Hammy73 / Michael Hamm (new Thread)

[nightbat]

That's actually not true. He is posting more risqué stuff than usual. He's post shots in wet underwear and full nude rear shots showing ass that he normally doesn't do.

I have seen everything that has been posted on his Patreon over the past month, it's all the same stuff we have seen in the past. Has this month been slightly more "lewd" than usually? Yes, but it's still stuff we have seen before, stuff you can easily find in this thread, just taken from a different angle or different lighting. We have seen his ass and wet underwear numerous times in the past, even on months that he did not promote as "extra lewd".

 

[SRCaxton]

Has this month been slightly more "lewd" than usually? Yes".

You said it yourself. Nuff said.
You're determined to hate him no matter what he does and that's totally your prerogative. Go ahead and hate, but gotta ask, why are you here then?

 

[SRCaxton]

And to be clear, I'm not having a go at you. I actually agree with some of your criticisms. However this time, even by your own admission, they're not justified.

 

[nightbat]

You said it yourself. Nuff said.

I didn't say this month wasn't more lewd than previous months, but that this month was nothing new that we haven't seen in months/years past, and that he still is using suggestive language to imply he is "pushing boundaries" and "revealing more than usual" when in reality he is not.

You're determined to hate him no matter what he does and that's totally your prerogative.

Nope, not even remotely true, i call people out who do bad things, it just so happens that Mr Hamm does a lot of bad things. I use to be a fan of his, i would like to be a fan once again, but i'm no simp that follows blindly, i hold people accountable for their actions.

why are you here then?

Because despite multiple people consistently stating otherwise, multiple people are falling victim to Hamms suggestive language, and i am here to try and prevent people from falling victim and wasting their money.

 

[Bob8675]

I subbed to the $2 tier today just to see what was on there. He has some pretty nice photos at that tier that show pretty heavy vpl. I keep seeing posts that require; $60, $100, and $200 a month to view. For me, that alone would kind of hint at fully nude to warrant such a higher asking price. If he's shirtless and showing vpl for $2, then at $200 I'd expect something a whole lot more. Granted it doesn't say nudity anywhere but I just find the pricetag odd. After seeing some of the photos posted here that would fall under the $200 category, based on the smoked over post previews from Patreon, I'd be super disappointed. If I spent $200 to see almost the same stuff I'm seeing for $2 I'd be pissed. Now if you are just giving him money because you like him and don't expect something, then I'm sure for you it isn't a big deal and you will continue to give him money. But for me, if I'm giving a stranger that much money, I'd expect a little more.

 

[HardArd]

I subbed to the $2 tier today just to see what was on there. He has some pretty nice photos at that tier that show pretty heavy vpl. I keep seeing posts that require; $60, $100, and $200 a month to view. For me, that alone would kind of hint at fully nude to warrant such a higher asking price. If he's shirtless and showing vpl for $2, then at $200 I'd expect something a whole lot more. Granted it doesn't say nudity anywhere but I just find the pricetag odd. After seeing some of the photos posted here that would fall under the $200 category, based on the smoked over post previews from Patreon, I'd be super disappointed. If I spent $200 to see almost the same stuff I'm seeing for $2 I'd be pissed. Now if you are just giving him money because you like him and don't expect something, then I'm sure for you it isn't a big deal and you will continue to give him money. But for me, if I'm giving a stranger that much money, I'd expect a little more.

well if you didn’t read what exactly the extra perks are for the $200 then that would be your own fault for being disappointed. It’s the same as not reading the terms and conditions to absolutely anything out there. There’s nothing stopping anyone from contacting him asking for clarity on what he does and doesn’t show before paying for a higher level. I really don’t understand the hate when there are actual scammers out there.

 

[bling bling blong]

omg stop fighting pls.

 

[Player_01]

i call people out who do bad things

Your posts in the Simu Liu thread suggest otherwise.

 

[nightbat]

Your posts in the Simu Liu thread suggest otherwise.

Simu literally, LITERALLY, did nothing wrong. Stop derailing this this.

 

[KingMeBro]

Is this dude a cult leader or something? Why is it every single time that people call out his suggestive wording and fake promises a bunch of people come to his defense? The dude is a human embodiment of a shitty mobile game add that is nothing like the finished product to try and get downloads… Only instead of downloads is hundreds of dollars in patreon tiers that promise boundary pushing but show hint of buttcheck. This coming from the same forum that will roast a guy posting full dick on their OF if it’s more than 10 dollars. What about Hammy makes people defend his predatory practices so much?

 

[themental]

He clearly explains and posts exactly what he says he's going to post; never once has he lied about what he's posting, and clearly states the content is not fully nude/full frontal. If you don't want to subscribe, then simply don't, it's a pretty easy solution.

You're just mad because you feel entitled, and he won't post what you want him to post; doesn't that make you the toxic predatory one in this situation? It's kinda gross.

 

[nightbat]

and clearly states the content is not fully nude/full frontal.

Show me where on his Patreon that he says this clearly?
Show me where he has said it recently?

You're just mad because you feel entitled, and he won't post what you want him to post;

You're projecting.

He clearly explains and posts exactly what he says he's going to post;

Take a look at one of his most recent ads from his Insta that was posted here recently, tell where amongst all that suggestive language does he make it clear what is being posted?

 

[themental]

Ok sweetie, you just keep being angry because someone won't send you a dickpic.

 

[nightbat]

Ok sweetie, you just keep being angry because someone won't send you a dickpic.

Notice how you failed to provide proof and ignored my questions.

 

[themental]

It's not my job to do your research, and I have no obligation to respond to your questions.

