Hardcore Size Queen - Natural Instinct or Obsession? Pt 1

[musclebutt2]

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And, I notice that no one seems to have the same reaction to the gay men here who demand a certain size.

Yeah, I've noticed that too. Double standards... ugh...

Please don't mistake the posts on LPSG as a true reflection of the gay community as a whole, that would be a gross error. There are many problems in the gay "community" that most outsiders are not aware of. There is rampant classism, sexism, ageism, racism, and body fascism that never seems to be addressed or discussed. Don't forget that these are men afterall; they have the same failings as their straight brethren. Perhaps there are less social constructs amongsts gays to conform to standard social conventions; however, with this freedom also comes a stiff price. There is a tendency towards extremes which is expressed by gays treating each other like shit, the following of a strict caste system, and a disasterous self-nihilism fueled by a lack of spirituality and direction. Furthermore, to illustrate a point: straight men expect women to look like Playgirl centerfolds; a completely unrealistic expectation not grounded in reality because even the images of Playgirl centerfolds are doctored with Photoshop; no human being looks like that naturally without some form of outside enhancement. This obviously has a negative affect on any woman's body image. Now, multiply the effects of that kind of body fascism by at least twice on men in the gay world. Due to a lack of social constraints, there is nothing to keep that mind set in check, it has already destroyed many lives and will continue to do so. Moreso than in comparison to a similar sample size of heterosexuals.

It isn't a double standard, there isn't that type of reaction (e.g. social control) to gay men demanding large cocks because it is an accepted norm. You might not be shamed for having a small dick, but don't expect to have pornstar sex on a regular basis either. You can't speak out against this inequality; the dynamics of cock culture are ingrained into boys' psyches during puberty and are galvanized in gay culture.

 

[wldhoney]

Please don't mistake the posts on LPSG as a true reflection of the gay community as a whole, <snip for length>

Musclebutt2, just to clarify, my statement was that one does not see such a negative reaction to a gay man saying he is a size queen here on LPSG, as they do to a woman saying the same. It may have happened and I simply was not here or did not see it. I have seen posts from men where they have stated that they will not accept less than "X" amount of inches, and you do not see the same strong reaction as you do on this thread. Not from straight or gay men and women. My implication is, if it is so upsetting, why aren't the straight men here reacting in the same way to the men who are size queens and telling them they are sad as well?

I agree that any difference in belief or lifestyle is going to have their own as well as similar problems, so my post is not referring to other issues or other forums in the gay community.

 

[Drifterwood]

I don't see anyone saying that she has no right to her obsession and need for sexual satisfaction. Her physical and psychological need is for a minimum of 9 x 6, so I am not going to call it prefernce anymore, her prefernce is for double digits, and hopefully the world's biggest cock one day, so yes D, you are in obsession territory and yes it must be lonely.

If I were to say that I measure women's weight and BMI before I let them have my cookies, you would think that I was weird and arrogant as to the worth of my cookies. And you would be right IMO. Maybe a tape measure for precise breast size, or a pantone book for skin or hair colour?

But please don't present it as if they have the issue. If you have an obsession, it's your problem, not everyone else's.

To subject people to arbitrary physical examination back in the bedroom is deeply insulting to their right to human dignity. Why not carry a small card that says, "my vagina needs more than 9 x 6, and I will measure".

 

[the_reverend]

well, your standards leave me pretty disqualified, but if it's what works for you...then i say go for it. why settle for anything else than what you want? i have a female friend who's told me that she prefers guys on the more average to small size, and made a point (in jest, since we're just friends) that this would definitely disqualify me. who cares? you're up front and honest about it too, which is excellent. it's not like you lead the guy on, get him back to your place and kick him out once you see it. if he lies about it in the hopes of getting in your pants, that's his problem. some guys like breasts or asses of a particular size. some are more open. guys and girls alike have preferences for weight, height, race, hair color, eye color, and a thousand other factors. sometimes those preferences are very discriminatory and sometimes they're incredibly less so (my "type" for instance has always had more to do with personality than physicality). and you know what? there's NOTHING wrong with any of that. you're open and honest about what you want out of sex and that's great. don't settle and don't compromise if you don't feel like you have to.

and no worries, i'm not offended about being below your required size...we were never going to have sex anyway.

