Happy Holidays....Sharing a short film with you all
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_________________________________________greek18 said:
I would prefer to not view fundamentalist propaganda. Thank you.
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Beautiful...we all need to remember that Christmas is more than commercialism.
Caneadea if you can't see the message there, you don't need to be celebrating Christmas and need to eat another bran muffin.
Caneadea if you can't see the message there, you don't need to be celebrating Christmas and need to eat another bran muffin.
prepstudinsc said:
I think I can see where's Caneadea's coming from.
My personal opinion: The pictures are nice, but the words have a a bit of a sickening, nauseating, hollow ring to them. And, I can't speak for Caneadea or others here, but if I were a member of a minority which has never been treated fairly by Christianity (Christmas is associated with Christianity, right?), those words might even reek of hypocrisy and intolerance.
So, Prepstudinsc, I don't want to start a debate here, and again I'm only speaking for myself, but I hope that you can see why different people will not get the same message when viewing this short movie.
____________________________________________________Pappy said:
Wouldn't you agree that this holiday means different things to different people?
Theists, agnostics, atheists, Jews, Muslims, and on and on.
This is obviously what the holiday means to you. And I applaud that. However, your beliefs should not be crammed down the throats of others.
A difference of opinion is not wrong. It is merely different.
( Please note that I edited my original comment to tone it down a bit.)
And neither should yours. This works both ways. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and nobody twisted your arm to get you to click on the link. You didn't like what you saw, fine, keep your derogatory comments to yourself, or be prepared to catch some flack from people that feel different from you.
__________________________________________________prepstudinsc said:
I regret the "bran muffin" comment. I was over zealous in my attempt at humor.
To you, Christmas is more than commercialism. Many others would beg to differ.
I see very clearly the message here. Fundamentalists are pushing their fundamentalism.
Celebrating Christmas allows me to give presents to the ones I love and to take part in providing a good meal that I get to share with those same people.
Pappy said:
Again, I don't think that there is one message in this film, so I disagree with your viewpoint about "failing to see the message". People who don't see the same thing that you see are just seeing something different, they're not "failing to see the message".
And, I decide for myself what this season and holiday are about, as far as my life is concerned. I don't need anyone else to tell me what it should be about.
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I think that it is a message of peace for ALL! After all, it is Christmas. Let's stop this political correctness bullshit!
MERRY CHRISTMAS! JOYEUX NOEL! FROEHLICHE WEIHNACHTEN!
Καλά Χριστούγεννα και ευτυχισμένος το νέο έτος! (for greek in Greek)
MERRY CHRISTMAS! JOYEUX NOEL! FROEHLICHE WEIHNACHTEN!
Καλά Χριστούγεννα και ευτυχισμένος το νέο έτος! (for greek in Greek)
______________________________________Spladle said:
That was exactly what I expected. That or something amusing. But, it just kept going with more and more fundamentalist preaching piled on top of the message of peace. If the post had contained some clue as to its content, I would not have clicked on the link.
SexyCobra,
Thank you for your very kind support. You got my point exactly.
Fundamentalists seem to think that everyone welcomes their message. Then, when someone disagrees or is offended, they become vicious.
For those who took the film whose link I supplied wrongly.....I apologize. I, like so many others who commented here, fail to see the religious or as it has been stated "fundamentalism" in this message of Peace, and tranquility.........all it says gentlemen (who disagree) is to find the peace which this night (Christmas Eve) represents or symbolizes in EVERY night of their lives..........that is all..........now can anyone tell me which world religion is against Peace??????????
but........it seems that very few topics can be discussed here....Let me correct myself and try to fit in:
MY DICK IS **** inches long and *****thick......I am not cut......my foreskin is **********........and my girlfriends cringe when I try to screw them>?????????????...........politically correct now?????????
Peace on Earth gentlemen........oops.......sorry for the fundamentalist propaganda!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy Holidays to you all...........no offense intended as NONE was taken.
but........it seems that very few topics can be discussed here....Let me correct myself and try to fit in:
MY DICK IS **** inches long and *****thick......I am not cut......my foreskin is **********........and my girlfriends cringe when I try to screw them>?????????????...........politically correct now?????????
Peace on Earth gentlemen........oops.......sorry for the fundamentalist propaganda!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy Holidays to you all...........no offense intended as NONE was taken.
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The fundamentalist message would have been "commercialism is a sin, Santa is evil, you must repent or you will burn in hell forever, Jesus is the only way to eternal life and if you don't believe you are going to hell." I didn't get one bit of that from the movie. It talked about peace.
Now while I do believe that commercialism has taken the real message out of Christmas and that people have shifted the real meaning so far out of context that even churches can't see the real point behind it (mega-churches cancelling church this Sunday), the movie clip was not talking about anything of the sort. If Canadea couldn't see the message of peace, he's got bran muffins over his eyes and needs to stop acting like a scrooge.
Now while I do believe that commercialism has taken the real message out of Christmas and that people have shifted the real meaning so far out of context that even churches can't see the real point behind it (mega-churches cancelling church this Sunday), the movie clip was not talking about anything of the sort. If Canadea couldn't see the message of peace, he's got bran muffins over his eyes and needs to stop acting like a scrooge.
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Hito all of you. I am so sad to say that in all of my 74 years I have never seen so many people who are opposed to Christmas. I guess I have always had my head and heart in the clould and took things simply and didd not look for such sadistic meanings.
I admit that I over reacted.
I am not anti Christmas.
I am not anti peace.
I believe that "greek18" innocently offerred a link that he found endearing and that represented his values.
And, as I predicted, the theists had to viciously attack anyone who was offended by the heavy dose of religion piled on top of the message of peace.
Believe in whatever you choose. I am the first to support your freedom to practice your religion. However, I have the right to not be exposed to it.
Instead of castigating me, why don't you make an attempt to learn why I feel the way I do?
Truly evil people like Fred Phelps, Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson have hi-jacked organized religion and made it a cult of hatred.
What kind of people spend their time and money flying all over the country just so they can stand outside a funeral service holding up signs that say that their god HATES you?
What kind of people are so stupid and hateful that they blame hurricanes and other natural disasters on gays and lesbians?
What kind of religion supports the sexual molestation of children?
They have made me very sensitive toward this issue.
Your vicious attacks on me merely because I do not share your view, are exactly the negative aspects of so called "religion" that drive people away from it.
I wish that religion was more friendly, loving, welcoming, and peaceful.
I wish that all people practiced more goodness, kindness and decency.
I wish that everyone would live by the "golden rule".
PEACE
I am not anti Christmas.
I am not anti peace.
I believe that "greek18" innocently offerred a link that he found endearing and that represented his values.
And, as I predicted, the theists had to viciously attack anyone who was offended by the heavy dose of religion piled on top of the message of peace.
Believe in whatever you choose. I am the first to support your freedom to practice your religion. However, I have the right to not be exposed to it.
Instead of castigating me, why don't you make an attempt to learn why I feel the way I do?
Truly evil people like Fred Phelps, Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson have hi-jacked organized religion and made it a cult of hatred.
What kind of people spend their time and money flying all over the country just so they can stand outside a funeral service holding up signs that say that their god HATES you?
What kind of people are so stupid and hateful that they blame hurricanes and other natural disasters on gays and lesbians?
What kind of religion supports the sexual molestation of children?
They have made me very sensitive toward this issue.
Your vicious attacks on me merely because I do not share your view, are exactly the negative aspects of so called "religion" that drive people away from it.
I wish that religion was more friendly, loving, welcoming, and peaceful.
I wish that all people practiced more goodness, kindness and decency.
I wish that everyone would live by the "golden rule".
PEACE
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