Has Political Correctness gone too far?

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Daverock said:
So can we describe you as Bi-appreciative then?

Yep..I appreciate both bodies.

I love my body and enjoy very much 'your' penetrative manhood...
 

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DC_DEEP said:
A quote from my deaf aunt: "I'm not hearing-impaired. I'm definitely NOT handicapped. I'm deaf."

This is a perfect example. She is probably very happy that she doesn't have to listen to all the bullshit involved in choosing the ideal term for it.

In most of these P.C. cases it isn't the designated group arguing for a better classification, it's everyone who wants to be seen as "sensitive" to their plight. I don't imagine someone in a wheelchair cares how you refer to their condition so long as you stay the hell off their ramp, out of their stall and out of their parking spaces so that they can go on about their business unhindered.

What pisses me off about P.C.ness, particularly in the instances I mentioned in my first post on this thread, is that folks who are outside of my particular "classification" feel that because I am of said "classification" I'm too weak to deal with the world as is, and so they need to find a way to soften it for me.

PFO to that. I've yet to faint away due to terminology.
 

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Another amusing example of people being afraid of political incorrectness.

At work a coworker(black) was having a discussion with two other coworkers(white) regarding the colour of his pants(taupe). He thought they were brown but the girls were killing themselves trying to find examples of what brown really looks like, taupe being more of a tan/grey. After about five minutes of listening to them dance around the obvious I took it upon myself to show him an example that he would have convenient every morning when choosing his wardrobe. I took his hand, held it in front of his face and told him, "this is brown". He and I had a good laugh, the other two were dead silent.

Did it really take another person of "enhanced pigmentation" to point this out?
 

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elf said:
If being "politically-correct" means being polite and non-offensive (e.g. calling people what they want to be called and not stereotyping others on the basis of their race, sexuality, gender etc) then I'm all for it.

If it means some humourless half-educated idiot correcting how others speak because it doesn't fit his or her world view then I'm a bit less enthusiastic.

Amen to that, elf. I don't much cotton to having anyone "correct" my thinking.
 

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stud_hunter said:
I agree. It seems like a lot of people like having something to be offended about because it makes them feel righteous and superior. I think we put way too much energy into controlling language and getting bogged down in whether we say "man" or "person." If it was a woman we'd say woman. If it's a man say man. It doesn't matter. Same goes for racial terms. White or Caucasian, black or African-American, Latino or Hispanic, Asian or Oriental, etc. I know there are political reasons why people prefer certain ways of saying things, but it seems we'd be better off fighting real prejudice instead of fighting these silly language wars.

Hallelujah sister.
 

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Gillette said:
In most of these P.C. cases it isn't the designated group arguing for a better classification, it's everyone who wants to be seen as "sensitive" to their plight. I don't imagine someone in a wheelchair cares how you refer to their condition so long as you stay the hell off their ramp, out of their stall and out of their parking spaces so that they can go on about their business unhindered....
That's precisely my point, Gillette. By the way, that particular quote from my aunt was many years ago, when I was in my teens. My deaf uncle and his wife lived in Seattle, and I lived in Little Rock, so we didn't see them often. I had used the word "deaf" on one occasion, and a "hearing" adult sternly corrected me and told me that the proper term was "hearing-impaired" and lectured me on how offensive the term "deaf" was. Then next time my deaf relatives visited, I used the "PC" term, and that's when she quickly corrected me. I guess I'm just a deafness-impaired melanin-impaired American-American.
 

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Stronzo said:
Here's the reverse of doing away with what some deem political correctness:

The Ugly American

(and this man thinks he's speaking English?:eek:)
Funny thing, Stronzo, if that were over-dubbed in French, and "quebecois" substituted for "American," and "francais" for "English" and "provence quebec" for "America", it would still be very apropos. Quebec actually does have language police, and a merchant can get in serious trouble if the signs in his window don't have the french version, in larger font, and positioned above, the english version.
 

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dongalong said:
The PC expression that is the most ridiculous in my opinion is the phrase "brown out" instead of "black out" WTF!!!!
How is turning all the lights out so everything is dark and therefore black, racist? and why choose brown of all colours?

I never understand why Americans of African descent prefer to be known as African Americans rather than "Americans".:confused:

Uh... a brown out and black out are not the same thing. A brown out describes power loss on a smaller scale than a black out. And not all of us want the label African American. I hate it. My father's family has been here for centuries. This is my country. On the other hand, only an idiot really cannot grasp why some blacks might want to be identified this way. I won't explain it to you because i like you, and don't think of you as an idiot.
 