 

[SpoiledPrincess]

We all have a certain set of standards, if we meet someone and they don't meet these standards we reject them, people may say it's shallow but to reject someone for being under your size preference is as valid a choice as rejecting them for any physical shortfall - if they weren't good looking enough, slim enough, whatever, a small penis isn't any different to any other reason. We all have the right to choose what our criteria is and no one else really has any right to question our self choices.

 

[D_Kay_Sarah_Sarah]

Deb, i do see your standard a abnormally high and you are probably missing out on ALOT of great men, however it is your prerogative to set a size requirement, so best of luck finding your "horse hung" man.

:wink:

 

[Drifterwood]

We all have a certain set of standards, if we meet someone and they don't meet these standards we reject them, people may say it's shallow but to reject someone for being under your size preference is as valid a choice as rejecting them for any physical shortfall - if they weren't good looking enough, slim enough, whatever, a small penis isn't any different to any other reason. We all have the right to choose what our criteria is and no one else really has any right to question our self choices.

I don't think anyone disagrees with this SP.

It is the manner in which it is presented. There is a not so subtle difference imo in saying, they don't measure up to what I prefer, and I want something that they don't have.

Is it OK for me to say that I prefer Black people? Or what if I say White people don't do it for me? I think that would make me racist.

I think Diamond is a sizist

 

[socalbigdick]

I have rejected guys I meet with when they failed to measure 9x6.

awww, i think i can squeeze off 8.5 (real inches not internet inches, measuring it the base of penis to head of penis) its around 6.5 thick though. does that mean you wont have sex with me? or because i have that extra half an inch of thickness will you? oh well, let me know.

 

[Love-it]

Whilst my minimum vaginal ‘admission ticket’ is the stated 9x 6...

I am too short for the E-ticket ride even though I have the girth required and I can't win because I am too big for my wife. But I am in love with my wife so we deal with it.

Be thankful that there are women out there who are willing, able and eager to take the big ones because then there is someone for everybody.

 

[JennyS]

There's always something to be said for presentation though.

I think Diamond and njqt466 have both laid out similar types of limits in who they'll get into a sexual relationship with. But whereas njqt466's reads like a simple statement about her own needs in the bedroom, Diamond's can come across as a bit braggy.

The talk about admission tickets and the attention she'll shower on a big cock comes across as "I'm the best, I know you want me, but you're not getting any unless you're incredibly well endowed. You other girls may think you're size queens, but I am HARD CORE."

So on the one hand, I wouldn't look down on someone for having some pretty strong physical requirements about who they'll sleep with (like njqt466 said, sexual compatibility is important, and if you need a really big one to be satisfied, so be it), but at the same time I can understand how what she said is rubbing some people the wrong way (not so much of because what she said, but how she said it).

That's my 2 cents

 

[avantgarde]

Really because you contradict yourself in the rest of the post:biggrin1:

Seems that way, I was just joking seriously about the gaping part. If she's can be mean enough to play with someone's head get them naked, erect, kick them out, brag about it on the internetsss, not expecting someone to have just a teensy joke is stretching reality.

Larger ones are larger ones, and as i stated in my post "some women have a larger vagina. Our sexual organ sizes are inherited, if your dad was mandingo and you inherited the "size" trait of him, you vagina will stretch to larger proportions. It's as simple as that.

Passive aggressive, not really. There was a lot of tonal shift in my post, i guess it didn't show through too well. Oh well, I still stand by what i said.

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JennyS:

THANK YOU! you transcribed the exact thoughts running through my head reading her post.

 

[snoozan]

somewhat tangential to the subject, but:

i've always found it interesting that so many people that i've known who have very definite preferences and requirements for a partner many times end up falling in love with and/or partnered with people who most definitely do not meet their stated criteria.

i have a very close friend who insisted that he would never date a woman over 140 pounds and taller than 5'6". He ended up marrying a very tall, very voluptuous woman.

Another person I know insists that he loves large breasts and has a true fetish for them, but got very deeply involved with a woman who was flat chested.

