78

    jockboy78 New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2007
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    Hair pieces are a option, they are a lot better than yrs ago but can cost up to $3000, but you have a full head of hair. The draw backs are maintainance, and maybe someone figuring you have a wig on, I looked into it but decided to shave it, and to tell you the truth, chicks really dig it, guys, i am not so sure about?? A lot of the hair growth products can kill sex drive I hear.
     
  11. jason_els

    jason_els <img border="0" src="/images/badges/gold_member.gi

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2004
    Messages:
    10,576
    Likes Received:
    25
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Warwick, NY, USA
    That's very interesting. I've been taking it since it was first introduced. Last year I went on a finasteride holiday. Since then I've lost 25 lbs, I have increased energy, better mental functions, and I have morning wood, better erections, and more voluminous ejaculations. Now maybe this occurred because I wanted to lose weight and did so but maybe it was because I went off finasteride. I found this forum about finasteride and some of the things it found surprised me enormously. This makes me concerned about going back on it.

    Thanks OtterJoq!

     
  12. SpitFireWheels

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Messages:
    119
    Albums:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    It's all in how you cut your hair..When I used to have spiked up hair it you could always see right through to the scalp...but since I let it grow out it doesn't do that at all..try letting you hair grow longer in the back..You may just have fine hair on the back of your head..someone correct me if i'm wrong..but male pattern baldness usually stars at the crown/temples/scalp area..I think you'll be fine
     
  13. ripped rod

    ripped rod New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2008
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0

    Can you see Derek's fringeline?:confused:
     

    Attached Files:

Draft saved Draft deleted