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The difficulty in political correctness is that before you speak to someone, you have no idea what their preferred term is. While I do try not to be offensive to others based on categorisations, I have found myself doing it anyway, because what one person finds preferable, the next person may find highly offensive.

I use the terms "black" and "white" when I have cause to refer to someone's colour, as in "that white guy over there with the dreads" or "that black chick in the fancy shirt". Of course, there are plenty of white African-Americans, I trust we are all familiar with Apartheid? :rolleyes:

If I need to know someone's national origin, I ask them- I don't guess. As for people with physical challenges, I doubt they would want to be identified by them, so unless there's a specific reason why I need to do that, I just don't.
Maybe I'll get to the point where I can just say "the guy with the dreads" and "the girl in the pink shirt".

JustAsking made some very salient points (as usual) about how language influences thinking. I recall learning Spanish in school, my teacher told us that in order to learn Spanish, we had to learn to think Spanish. I think our use of language is far more powerful and influential on our society than we would like to believe. Remember how few people out there are really capable of even making distinctions between what they think and what they feel. Once you discard the people who can't do that, then see how many of the remaining group can decipher the difference between fact and belief. We are just NOT independant thinkers, by and large.
 

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I want to take my genealogical political correctness to a higher state. Instead of referring to me now by the continent of my greatgreatgreatgreatgreat grandparents (as in African-American or Asian-American), you are hereby instructed to refer to me by the supercontinent of origin of my evolutionary progenitors: I am a Pangaean-American. If you refer to me in any other way, I will kill you.
 

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DC_DEEP said:
I want to take my genealogical political correctness to a higher state. Instead of referring to me now by the continent of my greatgreatgreatgreatgreat grandparents (as in African-American or Asian-American), you are hereby instructed to refer to me by the supercontinent of origin of my evolutionary progenitors: I am a Pangaean-American. If you refer to me in any other way, I will kill you.

Haha, you should see the stupmed look on people's faces when they try to decide how to address ME!

I WON'T say "African American"- I have no idea what country someone's family is from by looking at them, I'm just not that clever. What if they turn out to be from Haiti, or England? "Dark-skinded" people come from other places besides just Africa, that term is offensive in it's assumptions that ALL black people are from Africa.
 

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Political correctness comes and goes in cycles as our society changes. In the Victorian Era, it was not PC to mention body parts, so we ended up with dark meat for chicken legs and white meat for chicken breasts. Once PC is taken to an extreme, it will self-destruct when good sense reappears. And for the record, I am balding, not follicley challenged.
 

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My mom was an "intrinsic tyrosine kinase activity-challenged" person. Hmm, that's not right. Perhaps "pancreatic β-cell differently-abled" person. Nah, now that I think about it, she was diabetic.
 

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COLJohn said:
Political correctness comes and goes in cycles as our society changes. In the Victorian Era, it was not PC to mention body parts, so we ended up with dark meat for chicken legs and white meat for chicken breasts. Once PC is taken to an extreme, it will self-destruct when good sense reappears. And for the record, I am balding, not follicley challenged.
You can't say those now, either. Too racial. Can't say thigh or breast, that's too sexual. Um. Uh. Chicken parts. How can we be politically correct in describing chicken parts? Oh shit, I'm sure there's a reason we can't say chicken (it might hurt the bird's feeling, because of the connotation of "fearful"), and I'm sure there's a reason we shouldn't say "parts." It perhaps sounds too "divisive."
 

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Gisella said:
I think the observation about the little green man being a person is just ridiculous..even a kid know the shape of the little person look like a male body..square..not nice as a woman or girl...

I do agree 100% with MB.

Correction..not MB but StudHunter.

And Mme Zora about ask directly how people want to be address.And I try to learn with them by asking how things work..but many are very defensive or I feel them defensive just by me asking, I'm think I tend to be insensitive in asking because I'm blant asking and expect to them when explaining dont get involved emotionaly in the situation, giving me answers how it is without take sides..But is my way of trying to understand things. (I had great conflicts about race and black issues question with my bf. bcause I thought i misunderstood by him and saw as an enemy, in his eyes trained to be black and etc in the US not taking in consideration Im not American and etc..)

As a foreigner I dont see black and white and I view things different in many issues.

And if I find out or being told I being rude to particular individual cultures I apologize bcause i'm ignorant both about their culture and just plain ignorant about things I havent learn yet.

Like stereotypes I may use and etc..