I have a friend who is very level-headed and intelligent and couldn't have imagined doing something as taboo as getting involved with someone half her age, but she ended up falling in love with a hot little number who is young enough to be her son.

In all cases, they were very attracted to their partners and had/have very fulfilling relationships.

In my case, I was very into thin Asian men who dressed a certain way, had a particular political affiliation, certain age, etc. etc. I had a lot of things that I thought were indispensable in a partner. I ended up with someone nothing like what I thought I wanted, to the point of seriously thinking of rejecting him. It turns out that I can't think of anyone that I'd be more compatible with, not to mention that he's a singularly wonderful husband and father. To think that I almost passed him over because he was too old, too "uncool," too republican, or too white and large in build is actually a bit scary to me.

There are people here who've met my husband and me and probably would agree that despite "settling," we're extremely compatible and happy with each other.

 

[hypoc8]

Well put Snoozan. I couldn't have said it better. I don't think it's settling, I think common sense separates what is really important in a relationship and what is fantasy.

 

[vibratingfinger]

What I find interesting is that there are those who are trying to make her seem like less of a woman for her desires, while complaining that she is isn't being open-minded. Isn't that a bit of a contradiction?

This isn't really a comment on the OP since I don't really know her and I know I might get some heat over this but in my experience in real life and the dating world people who set extreme and rigid standard for themselves, their issues aren't with those from the opposite sex but mostly those from their own. That is not to say they don't get along with other men if they are a man, heck they might even exclusively fuck people from their own sex, but that they are in constant need to feeling superior to other men or women if they are females. This form of superiority complex is almost like a religion. They put ridiculous restraints on themselves, like not fucking asians, blacks, blondes, girls above a certain height or weight and so and so forth and they fucking subscribe to it like it's the divine word. As others have pointed out it's no longer a physical need when you discriminate against a penis that falls a tenth of an inch short of your standard. Like your ass or pussy can really tell the difference. It's mental. It's like taking a girl home and just before she comes in you put the balance in front of the door and insist on reading it yourself and when you find out she a pound and a half over your limit you tell her "I'm afraid you can't come in." Tragically ridiculous. I'm not much into psychoanalyzing but I suspect the real motive behind setting your standards so high and inflexible is feeling superior to those whose standards are lower and more variable. It's not really about making the men/women feel less of a man/woman, which I'm afraid many men/women feel nonetheless, it's about making HIM/HERSELF feel more of a man/woman because he/she really thinks his/her highER standards make him/her better. It's an imaginary status. That's when the queen in "size queen" becomes more important than the size.

 

[1kmb1]

rejected by a women ive never met lol

 

[wldhoney]

This isn't really a comment on the OP since I don't really know her and I know I might get some heat over this but in my experience in real life and the dating world people who set extreme and rigid standard for themselves, their issues aren't with those from the opposite sex but mostly those from their own. That is not to say they don't get along with other men if they are a man, heck they might even exclusively fuck people from their own sex, but that they are in constant need to feeling superior to other men or women if they are females. This form of superiority complex is almost like a religion. They put ridiculous restraints on themselves, like not fucking asians, blacks, blondes, girls above a certain height or weight and so and so forth and they fucking subscribe to it like it's the divine word. As others have pointed out it's no longer a physical need when you discriminate against a penis that falls a tenth of an inch short of your standard. Like your ass or pussy can really tell the difference. It's mental. It's like taking a girl home and just before she comes in you put the balance in front of the door and insist on reading it yourself and when you find out she a pound and a half over your limit you tell her "I'm afraid you can't come in." Tragically ridiculous. I'm not much into psychoanalyzing but I suspect the real motive behind setting your standards so high and inflexible is feeling superior to those whose standards are lower and more variable. It's not really about making the men/women feel less of a man/woman, which I'm afraid many men/women feel nonetheless, it's about making HIM/HERSELF feel more of a man/woman because he/she really thinks his/her highER standards make him/her better. It's an imaginary status. That's when the queen in "size queen" becomes more important than the size.