Personally, I've been a subscriber to his Patreon at a low tier on and off for a couple years, and always been happy with the content, and never feel scammed. He posts regularly, responds to my messages, sends out signed prints, and that's good enough for my monthly subscription.

It's fun and sexy, but never explicit, but he's never once promised full frontal or explicit content; he teases like everyone else does, but that's what "lewd" content is in the cosplay community, heavily suggestive, but not porn.

I think the community of fans that get defensive are the same ones as me, that don't feel like we're getting ripped off. I don't like seeing someone dragged just because they don't want to send their dickpics to everyone on the internet. Sure we want the lewds, but seeing people get trashed just because they don't publish explicit content is just gross, and feels like sexual harassment.

 

[nightbat]

It's not my job to do your research, and I have no obligation to respond to your questions.

You are the one making the claim that he provides plenty of clear warnings that he doesn't post full nudity, therefore it is on you to provide proof.

I have done plenty of research, go back and look through this very thread and you will find numerous posts where i highlight in great detail how Hamm is a scammer, i even provide screenshots and other evidence.

Sadly people are falling for his scam, he made a Patreon post welcoming a influx of new members, amazing what a few highly suggestive and misleading posts can do.

 

[klamstrakur]

i love how not posting nudes is considered "predatory" now. could argue being entitled and trying to bully someone into posting nudes is more predatory than any "suggestive" language.

 

[Havoc147]

You are the one making the claim that he provides plenty of clear warnings that he doesn't post full nudity, therefore it is on you to provide proof.

Sadly people are falling for his scam, he made a Patreon post welcoming a influx of new members, amazing what a few highly suggestive and misleading posts can do.

I dont know why I'm bothering with this because you're clearly single minded and not capable of being open to other points of view. So after this I'll be blocking your hate (which I suggest everyone else who's tired of this does: Click on the account and click "ignore")

His Patreon sign up page clearly lists the benefits of each tier, then goes to talk at length about how it's a COSPLAY page that he started to improve his COSPLAY because he likes COSPLAY.

And then, what's this? Oh, HE PROVIDES EXAMPLES OF WHAT TO EXPECT

Videos, cosplay, fitness, model, boudoir, dumb selfies with accompanying photos.

Nowhere does he use terms like nudity, explicit, nsfw, x-rated, so if someone signs up expecting that, that's on them, not him. If you sign a contract without reading the terms and conditions, that's your own fault.
He doesn't need to list everything he DOESN'T do, that's insanity. That's like me saying that because he's Canadian I expect him to drink maple syrup while playing Ice Hockey and then saying I got scammed when he doesn't.

And then, omg, he.... thanked people? The audacity! What a monster
Bye Felicia

 

[pthirs]

What about Hammy makes people defend his predatory practices so much?

I legitimately think it’s because he’s, countless times, clearly stated what you can expect from his Patreon. Even doing an in depth post as to why he wouldn’t open an OnlyFans when it was booming last year.

Meanwhile, there’s other queerbaiting creators who purposefully mislead people through social media posts and don’t deliver what they suggest or hide behind absurd paywalls, and do anything to not clarify what content you get from them under a standard subscription (including hiding or deleting criticism).

If you don’t like him, or his content, dope. I 100% get and understand that, but what I don’t understand is the consistent people who have a hate boner for him and decide to call him “predatory” when he’s been clear (even posting back and forth here with others concerns) about what he does. Add on top of that people who want to tease having nudes/other content but then conveniently not delivering, all while being on a crusade, and thus choosing to mislead themselves.

 

[nightbat]

trying to bully someone into posting nudes is more predatory than any "suggestive" language.

Good thing there is not a single person in this entire thread doing that.

I dont know why I'm bothering with this because you're clearly single minded and not capable of being open to other points of view.

You are projecting, i am very open minded, like i have already said before i use to be a fan of Hamm and i am open to being a fan once again, yet despite me politely asking numerous times for people to provide proof countering my facts not a single person has done so. If Hamm were to apologize and stop being problematic i would end my criticisms of him.

His Patreon sign up page clearly lists the benefits of each tier, then goes to talk at length about how it's a COSPLAY page that he started to improve his COSPLAY because he likes COSPLAY.

And then, what's this? Oh, HE PROVIDES EXAMPLES OF WHAT TO EXPECT

Videos, cosplay, fitness, model, boudoir, dumb selfies with accompanying photos.

Thankyou for proving i am right. Not a single warning that he doesn't post nudity.

Nowhere does he use terms like nudity, explicit, nsfw, x-rated, so if someone signs up expecting that, that's on them, not him.

Nope, in fact in advertising it's actually against the law to mislead people. It doesn't matter if he does not use terms like "nudity, explicit, nsfw, x-rated" if he uses language and imagery to imply those things the fault is on him.

If you sign a contract without reading the terms and conditions, that's your own fault.

And if there was clear warning saying he doesn't post nudity then you would have a point, but he doesn't.

He doesn't need to list everything he DOESN'T do, that's insanity.

Not everything... obviously, you are being dramatic, but when he uses extremely suggestive language and deliberately censors photos to heavily imply nudity which leads people to be consistently mislead... then yes he does have to make a clear warning.

So after this I'll be blocking your hate

Everyone notice: I have done nothing but provide calm rational criticism towards a person who is using misleading advertising to lure in money from vulnerable people. I have provide proof, screenshots, pictures, text, evidence to support my argument. Despite me asking kindly for people to prove me wrong, not one single person in this entire thread has done so, instead i have been attacked, insulted, and barraged by endless hate.... yet i am the bad guy.

Go ahead and block me, i honestly could not care less.