Again, it comes down to it being ridiculous to YOU. To her it is not, and by shaming her choices you do not fail to become close-minded yourself. It doesn't matter that you, or I, would not limit OUR choices. Who is to say that someone shouldn't or can't do so. You? Me? Is that not then forcing OUR idea of what is right on another?

To me, snoozan put it very well. Often we end up meeting and going into a relationship with someone we never thought we would be attracted to. When I was younger, I always dated darker men, perhaps do to being half American Indian. My husband, however, was a blonde, something everyone commented on. Normally, I would not have been immediately attracted to him, but the personality caught me.

In Deb's case, this is the internet. It's easy to state your preferences and stick to those who fit your criteria because you are not dealing with the other aspects of physical, as well as mental, attraction that come into play.

As I have stated in previous posts and threads, I am NOT a size queen, and I have disagreed with Deb and others who have stated they would discontinue dating someone who has a small penis. By then, you have actually met the person and they are more than just a big c***. Even so, it's still not my place to say they must.

In the case of size queens here on LPSG, they are stating that they are seeking a certain size before any other type of connection even enters the picture. It's no different then placing a personal ad. Or stating that you are only interested in someone who is Jewish. Or someone who does not have kids.

It's a personal preference. You have them, I have them, everyone has them in some form or another.

 

[OmahaBeef]

The answer is right there in the title: Obsession.

...OB

 

[vibratingfinger]

Again, it comes down to it being ridiculous to YOU. To her it is not, and by shaming her choices you do not fail to become close-minded yourself. It doesn't matter that you, or I, would not limit OUR choices. Who is to say that someone shouldn't or can't do so. You? Me? Is that not then forcing OUR idea of what is right on another?

I think you misread my post. I was addressing the points raised in the beginning of the thread. To me there is a big difference between someone who says "I like blue eyes that's my preference" and someone who says "I only like an exact shade of blue." So he takes out a flashlight and like an opthamologist inspects your iris only to inform you that upon further inspection your eyes aren't blue enough. Only if they had been a shade more blue. We all live by our choices. If you choose to exercise the flashlight option on a date, I cannot help but laugh. I don't necessarily think you should be ashamed of your choice but don't blame me for thinking that it's amusing. Likewise I find it amusing if somebody pulled out a tape measure when we are just about to have sex saying "this looks long enough but need to make sure." If there are women who only have sex with the smallest micro penises I would find that amusing as well(not lesbians). I personally like these kinds of people. The extremes and the outrageous make life more interesting. My main point wasn't this anyway. Whereas people with fairly normal expectations (I believe majority of size queens tend to like above average penis sizes and that expectation is normal) find extreme expectations amusing, people whose expectations are extreme do have a tendency to view their standards as "better." Reading your post I got the sense that you believed the opposite was true. No we don't believe our preferences are better because they are normal. But I think there are people out there who feel better about themselves because their preferences tend toward the extremes. It doesn't matter to me anyway that they have those preferences. Just don't take offense to me being amused when you take out the flashlight or the tape measure.

 

[B_Jennuine73]

I like big cocks, she likes big cocks, i'm sure everyone on here likes big cocks or why are you on a large penis site?
I am not as extreme as she is, but I do like a big cock.

I forget who insulted her and asked about wind in her vagina cause it's so big.

I think women who prefer big cocks are targeted. Somehow we're sluts or our pussies are so big (which is meant as an insult) that we can't feel anything average.

I think obsession over cock size is definitely something men worry about way more than women. Too many men put a sort of value of self worth that is directly related to cock size.

 

[Valeria82]

In a ‘life partner’ selection a man must also possess all of the other attributes important to me as a woman and person, intelligence, kindness,.. and that intangible ‘something’ that clicks, I would still walk away if he’s not huge.. Truth is, in reality being a HC Size Queen is a lonely existence (sexually speaking) Genuine horse-hung guys are very rare. Opinions vary on ‘how long is too long,’ and ‘what girth would you not attempt’ Blah blah! How does a HC Size Queen react to this?

I couldn't be so extreme, I prefer big cocks but I cannot just have sex because I can't find any.
...and anyway I would never refuse a 8"!

But I respect your opinion.:smile: